TwcMan Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 It would be cool to see it colder in northern Florida than northern Maine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 12z euro has snowshowers through the whole week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 lol yes, but the only thing is this setup would crush any storm it's like a big bowl sits right on top of us... it definitely goes into a highly anomolous set-up.. 850 mb temps near west Palm beach get to near -4.... while I realize they have a much better sun angle to work with, I'm sure that will be pretty cool for those folks down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Has NYC ever saw temps in the single digits in December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfica356 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 216 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 all of pa sees snow for 2 days straight, actually a bullsye of lgt to mod precip over del se pa and southern jers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I love snow but I also like brutally cold air. I only love brutally cold air if snow is on the ground otherwise its depressing. Whoever gets a snow pack look out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 phl sees .25-.5 from lake effect or disturbances rotating around the pv or something is causing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 the temps don't really seem brutally cold.. I think we could have seen worse than this.. but the penetration southward is pretty impressive. I think it will be much more a rude awakening for the deep south if this were to verify. 2 meter daytime temps near the end of the period don't do much better than 50 near Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 The snow belts are going to be under 3-6FT+ by the time december is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 only thing neg bout how massive the block is well two things, one storms would be crushed, 2 its literally chokes the cold off in canada the block goes to alaska almost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nikolai Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 phl sees .25-.5 from lake effect or disturbances rotating around the pv or something is causing it NYC? Any arctic outbreak as intense as the EURO is showing is bound to get someone with some rogue streamers. I think the bottom line from the 12z runs is that the pattern, while slightly chaotic, will give us opportunities for snow and December will end up significantly colder than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Maybe, and i'll take another 12/30/00 storm! This will be like December 2000.... Just an rushing of cold air forever. Incredible cold hit the East in 2000 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 the temps don't really seem brutally cold.. I think we could have seen worse than this.. but the penetration southward is pretty impressive. I think it will be much more a rude awakening for the deep south if this were to verify. 2 meter daytime temps near the end of the period don't do much better than 50 near Miami. You do have a point... I would like to point January 2004, had a -25 to -28 at H850..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 That's a bitter and brutally cold pattern. Just shows you how this upcoming storm will promote a stronger blocking pattern and the West based -NAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 So our storm was a cold front followed by light-mod snow and more cold? That is what I gather. If so, the storm after this would be better positioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 NYC? Any arctic outbreak as intense as the EURO is showing is bound to get someone with some rogue streamers. I think the bottom line from the 12z runs is that the pattern, while slightly chaotic, will give us opportunities for snow and December will end up significantly colder than normal. nyc prob sees a tenth or so, its hvr in phl and hvr south of phl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 nyc prob sees a tenth or so, its hvr in phl and hvr south of phl I think the upcoming pattern might support some bay-effect snow, we shall see. It should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 the temps don't really seem brutally cold.. I think we could have seen worse than this.. but the penetration southward is pretty impressive. I think it will be much more a rude awakening for the deep south if this were to verify. 2 meter daytime temps near the end of the period don't do much better than 50 near Miami. Isnt this normal for a neg AO signal, Jay? Much like what we had last winter-- the most severe negative anomalies are further south. Of course, I would gladly trade severe cold in favor of snow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 It would be a hell of lot better if we had all this cold with STJ, a la February 2003. But we will not leave December empty handed, I can tell you that. Could you imagine what kind of winter we would be having with this kind of NAO and a weak la nina or weak el nino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Could you imagine what kind of winter we would be having with this kind of NAO and a weak la nina or weak el nino? A repeat of winter 2009-2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Could you imagine what kind of winter we would be having with this kind of NAO and a weak la nina or weak el nino? Well, it would be like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwcMan Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Didn't DT say the Nina was weakening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrick Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Hi, Chris...I hope all is well =) I hate to disagree with you, but I am going to. We were spoiled last winter. It is possible to leave December with a history of brutally cold air & windswept rainstorms... typical Nina. It would be a hell of lot better if we had all this cold with STJ, a la February 2003. But we will not leave December empty handed, I can tell you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Didn't DT say the Nina was weakening? Yes and this has HUGE implications for our winter. Weak La Nina with -NAO and -AO= Also without the raging pacific jet we'd be able to build a nice +PNA and then we'd have a cold AND snowy pattern. This may well happen without the weakening of the La Nina but it'll be much less common in that pattern than in the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I listened to his "This Week in Weather" radio show last night and while he did mention that La Nina may be weakening he was not completely certain as of yet but believed it "could" be trending in that direction. He also mentioned the way the pattern is right now its not good if you want an east coast snowstorm, he gave a pretty good discussion. Didn't DT say the Nina was weakening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Could see some decent snow games in the NFL this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isnice Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 This spells suppression depression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 *coughcoughKMACOASTALcoughcough** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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