Ian Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Intensity has stabilized and structure is improving. Is it me or does it look more annular now? I've notified The Dude. Check back later. I'd say the answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUBlizzicane2007 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Intensity has stabilized and structure is improving. Is it me or does it look more annular now? I suggest you read some papers on what an annular hurricane is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSUBlizzicane2007 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I was partially joking but yeah, the feeder bands are too large and persistent for it to be annular. Joke posts such as yours belong here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Missing the whole SW side of the storm East coast really did luck out in a way. Had this had better structural integrity, easily could have been a category 4 approaching the outer banks Looking like a slow strengthening trend is on tap, evidence of an inner max trying to close off in the last couple frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGuide Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I know everybody late last night early this AM was talking about a Eastern jog. Certainly looks from the visible satellite that with the eye trying to redevelop its taken a jog westward now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 So aside from other preposterous suggestions, Irene is looking a little better in terms of a clearer eye and all. We'll see. I don't expect and strengthening, but at least should hold its own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Looking like a slow strengthening trend is on tap, evidence of an inner max trying to close off in the last couple frames You do know how those MIMIC animations are made, right? Unless the last frame in that loop says "00:00 away", it and the preceeding frames are not based on actual data. http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/marti/description.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan88 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Gaining longitude still, last fix was 077 deg 24 min W, looks to be around 077 deg 29 min W now. 170500 3105N 07727W 6969 02699 9491 +152 +062 123012 014 026 001 03 170530 3104N 07728W 6966 02700 9494 +147 +064 100005 006 025 000 00 170600 3102N 07729W 6967 02699 9493 +150 +067 019003 004 022 001 00 170630 3100N 07730W 6967 02698 9489 +152 +070 325006 006 022 000 00 170700 3059N 07731W 6965 02703 9490 +153 +071 323010 012 025 000 00 170730 3057N 07732W 6973 02696 9490 +154 +073 327015 017 /// /// 03 170800 3058N 07734W 6961 02714 9477 +172 +075 329021 023 022 000 03 170830 3058N 07736W 6968 02709 9482 +171 +076 338025 030 027 001 03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I know everybody late last night early this AM was talking about a Eastern jog. Certainly looks from the visible satellite that with the eye trying to redevelop its taken a jog westward now. I notice that on the end of the microwave loop posted...it appears to be straight north or maybe just a hair west of north (~355) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan88 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 So second fix in a row with longitude gain, pressure still slowly rising. 000 URNT12 KNHC 261724 VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL092011 A. 26/17:06:00Z B. 31 deg 02 min N 077 deg 29 min W C. 700 mb 2660 m D. 68 kt E. 049 deg 43 nm F. 137 deg 92 kt G. 050 deg 84 nm H. 951 mb I. 14 C / 3046 m J. 18 C / 3055 m K. 8 C / NA L. NA M. NA N. 12345 / 7 O. 0.02 / 3 nm P. AF306 2709A IRENE OB 22 MAX FL WIND 105 KT SE QUAD 13:36:40Z MAX FL TEMP 20 C 251 / 11 NM FROM FL CNTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannor Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Storms this big will wobble like a top. I know everybody late last night early this AM was talking about a Eastern jog. Certainly looks from the visible satellite that with the eye trying to redevelop its taken a jog westward now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW155 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Hearing that 8 people were hurt in West Palm Beach when a rouge wave hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpantz Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Looks like the eyewall is showing up on Wilmington, NC radar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Cherry's Jacket Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 You do know how those MIMIC animations are made, right? Unless the last frame in that loop says "00:00 away", it and the preceeding frames are not based on actual data. http://cimss.ssec.wi...escription.html So, what's the value of the animation to a met if it isn't based on data? The link says its to show different types of rotation, but it seems like I could program a computer to show any kind of rotation back to an actual photo, and be of no value except entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Wood Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Hearing that 8 people were hurt in West Palm Beach when a rouge wave hit.Rouge may be a little strong of a word. Video here:http://ulocal.wpbf.com/_Video-of-wave-that-injured-8-at-Boynton-Inlet/video/1625002/63278.html EDIT: This apparently happened yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUmet Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Irene's center is about to encounter the Gulf Stream. I wonder if the convective tower on the north and northwest quads are a response to this. I don't expect any substantial strengthening, but it may level out some over the next 6-12 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Down to 100 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Down to 100 mph. Interesting... gained .2 W since 11 AM... probably wobbles. Also now 100 mph .5 N .2 W since 11am NHC advisory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL03 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Fireing up in the middle again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southland Wx Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 2 words...dry air. Hypothesis...the SE/TX drought is going to be what prevents Irene from reaching her full potential. Soil moisture and WV maps below. I gotta wonder if the inflow now around Irene is tapping into the dry air, enhanced by drought over the Southeast and Texas. That's impressive dry air on WV imagery, and I have to think this is going to be the biggest limiting factor to Irene the next 24-48 hours. In other words, similar to how Don was probably choked by dry air off Texas, Irene may be feeling a similar impact now and is moving too slowly to really avoid it. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Clinch Leatherwood Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 2 words...dry air. Hypothesis...the SE/TX drought is going to be what prevents Irene from reaching her full potential. Soil moisture and WV maps below. I gotta wonder if the inflow now around Irene is tapping into the dry air, enhanced by drought over the Southeast and Texas. That's impressive dry air on WV imagery, and I have to think this is going to be the biggest limiting factor to Irene the next 24-48 hours. In other words, similar to how Don was probably choked by dry air off Texas, Irene may be feeling a similar impact now and is moving too slowly to really avoid it. Just a thought. 100% agree, the larger loop tells the story http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/satellite/displaySat.php?region=US&itype=wv&size=large&endDate=20110826&endTime=-1&duration=5 As the dry air nosed into Florida earlier today it also ended up drawn into Irene. I wonder how much it will play a role as her western side draws more and more from the dry land and airmass to the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Ok, who stole the other half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k*** Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 100% agree, the larger loop tells the story http://weather.rap.u...e=-1&duration=5 As the dry air nosed into Florida earlier today it also ended up drawn into Irene. I wonder how much it will play a role as her western side draws more and more from the dry land and airmass to the west. I have a totally different interpretation of that loop...it looks to me as if the dry air is being pushed west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I have a totally different interpretation of that loop...it looks to me as if the dry air is being pushed west. That is the way it looks to me as well. Getting pushed to the west and also south as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southland Wx Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I have a totally different interpretation of that loop...it looks to me as if the dry air is being pushed west. Follow the wind barbs...where is the source region for the inflow to Irene? Starts on land in the SE, travels over the Gulf across FL and in. It's clearly taking in dry air. It doesn't mean it won't hold its own or even strengthen again. But in my own opinion, dry air is going to hamper it. It's not manufacturing dry air...there's not much SAL around. I'm reasonably confident it's taking in dry air off a VERY dry landmass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k*** Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Follow the wind barbs...where is the source region for the inflow to Irene? I'm not saying that there isn't some dry air around, but I think you are overstating the case especially since it isn't real entraining into the core. The loop clearly shows dry air being modified all over the east coast by the storm itself. Also, those are surface winds...the WV loop/panel above isn't a surface moisture plot, so i'm not sure that it really proves much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris87 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Follow the wind barbs...where is the source region for the inflow to Irene? Starts on land in the SE, travels over the Gulf across FL and in. It's clearly taking in dry air. It doesn't mean it won't hold its own or even strengthen again. But in my own opinion, dry air is going to hamper it. It's not manufacturing dry air...there's not much SAL around. I'm reasonably confident it's taking in dry air off a VERY dry landmass. You devalued your point with this image... the main source region is the belt of stronger winds east of Florida....that inflow is playing a much more significant role than the dry continental air...although I'll concede the dry continental air may be playing a small factor *EDIT* additionally, the mid-level flow (where that dry air actually is) is *NOT* being advected towards Irene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southland Wx Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I'm not saying that there isn't some dry air around, but I think you are overstating the case especially since it isn't real entraining into the core. The loop clearly shows dry air being modified all over the east coast by the storm itself. Also, those are surface winds...the WV loop/panel above isn't a surface moisture plot, so i'm not sure that it really proves much. You devalued your point with this image... the main source region is the belt of stronger winds east of Florida....that inflow is playing a much more significant role than the dry continental air...although I'll concede the dry continental air may be playing a small factor *EDIT* additionally, the mid-level flow (where that dry air actually is) is *NOT* being advected towards Irene. Look at any of the 12z levels and it's not DIRECT flow, but there's almost 0 question that some dry air is being wrapped into this thing by way of the Southeast. I will grant that it is not in the core of the storm yet. But it certainly can't be helping this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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