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I did a little research (thanks to phillyweather.net at the NWS site in Mt. Holly), and it now looks like Philly is in the midst of the wettest August in any of our lifetimes (with apologies to those over 100 years old). I'm basing this off of the 10.26" of rainfall this month that was listed under the Preliminary Monthly Climate Data page plus the 0.56" received in the 6 hours preceding 7:54 AM EDT today, and the 0.68" of precipitation last hour on the Observations page.

Philly’s Wettest Augusts

August 1911 12.10”

August 2011 11.50”

August 1873 11.49”

August 2009 10.29”

Philly’s Wettest Months

September 1999 13.07”

August 1911 12.10”

September 1882 12.09”

August 2011 11.50”

August 1873 11.49”

July 1994 10.42”

July 1930 10.30”

August 2009 10.29”

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I did a little research (thanks to phillyweather.net at the NWS site in Mt. Holly), and it now looks like Philly is in the midst of the wettest August in any of our lifetimes (with apologies to those over 100 years old). I'm basing this off of the 10.26" of rainfall this month that was listed under the Preliminary Monthly Climate Data page plus the 0.56" received in the 6 hours preceding 7:54 AM EDT today, and the 0.68" of precipitation last hour on the Observations page.

Philly’s Wettest Augusts

August 1911 12.10”

August 2011 11.50”

August 1873 11.49”

August 2009 10.29”

Philly’s Wettest Months

September 1999 13.07”

August 1911 12.10”

September 1882 12.09”

August 2011 11.50”

August 1873 11.49”

July 1994 10.42”

July 1930 10.30”

August 2009 10.29”

it would be real interesting how many of the wet months had a tropical storm influence? Can you show this? Thanks

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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED

FLOOD WATCH

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ

312 PM EDT THU AUG 18 2011

COUNTY SPECIFIC MESSAGE:

/O.NEW.KPHI.FF.A.0007.110819T0800Z-110820T1000Z/

/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/

NEW CASTLE-CECIL-KENT MD-WESTERN MONMOUTH-EASTERN MONMOUTH-MERCER-

SALEM-GLOUCESTER-CAMDEN-NORTHWESTERN BURLINGTON-OCEAN-CUMBERLAND-

ATLANTIC-CAPE MAY-ATLANTIC COASTAL CAPE MAY-COASTAL ATLANTIC-

COASTAL OCEAN-SOUTHEASTERN BURLINGTON-CHESTER-MONTGOMERY-BUCKS-

DELAWARE-PHILADELPHIA-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WILMINGTON...ELKTON...CHESTERTOWN...

FREEHOLD...SANDY HOOK...TRENTON...PENNSVILLE...GLASSBORO...

CAMDEN...CHERRY HILL...MOORESTOWN...MOUNT HOLLY...JACKSON...

MILLVILLE...HAMMONTON...CAPE MAY COURT HOUSE...OCEAN CITY...

ATLANTIC CITY...LONG BEACH ISLAND...WHARTON STATE FOREST...

WEST CHESTER...NORRISTOWN...DOYLESTOWN...MEDIA...PHILADELPHIA

312 PM EDT THU AUG 18 2011

...FLASH FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE

FRIDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WATCH FOR THE PENNSYLVANIA COUNTIES OF BUCKS,

MONTGOMERY, CHESTER, DELAWARE AND PHILADELPHIA, FOR THE NEW

JERSEY COUNTIES OF MERCER, MONMOUTH, OCEAN, BURLINGTON, CAMDEN,

GLOUCESTER, SALEM, CUMBERLAND, ATLANTIC AND CAPE MAY, FOR NEW

CASTLE COUNTY IN DELAWARE AND FOR CECIL AND KENT COUNTIES IN

MARYLAND.

* FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT

* SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE FRIDAY

NIGHT ARE EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ONE HALF TO ONE INCH OF RAIN WITH

LOCALIZED AMOUNTS OF TWO TO FOUR INCHES POSSIBLE. CONDITIONS IN

OUR REGION ARE NEARLY SATURATED DUE TO THE RECENT RAINFALL. ANY

ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAIN MAY LEAD TO LOCALIZED FLASH FLOODING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FLASH FLOOD WATCH MEANS THAT CONDITIONS MAY DEVELOP THAT LEAD

TO FLASH FLOODING. FLASH FLOODING IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

YOU SHOULD MONITOR LATER FORECASTS AND BE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION

SHOULD FLASH FLOOD WARNINGS BE ISSUED.

AFFECTED COUNTIES:

IN DELAWARE: NEW CASTLE. IN MARYLAND: CECIL, KENT. IN NEW JERSEY: ATLANTIC, ATLANTIC, COASTAL, BURLINGTON, BURLINGTON, NORTHWESTERN, BURLINGTON, SOUTHEASTERN, CAMDEN, CAPE MAY, CAPE MAY, COASTAL, CUMBERLAND, GLOUCESTER, MERCER, MONMOUTH, MONMOUTH, EASTERN, MONMOUTH, WESTERN, OCEAN, OCEAN, COASTAL, SALEM. IN PENNSYLVANIA: BUCKS, CHESTER, DELAWARE, MONTGOMERY, PHILADELPHIA.

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New AFD thinks NAM is overdone.

SUNDAY AND MONDAY...A MORE SIGNIFICANT UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE

THROUGH SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT. THIS WILL DRIVE A STRONGER SURFACE

COLD FRONT ACROSS THE REGION. AS THE HEIGHTS FALL MORE

SUBSTANTIALLY AND A BELT OF STRONGER MID LEVEL FLOW ACCOMPANIES THE

TROUGH, A MORE ORGANIZED CONVECTIVE THREAT MAY UNFOLD. AT LEAST

SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE ANTICIPATED SUNDAY AND

SUNDAY NIGHT WITH THE COLD FRONT AND POSSIBLY EVEN INITIALLY WITH A

LEE SIDE TROUGH OR LEAD WEAK SURFACE DISTURBANCE. LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN

WILL AGAIN BE POSSIBLE WITHE SOME SIGNALS IN THE MODEL GUIDANCE

POINTING TO SOME ORGANIZED CLUSTERS OF STRONGER CONVECTION. AT THIS

POINT, THE 12Z NAM LOOKS OVERDONE WITH ITS STRONGER AND MORE

CONSOLIDATED SURFACE REFLECTION SUNDAY AFTERNOON. THE FRONT SHOULD

BE SHUNTED TO OUR EAST EARLY MONDAY MORNING AS LARGE HIGH PRESSURE

ARRIVES FROM THE WEST. SOME MODEL GUIDANCE LINGERS THE FRONT BACK

SOME MONDAY WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR ISOLATED CONVECTION, HOWEVER FOR

NOW WE WILL PUSH THE FRONT FAR ENOUGH EAST AND JUST KEEP A SLIGHT

CHC POP MAINLY INLAND.

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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ

341 PM EDT THU AUG 18 2011

...PLENTY OF RAIN FOR AUGUST 2011...

THE RAINFALL HAS BEEN VERY HEAVY THIS MONTH ACROSS A DECENT PORTION

OF THE REGION, WHICH HAS LED TO AREAS OF FLOODING. THE RAIN TOTALS

HAVE BEEN CLIMBING THE RECORDS LIST AS WELL AT SOME SITES. BELOW

IS A RANKING SUMMARY LIST OF SOME OF THE CLIMATE SITES. THUS FAR,

PHILADELPHIA HAS PICKED UP THE MOST AND WE WILL LIKELY ADD TO

THESE TOTALS DURING THE REMAINDER OF THE MONTH. ALLENTOWN,

PENNSYLVANIA SHOULD END UP IN THE TOP 10 FOR WETTEST AUGUSTS.

...PHILADELPHIA...

WETTEST AUGUSTS

---------------

1) 12.10 INCHES IN AUGUST 1911

2) 11.50 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

3) 11.49 INCHES IN AUGUST 1873

4) 10.29 INCHES IN AUGUST 2009

5) 9.84 INCHES IN AUGUST 1933

WETTEST MONTHS

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1) 13.07 INCHES IN SEPTEMBER 1999

2) 12.10 INCHES IN AUGUST 1911

3) 12.09 INCHES IN SEPTEMBER 1882

4) 11.50 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

5) 11.49 INCHES IN AUGUST 1873

...TRENTON...

WETTEST AUGUSTS

---------------

1) 10.07 INCHES IN AUGUST 2009

2) 6.56 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

3) 4.34 INCHES IN AUGUST 2004

4) 4.06 INCHES IN AUGUST 2002

5) 3.53 INCHES IN AUGUST 1945

...MOUNT POCONO...

WETTEST AUGUSTS

---------------

1) 10.78 INCHES IN AUGUST 2004

2) 5.99 INCHES IN AUGUST 2009

3) 5.62 INCHES IN AUGUST 2006

4) 5.58 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

5) 5.28 INCHES IN AUGUST 2003

...ALLENTOWN...

WETTEST AUGUSTS

---------------

1) 12.10 INCHES IN AUGUST 1955

2) 11.00 INCHES IN AUGUST 1933

3) 9.95 INCHES IN AUGUST 1928

4) 9.42 INCHES IN AUGUST 1974

5) 9.25 INCHES IN AUGUST 1971

6) 8.95 INCHES IN AUGUST 1978

7) 8.74 INCHES IN AUGUST 1942

8) 8.43 INCHES IN AUGUST 1982

9) 7.49 INCHES IN AUGUST 1927

10) 7.09 INCHES IN AUGUST 1987

11) 7.01 INCHES IN AUGUST 1954

12) 6.69 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

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FFW out for tonight and tomorrow for central and northern areas:

...FLASH FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATEFRIDAY NIGHT...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED A* FLASH FLOOD WATCH FOR THE PENNSYLVANIA COUNTIES OF BUCKS, MONTGOMERY, CHESTER, DELAWARE AND PHILADELPHIA, FOR THE NEW JERSEY COUNTIES OF MERCER, MONMOUTH, OCEAN, BURLINGTON, CAMDEN, GLOUCESTER, SALEM, CUMBERLAND, ATLANTIC AND CAPE MAY, FOR NEW CASTLE COUNTY IN DELAWARE AND FOR CECIL AND KENT COUNTIES IN MARYLAND.* FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT* SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT ARE EXPECTED TO PRODUCE ONE HALF TO ONE INCH OF RAIN WITH LOCALIZED AMOUNTS OF TWO TO FOUR INCHES POSSIBLE. CONDITIONS IN OUR REGION ARE NEARLY SATURATED DUE TO THE RECENT RAINFALL. ANY ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAIN MAY LEAD TO LOCALIZED FLASH FLOODING.
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Considering the NAM yesterday was underdone on precip totals...I'm not so sure I can agree.

It'll overdo clouds and lower temps but the NAM's been good of late on QPF.

We mentioned, "AT THIS POINT, THE 12Z NAM LOOKS OVERDONE WITH ITS STRONGER AND MORE CONSOLIDATED SURFACE REFLECTION SUNDAY AFTERNOON". Nothing there says the QPF may be overdone. Some spots may end up getting a lot of rain, but the 12z NAM may be to widespread with its bullseye.

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We mentioned, "AT THIS POINT, THE 12Z NAM LOOKS OVERDONE WITH ITS STRONGER AND MORE CONSOLIDATED SURFACE REFLECTION SUNDAY AFTERNOON". Nothing there says the QPF may be overdone. Some spots may end up getting a lot of rain, but the 12z NAM may be to widespread with its bullseye.

The NAM has had a similar QPF bomb (placement has varied) for three runs in a row going back to 0z. You're right on the geography being more widespread on the 12z...perhaps too much so (don't dispute that)...but there's a pretty consistent signal by the NAM for a possible MCS/heavy thunderstorm event of some sort later this weekend.

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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ

341 PM EDT THU AUG 18 2011

...PLENTY OF RAIN FOR AUGUST 2011...

THE RAINFALL HAS BEEN VERY HEAVY THIS MONTH ACROSS A DECENT PORTION

OF THE REGION, WHICH HAS LED TO AREAS OF FLOODING. THE RAIN TOTALS

HAVE BEEN CLIMBING THE RECORDS LIST AS WELL AT SOME SITES. BELOW

IS A RANKING SUMMARY LIST OF SOME OF THE CLIMATE SITES. THUS FAR,

PHILADELPHIA HAS PICKED UP THE MOST AND WE WILL LIKELY ADD TO

THESE TOTALS DURING THE REMAINDER OF THE MONTH. ALLENTOWN,

PENNSYLVANIA SHOULD END UP IN THE TOP 10 FOR WETTEST AUGUSTS.

...PHILADELPHIA...

WETTEST AUGUSTS

---------------

1) 12.10 INCHES IN AUGUST 1911

2) 11.50 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

3) 11.49 INCHES IN AUGUST 1873

4) 10.29 INCHES IN AUGUST 2009

5) 9.84 INCHES IN AUGUST 1933

WETTEST MONTHS

--------------

1) 13.07 INCHES IN SEPTEMBER 1999

2) 12.10 INCHES IN AUGUST 1911

3) 12.09 INCHES IN SEPTEMBER 1882

4) 11.50 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

5) 11.49 INCHES IN AUGUST 1873

...TRENTON...

WETTEST AUGUSTS

---------------

1) 10.07 INCHES IN AUGUST 2009

2) 6.56 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

3) 4.34 INCHES IN AUGUST 2004

4) 4.06 INCHES IN AUGUST 2002

5) 3.53 INCHES IN AUGUST 1945

...MOUNT POCONO...

WETTEST AUGUSTS

---------------

1) 10.78 INCHES IN AUGUST 2004

2) 5.99 INCHES IN AUGUST 2009

3) 5.62 INCHES IN AUGUST 2006

4) 5.58 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

5) 5.28 INCHES IN AUGUST 2003

...ALLENTOWN...

WETTEST AUGUSTS

---------------

1) 12.10 INCHES IN AUGUST 1955

2) 11.00 INCHES IN AUGUST 1933

3) 9.95 INCHES IN AUGUST 1928

4) 9.42 INCHES IN AUGUST 1974

5) 9.25 INCHES IN AUGUST 1971

6) 8.95 INCHES IN AUGUST 1978

7) 8.74 INCHES IN AUGUST 1942

8) 8.43 INCHES IN AUGUST 1982

9) 7.49 INCHES IN AUGUST 1927

10) 7.09 INCHES IN AUGUST 1987

11) 7.01 INCHES IN AUGUST 1954

12) 6.69 INCHES IN AUGUST 2011

Thanks for the data. It has been proven real interesting with this data, that there is a pretty good chance of tropical development coming our way in September or October. Hurricanes in 1955, 1933 and 1911 struck our area. from August through October. This does not bode well for the flooded areas the past two weeks. Were those transition years from La Nina to El Nino for tropical development, the same years as the storms hit our areas? Just curious

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phlwx wrote...The NAM has had a similar QPF bomb (placement has varied) for three runs in a row going back to 0z. You're right on the geography being more widespread on the 12z...perhaps too much so (don't dispute that)...but there's a pretty consistent signal by the NAM for a possible MCS/heavy thunderstorm event of some sort later this weekend.

I do not think what the NAM is showing later Sunday is an MCS. It becomes more robust with a surface low that develops along the front which therefore cranks up the QPF. I guess we can agree to disagree on this. I do agree that there is a decent signal by the NAM of locally very heavy rain (somewhere) later this weekend.

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Edit: cell popped up on radar over Langhorne. This is the most thunder I've heard this year and yet not a drop of rain (0.17" this AM though)

frequent thunder/lightning here...almost constant actually. despite nothing on radar except that storm near KDIX lightning.gif

which, by the way, is right out my window:

post-1820-0-58563600-1313704892.jpg

boy would i love that storm down in Cecil Co MD to ride up 95 and give me a nice going-away present

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Edit: cell popped up on radar over Langhorne. This is the most thunder I've heard this year and yet not a drop of rain (0.17" this AM though)

frequent thunder/lightning here...almost constant actually. despite nothing on radar except that storm near KDIX lightning.gif

which, by the way, is right out my window:

post-1820-0-58563600-1313704892.jpg

boy would i love that storm down in Cecil Co MD to ride up 95 and give me a nice going-away present

This is the last time you'll be around here for how long or for good?

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Reporting in from Oak Island, pretty wild day weather wise down here today, at least four waterspouts between Carolina Beach & Myrtle Beach , the one in Carolina Beach actually came on shore - video is really cool

there was a small waterspout that did touch down off Oak Island but by the time I ran back to the house to grab the camera it had receeded for the most part

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Reporting in from Oak Island, pretty wild day weather wise down here today, at least four waterspouts between Carolina Beach & Myrtle Beach , the one in Carolina Beach actually came on shore - video is really cool

there was a small waterspout that did touch down off Oak Island but by the time I ran back to the house to grab the camera it had receeded for the most part

Awesome stuff!

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