NEOH Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 It's a combo of both, we are potentially looking at the third latest start for snow at CLE, if we make it to Friday without any. Looks like we won't make it to Friday. Woke to a nice to nice coating... probably .3 or so which was surprising. Looks like an extended period of light snow developing today so CLE should get something measurable if they didn't last night. Winds turn NW'erly Friday... with an extended period of LES on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Looks like we won't make it to Friday. Woke to a nice to nice coating... probably .3 or so which was surprising. Looks like an extended period of light snow developing today so CLE should get something measurable if they didn't last night. Winds turn NW'erly Friday... with an extended period of LES on the way. Nothing on the westside and downtown but flurries. If it does accumulate at CLE will be 5th latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Nothing on the westside and downtown but flurries. If it does accumulate at CLE will be 5th latest. The back edge of the precip really slowed down last night east of 71... probably the reason for the coating this morning. Been snowing lightly most of the morning in Chagrin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Trent - Do you know if the precip obs at CLE are automated? Check this out. Snow at 33 and rain at 30? 10 AM (15) Dec 0128 (-2)24 (-4)29.85 (1010)WSW 22light snow9 AM (14) Dec 0130.0 (-1.1)25.0 (-3.9)29.84 (1010)WSW 14light snow8 AM (13) Dec 0130.9 (-0.6)25.0 (-3.9)29.84 (1010)WSW 14light snow7 AM (12) Dec 0130.9 (-0.6)25.0 (-3.9)29.83 (1010)W 14light snow6 AM (11) Dec 0130.9 (-0.6)26.1 (-3.3)29.82 (1009)WSW 15light rain5 AM (10) Dec 0130.9 (-0.6)26.1 (-3.3)29.8 (1009)W 18light rain4 AM (9) Dec 0132.0 (0.0)27.0 (-2.8)29.81 (1009)W 16rain; mist3 AM (8) Dec 0133.1 (0.6)28.0 (-2.2)29.81 (1009)W 16light snow2 AM (7) Dec 0133.1 (0.6)30.0 (-1.1)29.8 (1009)WSW 12light snow1 AM (6) Dec 0133.1 (0.6)30.9 (-0.6)29.8 (1009)W 12light rain, snow; mistMidnight (5) Dec 0133 (1)30 (-1)29.8 (1009)W 15light rain, snow; mist EDIT: Format didn't hold unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 The back edge of the precip really slowed down last night east of 71... probably the reason for the coating this morning. Been snowing lightly most of the morning in Chagrin. Yep, precipitation slowed, but cold air kept moving. CLE probably didn't get anything measurable, possibly a tenth. There is nothing downtown. Clipper looks great for s ohio this weekend. These don't usually trend north, so I'm not paying much attention to it. I think Sunday will be the next LES opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carumba Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Yep, precipitation slowed, but cold air kept moving. CLE probably didn't get anything measurable, possibly a tenth. There is nothing downtown. Clipper looks great for s ohio this weekend. These don't usually trend north, so I'm not paying much attention to it. I think Sunday will be the next LES opportunity. Last year started out the same way with NE Ohio receiving little snow until New Years. Most of the events passed to our south or north, putting us in the donut hole. Seems the pattern is destined to repeat this year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Yep, precipitation slowed, but cold air kept moving. CLE probably didn't get anything measurable, possibly a tenth. There is nothing downtown. Clipper looks great for s ohio this weekend. These don't usually trend north, so I'm not paying much attention to it. I think Sunday will be the next LES opportunity. Clipper is looking good for C'bus south. LES behind the clipper is what I am looking forward to. This could be a 3-4 day long event. The flow appears to be NNW so even the secondary belt should get in on the snow. This isn't a real favorable wind direction for heavy snow though. This is 5 days out so a lot could change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Last year started out the same way with NE Ohio receiving little snow until New Years. Most of the events passed to our south or north, putting us in the donut hole. Seems the pattern is destined to repeat this year too. New year, new pattern. This is the winter of super clippers and apps runners, and just the beginning of a good December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Yep, precipitation slowed, but cold air kept moving. CLE probably didn't get anything measurable, possibly a tenth. There is nothing downtown. Clipper looks great for s ohio this weekend. These don't usually trend north, so I'm not paying much attention to it. I think Sunday will be the next LES opportunity. Wishful thinking on my part... but I wonder if the winds will come around more westerly late tonight once this disturbance passes to the south overnight. Winds are already turning more NW'erly upstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 New year, new pattern. This is the winter of super clippers and apps runners, and just the beginning of a good December. This is the winter of super clippers and apps runners? The storm tracks have changed throughout October and November. On Thanksgiving, and in the past two days, lows have tracked through Minnesota in a similar fashion with rain in the Ohio Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Trent - Do you know if the precip obs at CLE are automated? Check this out. Snow at 33 and rain at 30? 10 AM (15) Dec 0128 (-2)24 (-4)29.85 (1010)WSW 22light snow 9 AM (14) Dec 0130.0 (-1.1)25.0 (-3.9)29.84 (1010)WSW 14light snow 8 AM (13) Dec 0130.9 (-0.6)25.0 (-3.9)29.84 (1010)WSW 14light snow 7 AM (12) Dec 0130.9 (-0.6)25.0 (-3.9)29.83 (1010)W 14light snow 6 AM (11) Dec 0130.9 (-0.6)26.1 (-3.3)29.82 (1009)WSW 15light rain 5 AM (10) Dec 0130.9 (-0.6)26.1 (-3.3)29.8 (1009)W 18light rain 4 AM (9) Dec 0132.0 (0.0)27.0 (-2.8)29.81 (1009)W 16rain; mist 3 AM (8) Dec 0133.1 (0.6)28.0 (-2.2)29.81 (1009)W 16light snow 2 AM (7) Dec 0133.1 (0.6)30.0 (-1.1)29.8 (1009)WSW 12light snow 1 AM (6) Dec 0133.1 (0.6)30.9 (-0.6)29.8 (1009)W 12light rain, snow; mist Midnight (5) Dec 0133 (1)30 (-1)29.8 (1009)W 15light rain, snow; mist EDIT: Format didn't hold unfortunately The last observation of light rain was at 0551z (or 12:51AM Eastern), with a temperature of 0.6 degrees C. Since then it was snow. KCLE 010551Z 26010KT 4SM -RASN BR FEW010 OVC018 01/M01 A2980 RMK AO2 SNB42 SLP093 931000 8/5// P0001 60032 T00061006 10128 20006 55001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Wishful thinking on my part... but I wonder if the winds will come around more westerly late tonight once this disturbance passes to the south overnight. Winds are already turning more NW'erly upstream. Looks like the AFD agrees with me. Sunday LES gets into gear. However way too early to get excited. Im surprised the S Ohio folks aren't honking the clipper that's going to hit them later in the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 http://coolwx.com/cgi-bin/getbufr.cgi?region=OH&stn=KCMH&model=nam&time=current&field=prec.......Have to say i like this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Wow, so we're all here now. I guess this is what happens when I only post during the winter! Anyway, looks like our first decent even of the "winter" comes this weekend. I'm glad it's a clipper, we don't usually get screwed too often with clippers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Wow, so we're all here now. I guess this is what happens when I only post during the winter! Anyway, looks like our first decent even of the "winter" comes this weekend. I'm glad it's a clipper, we don't usually get screwed too often with clippers. As long as it doesn't go too far south... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 As long as it doesn't go too far south... You see this quite a bit in modelling with clippers. This is the range where they seem to start bottoming out in the southern trending then ultimately (about 48 hrs out), they tend to correct back north a bit. I really like where we are sitting right now with the model projections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 You see this quite a bit in modelling with clippers. This is the range where they seem to start bottoming out in the southern trending then ultimately (about 48 hrs out), they tend to correct back north a bit. I really like where we are sitting right now with the model projections. I was quite surprised to see the snow sticking this evening...really got me in a winter mode! Plus, Gelber is predicting 2" to 4" this weekend with the clipper. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGreens Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Have about a good 1/2 inch at least, and drivers are already having big problems on the roads tonight. Driving home I saw a fender bender and two in the ditch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 SW winds, quite possibly the most depressing wind direction for us NE Ohioans. These bands are always incredible, the gradient from snow to no snow is so tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 First measurable snow is now for here. Have picked up 1/2 inch so far. Looks like I'm in a band of les looks nice. Got me excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carumba Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 SW winds, quite possibly the most depressing wind direction for us NE Ohioans. These bands are always incredible, the gradient from snow to no snow is so tight. SW winds also have the longest fetch, no surprise their bands are incredible. I love snow as much as anyone else around here but the thought of handling 6 - 9" each day for the next few days would drive me nuts. I like rest in between my snowy periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 You see this quite a bit in modelling with clippers. This is the range where they seem to start bottoming out in the southern trending then ultimately (about 48 hrs out), they tend to correct back north a bit. I really like where we are sitting right now with the model projections. Alright, well this is my first winter in Columbus. Cincy has a good record with clippers but I remember usually being jealous of Columbus so I hope this comes back north! 0z models aren't looking great so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 The pattern looks horrible the next 2 weeks, hopefully something pops up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Alright, well this is my first winter in Columbus. Cincy has a good record with clippers but I remember usually being jealous of Columbus so I hope this comes back north! 0z models aren't looking great so far. lol...hate to say it but it looking more and more like the axis of heaviest is going to be closer to cincy than cmh on this one. Of course we're still 60 hrs out so some northeastward adjustment is always possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeSam Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I was a little surprised to see as much snow in the air yesterday as there was, and now we've got a potential accumulating clipper on the way. Awesome! I usually have to wait until January to get excited about winter. I'm likin the early pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 The pattern looks horrible the next 2 weeks, hopefully something pops up!!! I don't think anyone in the east makes it out of this blocking pattern without getting clobbered. Could be one of those deals where the block begins to relax and we have a monster storm that ushers in the end of the cold and a pattern change for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 This is the winter of super clippers and apps runners? The storm tracks have changed throughout October and November. On Thanksgiving, and in the past two days, lows have tracked through Minnesota in a similar fashion with rain in the Ohio Valley. That was a joke on my part. I have no idea what is going to happen this winter. Slow day out west? Since you are a Met, what your thoughts on the predominant storm track this winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 The last observation of light rain was at 0551z (or 12:51AM Eastern), with a temperature of 0.6 degrees C. Since then it was snow. KCLE 010551Z 26010KT 4SM -RASN BR FEW010 OVC018 01/M01 A2980 RMK AO2 SNB42 SLP093 931000 8/5// P0001 60032 T00061006 10128 20006 55001 Not that it matters... but here was the last observation of rain - 6 AM (11) Dec 0130.9 (-0.6)26.1 (-3.3)29.82 (1009)WSW 15light rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 SW winds, quite possibly the most depressing wind direction for us NE Ohioans. These bands are always incredible, the gradient from snow to no snow is so tight. Yeah, these WSW events get old. Impressive band to look at though. Our time will come beginning on Sunday and last for 4 days or more? Fetch isn't that great (short) but the moisture is. Going to be a fun week... wish I didn't have to travel to the western side of lake michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Yeah, these WSW events get old. Impressive band to look at though. Our time will come beginning on Sunday and last for 4 days or more? Fetch isn't that great (short) but the moisture is. Going to be a fun week... wish I didn't have to travel to the western side of lake michigan. I'm looking forward to first full scale lake effect potential. I'm sure there'll be some fly in the ointment though. Its good to cash in on LES early in the season while the lake has moderate temperatures. Last winter the flow was great once it iced over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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