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Summer's Swan Song


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You should avoid the caffeine at your age and with a lil snowboarder. I just have 1 cup of Joe per day plus a diet coke or 2...

Kinda humid. 58 for the low...

I rarely drink soda. I have a friend that owns a plumbing company. For many years he had a contract with Coca Cola to replace the stainless steel lines in the bottling facility every 18 months. The Coke syrup was so caustic it pitted the lines. One year we put a framing nail in a litre of coke to see what would happen. About 10 days later there wasn't much of the nail left. I'll pass on that sugary draino. (once in a while a coke with a slice of za is good but that's about it for me).

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I love summer, the August assualt in full swing, looks like Boston will get there 4th straight well above normal departure today. Somebody will hit 90, the sun is strong, off to the beach!

Pete, how much snow are you expecting today?

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I love summer, the August assualt in full swing, looks like Boston will get there 4th straight well above normal departure today. Somebody will hit 90, the sun is strong, off to the beach!

Pete, how much snow are you expecting today?

Just another day of pleasant 70's, for some reason that well above normal regime you keep talking about never seems to take root here.

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I rarely drink soda. I have a friend that owns a plumbing company. For many years he had a contract with Coca Cola to replace the stainless steel lines in the bottling facility every 18 months. The Coke syrup was so caustic it pitted the lines. One year we put a framing nail in a litre of coke to see what would happen. About 10 days later there wasn't much of the nail left. I'll pass on that sugary draino. (once in a while a coke with a slice of za is good but that's about it for me).

Yeah... carbonic acid is fun stuff... not too low in pH, but it is a weak acid. Framing nails are coated, right? That stuff will get eaten pretty quickly I think to preserve the actual steel.

Anyway, nasty here attm... temps have climbed to 67/66... just 40 miles west it is 62/61

My lawn is growing like crazy for this time of year, despite not doing anything to it. Slight warmth and a lot of rain will do that.

We might hit the 80s again today Oh NOES!

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I'm hoping for that, Pete. But, the ZFP has us both as low 80's.

That said, those have busted a lot these days.

I'm guesing I'll top out at 78-79. Even if we hit 80 for a 3rd time it won't be that bad. It's easy to deal with heat when you know Summer is just about done. Sun isn't as strong now as well. Out to enjoy a beautiful day, chores, golf, family bbq. It's summer and the living is easy.

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73/64 here... I think we'll crap out in the very high 70's or 80. Pretty hard to get any more temperature rise after 4:00 or 4:30 PM now in late August.

Sun angle now down to 59.7 degrees at Albany. Sunset at 7:50 PM, but effectively goes down under the hills here by 7:35 now.

74.9/67 and it's only 12:15. Makes me wonder why I'm spending my day stacking wood.........

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Clouds and showers? There's nothing on satellite right now except for dissipating fog in the valleys and a few orographic clouds in VT.

Look at the radar from the time of my post. Looked as if there was a small area of showers along the spine. We had clouds move through but no rain. Perhaps it was a radar hallucination. A beautiful day unfolding here presently.

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73/64 here... I think we'll crap out in the very high 70's or 80. Pretty hard to get any more temperature rise after 4:00 or 4:30 PM now in late August.

Sun angle now down to 59.7 degrees at Albany. Sunset at 7:50 PM, but effectively goes down under the hills here by 7:35 now.

74/66, About the same here Rick. Big family BBQ at the in-laws, good day for it. Horseshoes FTW.

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ski MRG's normals compared to ORH:

  	WChes   ORH
  	-----  -----
MO DA  HI LO  HI LO
8 19  77 54  77 60
8 20  77 54  77 60
8 21  77 54  77 60
8 22  76 54  77 60
8 23  76 54  77 60
8 24  76 54  76 60
8 25  76 53  76 59
8 26  76 53  76 59
8 27  76 53  76 59
8 28  75 53  75 59
8 29  75 52  75 58
8 30  75 52  75 58
8 31  75 52  75 58

the W Chesterfield normals are the average normals of eight co-op stations within 25 miles between elevations of 1050 and 1650 feet, so it's a fairly good sampling of the climate.

That looks extremely reasonable... high temps don't vary much at similar elevations, its the overnight lows that vary with surrounding terrain. Micro-climates are much more noticeable at night depending on how sheltered your area is and how quickly/often winds go calm for radiation purposes.

I understand what Pete is saying about micro-climates, but I monitor temperatures on an almost daily basis across Stowe ski resort on Mansfield (with its own hollows, ridges, dips, etc spread out over 3-4 miles across and 2,500 vertical feet) and high temperatures at all sites follow the textbook dry or moist adiabatic rates. Its the overnight lows that will be all over the place depending on where the sensor is (in a small hollow or up on a flanking ridge). And I get a pretty darn good sample as our new snowmaking equipment comes with a temp/dew/wetbulb sensor on every single tower gun, so you can essentially see the temperature data every 100 feet on a variety of trails all over the mountain.

Daytime highs pretty much always show a uniform adiabatic rate depending on elevation and it doesn't matter if its in a depression or not; which is why those co-op numbers make sense... its the overnight lows that'll vary a lot from one spot to the next.

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Those are irrelevant, I-95 corridor hell holes where too many people live. Our highs aren't even close. Who cares what the temp is in those places anyway. You might as well give the temps for the surface of the sun.

But your normal/average highs aren't even close either... its probably still been above normal there. Departures won't change from location to location, especially if the H85 air has been averaging above normal. No one disputes the temperatures are colder in the hills than in the I-95 corridor, haha.

Its like a high of 65F at the summit of Mansfield is not even close to the high temps at Burlington (say 85F)... but that 65F is still +5F over the average of 60F, and 85F is still +5F for Burlington (ie warmer than normal regardless of elevation). I'm honestly not trying to spin it one way or another... I wish it was below normal... but it hasn't been. Above normal can still "feel" cool if you are at a high enough elevation. Below normal would be highs in the 60s right now below 2,000ft...or highs in the 40s and 50s above 2,000ft.

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But your normal/average highs aren't even close either... its probably still been above normal there. Departures won't change from location to location, especially if the H85 air has been averaging above normal. No one disputes the temperatures are colder in the hills than in the I-95 corridor, haha.

Its like a high of 65F at the summit of Mansfield is not even close to the high temps at Burlington (say 85F)... but that 65F is still +5F over the average of 60F, and 85F is still +5F for Burlington (ie warmer than normal regardless of elevation). I'm honestly not trying to spin it one way or another... I wish it was below normal... but it hasn't been. Above normal can still "feel" cool if you are at a high enough elevation. Below normal would be highs in the 60s right now below 2,000ft...or highs in the 40s and 50s above 2,000ft.

Temps here from the 8th through today:

81/60

74/56

78/61

74/53

77/48

66/48

63/59

63/57

75/51

72/53

78/51

Even using the numbers concocted by Snowman21 for the end of the month there aren't alot of +departures on high temps. As I've said any+ departure here would be driven by elevated overnight lows. BTW, I do understand average highs/lows are different in different places in the world.lol Where are the scorching high departures?

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commented earlier in the first flakes thread (erroniously) as i will not be seeing any first or last flakes here in boca raton, fl . .... well it's been about 34 years since a flake has appeared in the sky so maybe this is the year!

I took a nice salary position at a company in boca (where i lived for a decade) prior. living in Delray beach near the boynton beach line. anyone gets sick and tired of the snow this winter fly on down there is an xtra broom here and i have been told guests are welcome. :)

looking to see if the training here will afford me the opportunity to move back to new england as early as next year w/ a competitor with a comparable salary. my heart has and will always be in new england and i will probably be weeining up some threads this winter.

currently 92.5/ 76 in delray , fl

hopefully will be up over a weekend or such in the next 90 days :)

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Even using the numbers concocted by Snowman21 for the end of the month there aren't alot of +departures on high temps. As I've said any+ departure here would be driven by elevated overnight lows. BTW, I do understand average highs/lows are different in different places in the world.lol Where are the scorching high departures?

They are all back in July...

Using the ORH numbers for me (sililar el, close in lat), the biggest August departure for avg temp is Aug 8, where it was only +7...

But August there is still running +1.0 overall... barely noticable.

The pool was a little chilly at first (and a little debris filled), but I cleaned it up and it felt refreshing...

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commented earlier in the first flakes thread (erroniously) as i will not be seeing any first or last flakes here in boca raton, fl . .... well it's been about 34 years since a flake has appeared in the sky so maybe this is the year!

I took a nice salary position at a company in boca (where i lived for a decade) prior. living in Delray beach near the boynton beach line. anyone gets sick and tired of the snow this winter fly on down there is an xtra broom here and i have been told guests are welcome. :)

looking to see if the training here will afford me the opportunity to move back to new england as early as next year w/ a competitor with a comparable salary. my heart has and will always be in new england and i will probably be weeining up some threads this winter.

currently 92.5/ 76 in delray , fl

hopefully will be up over a weekend or such in the next 90 days :)

Good luck Christian! Let me know if you come up so we can finally meet up at Wachusett. Boca sounds nice...other than the temps...and all the people...:snowman:

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