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Hurricane Irene - Discussion Part IV


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I understand but there is a thread dedicated to that

I agree maybe we can maybe cut back on some of the IMBY damage concerns in this thread. But I don't think there's any reason I should not be able to make a post that I'm relieved if things start looking less favorable for big damage just because its against the wishcasts of others.

You're being over-dramatic with your house. Bob was a bona fide hurricane with winds up to and over 100 MPH across extreme SouthEast New England yet structual damage was minor. This aint Bob.

I mentioned last night...my fear is not directly from the winds...but rather the winds taking out a tree that in turn ends up on top of my house. I don't live there anymore...trying to sell the damn thing...and don't really have time or money for cleanup. Forgive me for being a bit nervous.

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Barry Burbank is really downplaying the hurricane (Tropical Storm). I just heard him on WBZ radio. I don't know who he is referring too but he talked about the fact that people are wrong that are calling this one of the worst storms to hit New England (maybe Weather Channel). Also said this won't be as bad as Bob was. We shall see.

A tropical storm hit is now my forcast, Kinda like floyd but with a more in land type track. I still think this will make a huge mess, trees powerlines, roof damage, floods , storm surge, a tornado or two. But this wont be a life threating storm if you take cover. Unlike some storms that are so bad no matter what you could die.

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As much as I'm not rooting for this:

Cat 1 by the time it makes landfall in NC, TD by the time it reaches latitude of southern NJ...

The IR images of current vs. even just 4 hours ago show a pretty dramatic change: this is really struggling.

Once its structural integrity is lost, the collapse could accelerate, even with favorable SSTs.

I really hope I'm wrong and I'm not trying to piss people off.

As I said before, the next few hours are critical.

So you forecast an extreme weakening scenario.

nhc doesn't seem to totally dismiss td or dissapated either, but seems unlikely to me

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Neither WV or radar are good at diagnosing dry air. I honestly think dry air is a bit overplayed. There's some...and the ill timed ERC along with modest WSW shear allowed it to penetrate the core. However, I think it's more of a structure issue than a dry air issue. WV is too weighted toward the upper levels to determine how dry the air is...PWAT is a much better measure.

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As much as I'm not rooting for this:

Cat 1 by the time it makes landfall in NC, TD by the time it reaches latitude of southern NJ...

The IR images of current vs. even just 4 hours ago show a pretty dramatic change: this is really struggling.

Once its structural integrity is lost, the collapse could accelerate, even with favorable SSTs.

I really hope I'm wrong and I'm not trying to piss people off.

As I said before, the next few hours are critical.

Easily the worst post of the year on the board. Congrats

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A tropical storm hit is now my forcast, Kinda like floyd but with a more in land type track. I still think this will make a huge mess, trees powerlines, roof damage, floods , storm surge, a tornado or two. But this wont be a life threating storm if you take cover. Unlike some storms that are so bad no matter what you could die.

It can get crazy inland and not be life threatening really if you take cover either. The danger is from flooding, and this storm appears to have potential in that regard.

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Irene has 30 hours of favorable environmental conditions before it reaches the north wall of the GS...we'll see if it is can restrengthen or at least maintain.

Going to try pretty hard I think to restrengthen.

Meanwhile it's about fully wrapped the dry air that worked in a few hours ago, looks to be drawn right into the eye now.

http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/satellite/displaySat.php?region=CLT&itype=vis&size=large&endDate=20110826&endTime=-1&duration=6

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