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Official Hurricane Irene Live OBS/Discussion Part III


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not sure it matters if we get the big winds....it's been on the wetter side past 30 days anyway....

Also the infrastructure here is not the greatest and im sure the high trop force gusts or hurricane force gusts will do the trick on the trees and power lines even if we get 2-4 inches of rain rather than 6-10 on LI

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Did anyone ever tell you that you're a huge buzz kill? LOL I like how much you like heat, but we've had our share already, time to move on to something even more rare-- like this. I hope you dont turn into the Noreaster27 of NJ :P

4 crappy August weekends in a row...Id rather have sun and beach weather...soon enough soon enough...September may you roast.

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that's usually the case-the rain ends up on the west side once the storm gets this far north-check out Gloria's rainfall-very sharp cutoff b/w epic rain and no big deal rains...

There are photos of Gloria taken from eastern LI and CT where you can see trees bending halfway to the ground yet the sun is breaking through the clouds. I think LGA had 7 inches in Gloria and Islip or somewhere near there only about 1-2.

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There are photos of Gloria taken from eastern LI and CT where you can see trees bending halfway to the ground yet the sun is breaking through the clouds. I think LGA had 7 inches in Gloria and Islip or somewhere near there only about 1-2.

LGA had 3.9 inches I believe.

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There are photos of Gloria taken from eastern LI and CT where you can see trees bending halfway to the ground yet the sun is breaking through the clouds. I think LGA had 7 inches in Gloria and Islip or somewhere near there only about 1-2.

What are your thoughts on the storms effect on us now as far as winds,surge goes.I believe that it is equal to DEC 1992 if not a bit worse.

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Most of Gloria's heaviest rains were well west of the area<a href='http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Gloria_rainfall.gif' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='external'><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Gloria_rainfall.gif/502px-Gloria_rainfall.gif" /></a>

Same result with this storm.3 inches for NYC with some areas perhaps 4 inches.West of us is going to be the jackpot.

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just incase anybody was thinking that the city was going to escape the rain, I hope everyone can see that the eastern side of Irene is filling in, and the moisture to the west will likely be wrapping around the eastern side, since the system is obviously closed off

Already 12"+ amounts estimated where its still got several hours to go

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=akq&product=NTP&overlay=11101111&loop=no

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Gloria's rainfall would seem to indicate you may be right. She was moving a bit faster so I do think most places get more rain, but the 6"+ amounts might end up in NW & Central NJ back into PA and upstate.

Same result with this storm.3 inches for NYC with some areas perhaps 4 inches.West of us is going to be the jackpot.

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What are your thoughts on the storms effect on us now as far as winds,surge goes.I believe that it is equal to DEC 1992 if not a bit worse.

I don't know what to think as far as surge goes. I have to trust the predictions on that from NHC. Obviously Raritan Bay, W LI Sound will be the worst and central LI's north shore and the inner bays of the south shore would generally fare the best...lower NY will depend alot on the exact track and thats still uncertain, anything from over New Brunswick to the Nassau/Suffolk border is still possible. Remember with Ivan nobody knew Mobile's fate til the last second when the system jogged to the right of the bay. I don't envision any changes in the winds, 35-45 with gusts to 60 and someone will definitely see 65-70 somewhere. The airport forecast for JFK has gusts to 84 mph for 3 hours, I simply cannot envision that happening given Elizabeth City has only gusted to 71 mph right in the storm's eyewall and some form of weakening is likely in the speeds. Whoever gets into the region near that obvious storm center has the best chance of seeing gusts to near 70 mph.

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Upton new hurricane warning say 76%chance of tropical storm conditions and 10 of hurricane but they are saying under it that winds will gust to hurricane force at 85mph, what's it mean sorta makes no sense? Saying 10% then hurricane force under it

sustained vs gust is the reason.

50-70 mph wind sustained are tropical storm conditions.

85 mph wind gusts are hurricane force gusts.

4-8 feet surge is a CAT 2 surge.

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I don't know what to think as far as surge goes. I have to trust the predictions on that from NHC. Obviously Raritan Bay, W LI Sound will be the worst and central LI's north shore and the inner bays of the south shore would generally fare the best...lower NY will depend alot on the exact track and thats still uncertain, anything from over New Brunswick to the Nassau/Suffolk border is still possible. Remember with Ivan nobody knew Mobile's fate til the last second when the system jogged to the right of the bay. I don't envision any changes in the winds, 35-45 with gusts to 60 and someone will definitely see 65-70 somewhere. The airport forecast for JFK has gusts to 84 mph for 3 hours, I simply cannot envision that happening given Elizabeth City has only gusted to 71 mph right in the storm's eyewall and some form of weakening is likely in the speeds. Whoever gets into the region near that obvious storm center has the best chance of seeing gusts to near 70 mph.

You still expecting a weak tropical storm here..35-45 mph..wow..is this for the whole area?

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<b></b>I don't know what to think as far as surge goes.  I have to trust the predictions on that from NHC.  Obviously Raritan Bay, W LI Sound will be the worst and central LI's north shore and the inner bays of the south shore would generally fare the best...lower NY will depend alot on the exact track and thats still uncertain, anything from over New Brunswick to the Nassau/Suffolk border is still possible.  Remember with Ivan nobody knew Mobile's fate til the last second when the system jogged to the right of the bay.  I don't envision any changes in the winds, 35-45 with gusts to 60 and someone will definitely see 65-70 somewhere.  The airport forecast for JFK has gusts to 84 mph for 3 hours, I simply cannot envision that happening given Elizabeth City has only gusted to 71 mph right in the storm's eyewall and some form of weakening is likely in the speeds.  Whoever gets into the region near that obvious storm center has the best chance of seeing gusts to near 70 mph.<b></b>
<b></b><b></b><b></b>I believe places like SOuthern Brooklyn by Coney Island all the way East to Jones beach are going to have a flooding surge with perhaps waves breaking over the boardwalk by Long beach.LOng Island Sound areas will have flooding by the Bayside marina which runs alongside the Cross island parkway in Queens,the Flushing river.(THat flooded over during Gloria as her eye passed that latitude)and Northern Nassau in places like bayville.
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18z name goes into jersey up into and over nyc, west of euro. Srefs are doing the same thing.

Does bring ths heavy rain in but not for a while. Essentially we have some time to rest before things go downhill quick after midnight tonight.

How strong? Looks like the GFS and Euro have switched places lol.

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