BowMeHunter Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 lil faster than 12z.. same ole for up here. How the euro doesn't come south more than just a little move will be beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Faster by 6hrs through 90hrs.. Another thing to watch is the possible "squeeze play" between the building high dropping south and the moderate strength high off the east coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Exactly like the 12z run in fact (just a bit faster and colder), lock it in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 props to whoever said Louisville...DING DING DING. goes right over louisville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 props to whoever said Louisville...DING DING DING. goes right over louisville Thank you thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Exactly like the 12z run in fact (just a bit faster and colder), lock it in! Yeah it's pretty close to the 12z but a little weaker. (and faster) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Thank you thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneyman Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Ugh, I don't feel good at all here in S. WI. All we have going for us in the Euro. Every other model is south. The only positive thing is the fact that it's 100 hours out and that all we need in WI is for the low on the GFS to be about 90-100 miles nw and a bit stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Anybody up for chat room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 With this track from northeast Texas to where the map shows....if it was a big enough deformation shield maybe we can give the Ohio folks some snow but still get at least a little for Bo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 differences at H5 between the 12z and 0z GFS 0z 12z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omahawx Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 The latest gfs just sucks for anyone north of Nebraska to Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Ugh, I don't feel good at all here in S. WI. All we have going for us in the Euro. Every other model is south. The only positive thing is the fact that it's 100 hours out and that all we need in WI is for the low on the GFS to be about 90-100 miles nw and a bit stronger. All I can say to pessimists this far out is remember last year's storm around this time (December 8-9). That missed the Mke area the other direction for a blizzard. This one is likely to miss to the southeast, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Track is great. QPF leaves a little to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 differences at H5 between the 12z and 0z GFS 0z 12z Difference....WHAT DIFFERENCE? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 The latest gfs just sucks for anyone north of Nebraska to Wisconsin Its one run..people need to stop getting worked up over one run and know that were still 4 days from this thing and things can and probably will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamps10 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 great track.... would like a bit more QPF though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxMidwest Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 There are 2 things holding up the models right now, this far out, we examine these models way to hard. 1st, the sampling needs to come off the West Coast, That's why all the "got a clue" forecasters are waiting it out. 2nd, the clipper has a chance to interfere with the baroclinic zone. I believe the HPC has a handle on this, realizing the southern biases of the gfs and it's derivative models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherPimp Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Track is great. QPF leaves a little to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 The latest gfs just sucks for anyone north of Nebraska to Wisconsin Eastern Iowa to southern Wisconsin would still get 2-4 or 3-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 a tad north of 18 and about the same as 12....i think it's under estimating the warm surge that would come north with that puppy up here into ohio, unfortunately....still it would be a hell of a changeover from rain and or slop to wind driven snow on that back side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamps10 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I should edit, track is great QPF on the backside could be a touch more, but still looks good for if were using 10-1 ratios, a good 4-6" MBY of snow, leaning more towards the 4... bring on the rest to crush the dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 There are 2 things holding up the models right now, this far out, we examine these models way to hard. 1st, the sampling needs to come off the West Coast, That's why all the "got a clue" forecasters are waiting it out. 2nd, the clipper has a chance to interfere with the baroclinic zone. I believe the HPC has a handle on this, realizing the southern biases of the gfs and it's derivative models. Totally agree but it's still fun particularly with this model since it was so far out to lunch compared to other models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I love the 850 temps below zero in Miami and between -12 and -15 in northern Florida behind the storm. Florida needs some moisture and it would be a perfect opportunity for them to get some snow well south into the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Will temps in Indiana be low enough for this to be all, or at least mostly snow? Usually when/if they tap southern moisture, we'll have a mixed bag in central Indy. I recall several storms in the mid 90s where we were well below freezing (as low as 18F) and forecasted for snow, and it ended up being mostly ice/freezing rain due to a warm layer aloft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxMidwest Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Totally agree but it's still fun particularly with this model since it was so far out to lunch compared to other models. Agreed, thats why I'm here, . It's fun tracking the storms, but man, late nights, less sleep. Hey, we got cheap arizona tea and cheetos man, and of course AM Talk Radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Will temps in Indiana be low enough for this to be all, or at least mostly snow? Usually when/if they tap southern moisture, we'll have a mixed bag in central Indy. I recall several storms in the mid 90s where we were well below freezing (as low as 18F) and forecasted for snow, and it ended up being mostly ice/freezing rain due to a warm layer aloft. With the 00z GFS Indy would be all snow and Winter Storm Watch criteria for most of the IND, IWX, GRR, DTX, and western CLE CWA's....but as mentioned earlier it's still a ways out and needs to be sampled well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Not bad, but obviously I'd like those 0.75-1.25" to extend further NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Agreed, thats why I'm here, . It's fun tracking the storms, but man, late nights, less sleep. Hey, we got cheap arizona tea and cheetos man, and of course AM Talk Radio. I hear yeah....tomorrow I'll be much the same way on the day off after getting the 4 wheel drive fixed.... Ribeyes, burgers, and chicken on the grill....watch the plasma, and OFF COURSE the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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