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Hurricane Irene


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The uppel level features in the west and near canada are vital for Irene's path, it seems like they're weakening, allowing irene to not go as far east.

yes, and what that is doing is allowing the atlantic ridge to build back west and stronger and hold the northern trajectory of the storm much, much tighter.. if you look at the 500 mb progs, look at how the height fields over the atlantic build dramatically to the west.

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Except that its over land when it comes up to NYC as it makes landfall at the southern most part of NJ. IThe surge could be an issue as well as some weak tornados but not sure about the winds once it ges up here because of the fact its over land while it climbs NJ.

I know they are out there, but where can you find maps on what sort of surge a cat 1 or cat 2 cane could produce in NYC?

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Wow...what a monster...Dover, Wilmington, Atlantic City, Norfolk, OBX, Philly, all of NJ and the NYC Metro area just get destroyed on this run. This isn't something you see every day......

God that Euro track is scary...look at the windfield completely to the NE of center...nyc, LI would be in big trouble becase that is where the winds would be, not on the western side. And as somebody mentioned earlier, those winds surging into long island would be coming off the water...unlike the western side of the storm...also, carl parker on TWC isnt bad, he mentions the models as they come in.

He also mentioned the tornado threat for long island...this is concerning

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Keep in mind that right now this is the only global and as far as I know only reliable model showing this type of solution.

The gfs is also trending west and a couple of the reliable tropical models also had a west solution. They are all modeling that kicker to weaken now. This reminds me of boxing day modeling machinations-- all we need now is a model assimilation "error" LOL

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The gfs is also trending west and a couple of the reliable tropical models also had a west solution. They are all modeling that kicker to weaken now. This reminds me of boxing day modeling machinations-- all we need now is a model assimilation "error" LOL

LOL I was just about to say it feels like it's December 24th right now, not Aug 24th.

Technically, we can say that the Euro is a 'HECS' haha

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Not to mention that if the storm does come on shore in NJ or hugs the coast it be moving northward at a pretty quick pace so winds would still make it up to NYC before major weakening took place...maybe not hurricane force but certainly high end TS winds with higher gusts. Again this is assuming this hit exactly as the Euro shows which at this stage would seem unlikely, though certainly a viable option

God that Euro track is scary...look at the windfield completely to the NE of center...nyc, LI would be in big trouble becase that is where the winds would be, not on the western side. And as somebody mentioned earlier, those winds surging into long island would be coming off the water...unlike the western side of the storm...also, carl parker on TWC isnt bad, he mentions the models as they come in.

He also mentioned the tornado threat for long island...this is concerning

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Looks like they trended west some.

yes, i would agree with that. If you take the eastern and wester outliers out, you get the storm pretty much into or just right of nyc. Even if it did go just to the right you are still looking at hours of substantial waves and water influx into NYC itself before a wind shiftt. Also, Western LI sound would have serious serious serious problems.

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12z euro breaks down after hour 108. It has hurricane force winds to mid Coastal Jersey and then storm rapidly loses strength and NYC and LI never get past weak Tropical storm winds.

And also, very little rain for NYC and LI.

Euro is a big hit for Southern to mid Coastal Jersey.

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Not to mention that if the storm does come on shore in NJ or hugs the coast it be moving northward at a pretty quick pace so winds would still make it up to NYC before major weakening took place...maybe not hurricane force but certainly high end TS winds with higher gusts. Again this is assuming this hit exactly as the Euro shows which at this stage would seem unlikely, though certainly a viable option

If the Euro is correct, NYC and vicinity would almost definitely experience hurricane force gusts.

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12z euro breaks down after hour 108. It has hurricane force winds to mid Coastal Jersey and then storm rapidly loses strength and NYC and LI never get past weak Tropical storm winds.

And also, very little rain for NYC and LI.

Euro is a big hit for Southern to mid Coastal Jersey.

If the Euro is correct, NYC and vicinity would almost definitely experience hurricane force gusts.

The model data has the winds rapidly deteriorating and only tropical force winds into NYC and LI.

Hurricane force winds are contained to Southern Jersey and just past Atlantic City.

Regardless, a slight shift east of the 12z euro, would bring hurricane force winds to many more people.

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Right, if it doesn't make landfall but instead hugs the coast it would be more similar to Gloria only shifted 50 miles to the west. Would be worst case for NYC and areas just to the east.

The model data has the winds rapidly deteriorating and only tropical force winds into NYC and LI.

Hurricane force winds are contained to Southern Jersey and just past Atlantic City.

Regardless, a slight shift east of the 12z euro, would bring hurricane to more people.

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As I said before, if this, or something just to the right of this were to happen, winds are going to be the LAST thing on people's minds. You are essentially looking at 3 high tide cyles with high astronomical tides and a storm which has been gathering surge and waves for days and days. All the LI boys, the city boys and the western sound boys are gonna be in huge trouble.

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yes, i would agree with that. If you take the eastern and wester outliers out, you get the storm pretty much into or just right of nyc. Even if it did go just to the right you are still looking at hours of substantial waves and water influx into NYC itself before a wind shiftt. Also, Western LI sound would have serious serious serious problems.

I wouldn't say that. Most of those 18z tropical models take it close to eastern LI.

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