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I have a GPS-based app that give you USGS elevation for your location.

I do not believe that Sayville reading-- sounds waaaay too high.

It probably is.... the highest reliable number is the 71 mph at Moriches.

Goldberg thinks this is the first hurricane since 1821 to make landfall in Manhattan... he said the center fix is in Raritan Bay.

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It probably is.... the highest reliable number is the 71 mph at Moriches.

Goldberg thinks this is the first hurricane since 1821 to make landfall in Manhattan... he said the center fix is in Raritan Bay.

You guys have had a hell of a storm! I still have a lot of family on the NJ Shore and getting reports from them and here has been tons of fun!

A-L-E-X, do you really thing this was a hurricane? I have my doubts since it popped back over the water late yesterday. I think re-analysis and official records for the books will not classify Irene as a cane post NC landfall.

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It probably is.... the highest reliable number is the 71 mph at Moriches.

Goldberg thinks this is the first hurricane since 1821 to make landfall in Manhattan... he said the center fix is in Raritan Bay.

Meh... I won't be surprised in the post analysis if this is downgraded back to a tropical storm. This system is already undergoing extra-tropical transition and the process will likely be complete in the next 12 hours.

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Meh... I won't be surprised in the post analysis if this is downgraded back to a tropical storm. This system is already undergoing extra-tropical transition and the process will likely be complete in the next 12 hours.

Phil, how long does post analysis take? We didn't even have hurricane force gusts anywhere in this area as far as I know.

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You guys have had a hell of a storm! I still have a lot of family on the NJ Shore and getting reports from them and here has been tons of fun!

A-L-E-X, do you really thing this was a hurricane? I have my doubts since it popped back over the water late yesterday. I think re-analysis and official records for the books will not classify Irene as a cane post NC landfall.

No lol.... it had too many ET characteristics, with the highest winds well away from the center. But it was a fun hybrid storm.

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LOL they already downgraded it.... according to Goldberg it made landfall on Coney Island as a 65mph tropical storm.

Wow Bill Evans is trying to spin it..... he said the SS scale was developed for Miami and does not work in the northeast because of the "right angle" topography and that the pressure should be the judge of it's true strength. Goldberg backed him up.

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We're in Island Park-- just N of Long Beach. Extensive tidal flooding of the entire area, with many main roads inundated and impassible.

In fact, is started to surround the car and we had to retreat.

970.5 mb, windy, light drizzle in Island Park.

Are you shocked by what you see there, Josh?

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No lol.... it had too many ET characteristics, with the highest winds well away from the center. But it was a fun hybrid storm.

No drought worries for you guys for a long time lol. My father in Toms River NJ told me this morning that his highest gust was near 60 late last night. I have not looked at offical obs for Ocean County yet though. He never lost power which is a good thing.

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Ugh, such a bummer that it didn't officially make it to NY as a hurricane. :lol:

Amazing that a 55-kt tropical storm could inundate this place so badly. Imagine if a bona-fide Cat 2 hit this place!

I'm officially done with Irene. Keith and I are headed back to his place to take hot showers and chill.

You could always helicopter yourself into the Catskills or Adirondacks to catch some remnant mud slide action tongue.gif

BTW, hope ya didn't get offended with my Gloria video earlier in this thread smile.gif

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We're in Island Park-- just N of Long Beach. Extensive tidal flooding of the entire area, with many main roads inundated and impassible.

In fact, is started to surround the car and we had to retreat.

970.5 mb, windy, light drizzle in Island Park.

That's where I was! So much flooding. We got to Peter's Clam Bar on Long Beach Road, but we couldn't make it any further south that that. There was so much flooding from the bay nearby.

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No drought worries for you guys for a long time lol. My father in Toms River NJ told me this morning that his highest gust was near 60 late last night. I have not looked at offical obs for Ocean County yet though. He never lost power which is a good thing.

It was actually still a hurricane in Ocean County, the first hurricane landfall in NJ since 1903. This may be changed upon post analysis though. Highest gusts down there were 69 mph

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Ugh, such a bummer that it didn't officially make it to NY as a hurricane. :lol:

Amazing that a 55-kt tropical storm could inundate this place so badly. Imagine if a bona-fide Cat 2 hit this place!

I'm officially done with Irene. Keith and I are headed back to his place to take hot showers and chill.

Well it did hit New Jersey as a hurricane, which happened last in 1903. 108 years.

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Ugh, such a bummer that it didn't officially make it to NY as a hurricane. :lol:

Amazing that a 55-kt tropical storm could inundate this place so badly. Imagine if a bona-fide Cat 2 hit this place!

I'm officially done with Irene. Keith and I are headed back to his place to take hot showers and chill.

Gee aren't you glad you listen to Adam's advise to go to NC arrowheadsmiley.pngguitar.gif

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Well it did hit New Jersey as a hurricane, which happened last in 1903. 108 years.

eh, we will see. My father and mother are from Manchester, my brother is in Toms River, my oldest son is in Toms River, two of my friends are in Forked River and Manahawkin and none thought this was a cane. Post analysis will tell the story. I am not rooting against it laugh.gif fyi.

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Winds, Pressure and rtainfall from NWS Morehead

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=MHX&product=pns&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1&highlight=off

000

NOUS42 KMHX 290037 CCA

PNSMHX

NCZ029-044>047-079>081-090>095-098-103-104-290100-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEWPORT/MOREHEAD CITY NC

612 PM EDT SUN AUG 28 2011

...PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING HURRICANE IRENE.

APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE

OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS...COCORAHS OBSERVERS AND MEDIA FOR

THESE REPORTS. THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT

WEATHER.GOV/NEWPORT/

***********************PEAK WIND GUST***********************

LOCATION MAX WIND TIME/DATE COMMENTS

GUST OF

MPH MEASUREMENT

NORTH CAROLINA

...BEAUFORT COUNTY...

WASHINGTON 45 435 AM 8/27 KOCW-DOWN AT 455 AM (8/27)

AURORA 90 845 AM 8/27 PCS PHOSPHATE

...CARTERET COUNTY...

CEDAR ISLAND 115 750 AM 8/27 CEDAR ISLAND FERRY TERMINAL

BEAUFORT 70 1003 AM 8/27 KMRH-DOWN AT 1003 AM(8/27)

FORT MACON 92 1110 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW

CAPE LOOKOUT 78 400 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW

MOREHEAD CITY 78 329 AM 8/27 MHC POLICE DEPT

MOREHEAD CITY 70 1130 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 1103 AM(8/27)

NEWPORT 64 849 AM 8/27 NWS NEWPORT

STACY 93 408 AM 8/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

BEAUFORT 77 641 AM 8/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

NEWPORT 74 1015 AM 8/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

BEAUFORT 76 1101 AM 8/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

ATLANTIC BEACH 101 1035 AM 8/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

...CRAVEN COUNTY...

CHERRY POINT 75 1154 PM 8/27 KNKT

NEUSE RIVER 59 125 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 135 AM (8/27)

NEW BERN 74 751 AM 8/27 KEWN-DOWN AT 849 AM (8/27)

...DARE COUNTY...

MANTEO 74 755 AM 8/27 KMQI

FRISCO WOODS 76 610 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 1010 PM(8/28)

HATTERAS HIGH 68 710 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 1020 PM(8/27)

HATTERAS 88 851 AM 8/27 KHSE

BUXTON 79 930 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 920 PM (8/2

AVON (OCEAN SIDE) 77 725 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 903 AM (8/26)

AVON (SOUND SIDE) 67 635 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 836 AM (8/27)

SALVO 69 755 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW

PAMLICO SOUND 58 1050 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 1130 PM(8/26)

REAL SLICK 77 1020 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 654 PM (8/27)

WAVES 63 725 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 921 AM (8/27)

OREGON INLET 77 210 PM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 618 PM (8/27)

MANTEO 74 435 PM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 537 PM (8/27)

MANTEO CSWY 68 1015 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 537 PM (8/27)

JOCKEYS RIDGE 69 400 PM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 646 PM (8/27)

PEA ISLAND 83 950 AM 8/27 KPEI

DUCK 85 1036 AM 8/27 DUCK COE PIER

...DUPLIN COUNTY...

2 N KENANSVILLE 58 915 AM 8/27 KDPL

...HYDE COUNTY...

OCRACOKE 69 439 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 616 AM (8/27)

SWANQUARTER 74 250 PM 8/27 KSWQ-DOWN AT 420 PM (8/27)

...JONES COUNTY...

WYSE FORKS 70 1131 AM 8/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

...LENOIR COUNTY...

KINSTON 56 615 AM 8/27 KISO-DOWN AT 655 AM (8/27)

...ONSLOW COUNTY...

JACKSONVILLE 50 355 AM 8/27 KOAJ-DOWN AT 415 AM (8/27)

NEW RIVER 61 356 AM 8/27 KNCA-DOWN AT 429 AM (8/27)

JACKSONVILLE 94 615 AM 8/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

...PITT COUNTY...

GREENVILLE 64 835 AM 8/27 KPGV

GREENVILLE 73 700 AM 8/27 PITT EOC

...TYRRELL COUNTY...

ALLIGATOR BRIDGE 71 1050 AM 8/27 WEATHERFLOW-DOWN AT 328 PM (8/27)

...NDBC BUOY...

DUCK PIER 79 512 PM 8/27 DUKN7

OREGON INLET MARINA 80 400 PM 8/27

HATTERAS 79 536 AM 8/27

CAPE LOOKOUT 78 400 AM 8/27 CLKN7

BEAUFORT 67 612 AM 8/27 BFTN7

41036 69 820 AM 8/27

***********************BAROMETRIC PRESSURE***********************

LOCATION LOWEST PRESSURE DATE/ COMMENTS

INCHES TIME

HATTERAS 28.65 8/27 135 PM KHSE

BEAUFORT 28.11 8/27 856 AM KMRH

CHERRY POINT 28.18 8/27 854 AM KNKT

GREENVILLE 28.84 8/27 1235 PM KPGV

...NDBC BUOYS...

41036 28.25 8/27 620 AM

44014 29.20 8/27 1150 AM

CLKN7 28.15 8/27 800 AM

ORIN7 28.80 8/27 1218 PM

*******************STORM TOTAL RAINFALL REPORTS***********************

LOCATION TOTAL PRECIP COMMENTS

...BEAUFORT...

BUNYAN 15.66 RAWS - BNYN7

WASHINGTON 13.11 HYDRO - TRAN7

...CARTERET COUNTY...

CROATAN FOREST 11.13 RAWS - NPTN7

NEWPORT 10.41 WFO MHX

NEWPORT 9.41 NEWPORT 0.2 SW

MOREHEAD CITY 8.11 MOREHEAD CITY 6.0 WNW

NEWPORT 7.81 NEWPORT 2.0 WSW

BEAUFORT 7.00 BEAUFORT 5.3 N

CEDAR ISLAND 6.68 RAWS - TS788

MOREHEAD CITY 6.65 MOREHEAD CITY 0.6 NW

BEAUFORT 6.31 ASOS - KMRH

...CRAVEN COUNTY...

NEW BERN 14.79 NEW BERN 1.3 NNE

NEW BERN 12.86 RAWS - NBRN7

HAVELOCK 10.70 HAVELOCK 1.4 SW

NEW BERN 7.79 ASOS - KEWN

TRENT WOODS 10.94 TRENT WOODS 1.3 SSE

PERRYTOWN 5.04 COOP - PYTN7 (8/27)

...DARE COUNTY...

DARE BOMB RANGE 7.57 RAWS - STCN7

HATTERAS 6.77 ASOS - KHSE

KILL DEVIL HILLS 2.43 KILL DEVIL HILLS 0.9 WNW

...DUPLIN COUNTY...

BEAULAVILLE 9.61 BEAULAVILLE 0.5 NE

MOUNT OLIVE 5.68 COOP - MTON7

MOUNT OLIVE 4.66 MOUNT OLIVE 2.4 SW

...HYDE COUNTY...

FAIRFIELD 7.61 RAWS - TS161

OCRACOKE 2.72 COOP - OCRN7 (8/27)

...LENOIR COUNTY...

KINSTON 9.53 KINSTON 3.7 WNW

...MARTIN COUNTY...

WILLIAMSTON 14.27 WILLIAMSTON 0.9 SSW

...ONSLOW COUNTY...

JACKSONVILLE 11.70 JACKSONVILLE 5.5 WSW

SWANSBORO 9.76 SWANSBORO 3.3 NW

CAMP LEJUENE 9.57 HYDRO - CLJN7

HUBERT 9.36 HUBERT 4.3 SE

HUBERT 9.12 HUBERT 4.9 SE

RICHLANDS 8.87 RICHLANDS 2.8 SSE

JACKSONVILLE 8.36 JACKSONVILLE 1.7 W

HOFMANN FOREST 7.95 RAWS - HFMN7

JACKSONVILLE 6.80 COOP - JEON7

...PAMLICO COUNTY...

BAYBORO 15.74 COOP - BAYN7

...PITT COUNTY...

GRIFTON 12.69 HYDRO - GRTN7

GREENVILLE 12.32 GREENVILLE 7.1 SSE

GREENVILLE 11.64 COOP - GREN7

GREENVILLE 10.57 GREENVILLE 8.2 SSE

GREENVILLE 10.50 HYDRO - PGVN7

GREENVILLE 10.25 GREENVILLE 1.1 S

WINTERVILLE 9.74 WINTERVILLE 3.5 W

GREENVILLE 8.69 GREENVILLE 1.4 SE

GREENVILLE 7.23 AWOS - KPGV

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...

POCOSIN LAKES 11.20 HYDRO - POCN7

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CQD/BM/WR/DAG/LEP/SJ

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Ugh, such a bummer that it didn't officially make it to NY as a hurricane. :lol:

Amazing that a 55-kt tropical storm could inundate this place so badly. Imagine if a bona-fide Cat 2 hit this place!

I'm officially done with Irene. Keith and I are headed back to his place to take hot showers and chill.

I didn't even get my site record for lowest pressure..... missed by less than one 1 mb! The record of 967.8 mb from April 2007 still stands..... I only got down to 968.5 mb. But we all did set all time monthly rainfall records!

Supposedly, there was a 10.5 ft surge somewhere on the CT coast, but it was 7 ft at Long Beach

0800 AM STORM SURGE LONG BEACH 40.59N 73.67W 08/28/2011 NASSAU NY NWS EMPLOYEE STORM SURGE ESTIMATED TO EASILY BE 7FT MSL HERE AND ALSO AT LIDO BEACH. FOR LONG BEACH...CARS PARKED NEAR THE BOARDWALK HAD WATER OVER THEIR ROOFS.

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Hey, guys! I'm in NYC after spending a day on the Long Island.

The overall impact on W Long Island was fairly light-- basically, downed trees here and there. Except for houses hit by falling trees, I saw no wind damage to structures-- not even missing shingles. This leads me to believe that winds on W Long Island weren't terribly strong-- perhaps low-end TS winds over most of the area. There were plenty of power outages, however: even today, I would say roughly 1/3 to even 1/2 of the area was still without electricity, and the lack of functioning lights at some intersections snarled traffic.

Re: the storm surge... Late Sunday afternoon, after the cyclone had passed, we drove back down to Island Park. The surge had receded by that point, and the aftermath was not as noticeable as I would have expected. From there, we drove down into Long Beach-- which was inaccessible during the storm-- to try and piece together what had happened there. For those who aren't familiar, Long Beach is a collection of modest cottages and a few main business drags on a barrier island just a couple of feet above sea level. Needless to say, it's highly vulnerable. By the time we got there, it was a sunny, cool afternoon-- still very, very windy.

From what we could gather-- looking at watermarks and debris traces-- surge had washed over the beach and onto the streets in a couple of places. One of the main breaches occurred very close to St. Ignatius Martyr Church, on W Broadway at Grand. (Strange coincidence: my chase partner, Keith, had been to the church for his aunt's funeral only days before.) The water did not wash over the elevated boardwalk-- rather, it washed underneath, breaking the wooden barrier, submerging cars parked nearby, and washing across W Broadway and onto the church property. A nasty, jiggly brown foam coated much of the street and sidewalks. We noticed a few other small breaches, mud-covered streets, debris lines, and flooded basements, and we talked with one resident near the N shore of the island who had a foot or two of water in his home-- he said others on his street had similar flooding. But overall, Long Beach seems to have escaped widespread destruction-- and, in fact, the impact was less than what I expected based on some of the reports I'd been hearing Re: the whole town being submerged. (If it was submerged, it was only a foot or two.)

I'll have some final thoughts Re: this chase tomorrow-- but tonight I just wanted to share my assessment of Irene's Long Island impact.

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Josh, according to the NWS, the surge in Long Beach was 7 feet.

0800 AM STORM SURGE LONG BEACH 40.59N 73.67W 08/28/2011 NASSAU NY NWS EMPLOYEE STORM SURGE ESTIMATED TO EASILY BE 7FT MSL HERE AND ALSO AT LIDO BEACH. FOR LONG BEACH...CARS PARKED NEAR THE BOARDWALK HAD WATER OVER THEIR ROOFS.

There was also a report of the town of Bellmore being under 4 feet of water!

There was a sizable amount of tree loss, we had two F0 tornadoes and a microburst.

EF0 Tornado Suffolk..... winds 75 mph path width 1/8th mile path length 4 miles

EF0 Tornado Queens.... winds 85 mph path width 1/8th mile path length 1 mile

Microburst Suffolk..... winds 90 mph path width 1/2 mile path length 2 miles

000NOUS41 KOKX 292200 CCAPNSOKXCTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-310000-PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY555 PM EDT MON AUG 29 2011...TWO WEAK EF0 TORNADOES AND A CONFIRMED MICROBURST...BASED ON DAMAGE REPORTS FROM NWS SURVEYS, SPOTTERS, MEDIA, EMERGENCYMANAGEMENT, AND RADAR DATA, IT APPEARS TWO WEAK TORNADOES TOUCHEDDOWN...ONE BRIEFLY IN QUEENS AND THE OTHER IN SUFFOLK COUNTY....EF0 IN QUEENS COUNTY...LOCATION...QUEENS...CUNNINGHAM PARKDATE...AUGUST 28, 2011ESTIMATED TIME...400 AM EDT TO 401 AM EDTMAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF0ESTIMATED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...85 MPHMAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...ONE EIGHTH OF A MILEPATH LENGTH...1 MILEBEGINNING LAT/LON...40.73N/73.76WENDING LAT/LON...40.74/73.77W*FATALITIES...0*INJURIES...0*THIS INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TOCHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENTS AND PUBLICATION IN NWSSTORM DATA.&&...EF0 IN SUFFOLK COUNTY...LOCATION...BABYLON/WEST ISLIP AREA TO WYANDANCH/DEER PARK AREADATE...AUGUST 28, 2011ESTIMATED TIME...450 AM EDT TO 454 AM EDTMAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF0ESTIMATED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...75 MPHMAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...ONE EIGHTH OF A MILEPATH LENGTH...4 MI WITH INTERMITTENT TOUCHDOWNSBEGINNING LAT/LON...40.70N/73.32WENDING LAT/LON...40.75N/73.35*FATALITIES...0*INJURIES...0*THIS INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TOCHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENTS AND PUBLICATION IN NWSSTORM DATA.&&...INTENSE MICROBURST SUFFOLK COUNTY...LOCATION...OAKDALE TO SAYVILLEDATE...AUGUST 28, 2011ESTIMATED TIME...430 AM EDTESTIMATED WIND GUST...90 MPHMAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...1/2 OF A MILEPATH LENGTH...2 MILESBEGINNING LAT/LON...40.73N/73.14WENDING LAT/LON...40.75N/73.09W*FATALITIES...0*INJURIES...0*THIS INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TOCHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENTS AND PUBLICATION IN NWSSTORM DATA.&&...SUMMARY...OUTER CONVECTIVE BANDS MOVED ACROSS LONG ISLAND AND SOUTHEAST NEWYORK AHEAD OF HURRICANE IRENE. EMBEDDED WITHIN SOME OF THESE BANDSWERE TORNADO PRODUCING STORMS. RADAR INDICATED HOOK ECHOES ANDROTATION WITH THESE STORMS WHICH ONLY LASTED BRIEFLY. THE STORMSWERE STRONGEST OVER THE OCEAN AND QUICKLY WEAKENED AS THEY MOVEDONSHORE. SEVERAL REPORTS OF WEAK TORNADOES AND DAMAGE WERE RECEIVEDFROM THE FRESH MEADOWS/CUNNINGHAM PARK AREAS AS WELL AS THE BABYLONAREA. AN INTENSE MICROBURST ALSO MOVED ONSHORE WITH A SHORTCONVECTIVE BAND ALONG THE SOUTH CENTRAL LONG ISLAND SHORE FROMOAKDALE TO SAYVILLE SHEARING TOPS OFF OF TREES AND ALSO TAKING MANYTREES AND POWERLINES DOWN.$

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Hey, Alex!

Thanks for the interesting data and reports. Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying the cyclone had no impact-- I just don't think it was that heavy.

Weird Re: those tornadoes. My partner on this chase, Keith, actually lives in Deer Park (in the Town of Babylon) and we drove into Wyandanch. There are some downed trees in the area, but I didn't see anything that suggested a tornado moved through. The effects must have been quite localized.

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There was also a great deal of flooding in Huntington, when WABC was covering that area, you could see water at least half way up cars and people having to be water rescued.

What part of Huntington? I spent today in downtown Huntington and all was hunky-dory. That having been said, I didn't actually go down to the Harbor.

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Hey, Alex!

Thanks for the interesting data and reports. Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying the cyclone had no impact-- I just don't think it was that heavy.

Weird Re: those tornadoes. My partner on this chase, Keith, actually lives in Deer Park (in the Township of Babylon) and we drove into Wyandanch. There are some downed trees in the area, but I didn't see anything that suggested a tornado moved through. The effects must have been quite localized.

Yes, they were.... it was really weird.... there was a lot of tree damage in some towns and in other towns there was nary a branch down. Not anything "widespread" like one would expect from a hurricane..... it was more like a severe wx event! It was nice to get a tropical system up in Long Island again though, after we'd had a several year tropical drought. I'm glad the damage wasn't worse, this kind of track could have been extremely destructive if we had something as strong as Gloria on this track at astronomical high tide.

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