buckeye Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Yea, unsure where buckeye got that from, no offense Buckeye. see above (i mean last page...lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 see above (i mean last page...lol) Point taken, but if you look at the simulated radar for those same hours, it looks pretty weak and similar to what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=ILN&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes time sensitive/\ this has been the frustration all season for cmh and the joy for cvg. It's amazing how we continually see the area from cincy to just southwest of columbus getting good snows over and over again. I'm not sure how much of that is exaggerated due to the proximity of ILN's radar site, but it's a killer to watch that constantly. I also think it could be skewed due to a dead radar area in nw Ohio. Closest is N. IN or Detroit but quite often returns in the findlay - lima seem too weak or often non-existent when there is light snow falling nw of cmh. Some of that is also due to lake enhancement and the geographic ridge that exists separating the miami valley and the scioto river valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 http://radar.weather...101111&loop=yes time sensitive/\ this has been the frustration all season for cmh and the joy for cvg. It's amazing how we continually see the area from cincy to just southwest of columbus getting good snows over and over again. I'm not sure how much of that is exaggerated due to the proximity of ILN's radar site, but it's a killer to watch that constantly. I also think it could be skewed due to a dead radar area in nw Ohio. Closest is N. IN or Detroit but quite often returns in the findlay - lima seem too weak or often non-existent when there is light snow falling nw of cmh. Some of that is also due to lake enhancement and the geographic ridge that exists separating the miami valley and the scioto river valley. I am about 25 miles from ILN and we have had a steady light/mod snow for about 90 minutes. I talked to my folks down in Monroe close to HAO and they said it was snowing pretty decent down there. I am headed to Pittsburgh this weekend so we'll see what we get up there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Can't ask for a better fetch than this for heavy lake effect in the CLE area. Perfect for single band development. Winds come around to an almost perfect direction around 5am and don't vary much for at least 6 hours. You can see where the winds converge over the lake pretty clearly. There are other variables to consider such as shear, and ice cover. But it doesn't get much better from a wind direction standpoint. Looks good, I might be a little far south based on that convergence. It's a weekend too, so if it misses imby, I'll just drive to the snow band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I am about 25 miles from ILN and we have had a steady light/mod snow for about 90 minutes. I talked to my folks down in Monroe close to HAO and they said it was snowing pretty decent down there. I am headed to Pittsburgh this weekend so we'll see what we get up there! 18z NAM is a lot wetter for Western PA and Central OH the next 24 hours...took PItt from like maybe .05-.1 on the 12z to I would say close to .2-.25 this run...nice little change, and maybe a surprise 2-4 event I am hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 http://radar.weather...101111&loop=yes time sensitive/\ this has been the frustration all season for cmh and the joy for cvg. It's amazing how we continually see the area from cincy to just southwest of columbus getting good snows over and over again. I'm not sure how much of that is exaggerated due to the proximity of ILN's radar site, but it's a killer to watch that constantly. I also think it could be skewed due to a dead radar area in nw Ohio. Closest is N. IN or Detroit but quite often returns in the findlay - lima seem too weak or often non-existent when there is light snow falling nw of cmh. Some of that is also due to lake enhancement and the geographic ridge that exists separating the miami valley and the scioto river valley. Cam from DAY, so it isnt exhaggerated lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 18z NAM is a lot wetter for Western PA and Central OH the next 24 hours...took PItt from like maybe .05-.1 on the 12z to I would say close to .2-.25 this run...nice little change, and maybe a surprise 2-4 event I am hoping. Yeah! It should be pretty good up that way. I love that town! Like Buckeye I am a Buckeye in reality but my heart is a Steeler LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 and it seems the heaviest snow is falling between Springfield and Dayton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Point taken, but if you look at the simulated radar for those same hours, it looks pretty weak and similar to what we have now. here's the nam 12hr sim radar someone just posted in the 18z thread....exact opposite of what you would think lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 and it seems the heaviest snow is falling between Springfield and Dayton not saying a whole lot...but it's now snowing here hardest that it's been all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 not saying a whole lot...but it's now snowing here hardest that it's been all day. I do agree the radars for certain areas are messed up somewhat, I know in my location it has been lightly snowing all day with no radar returns. Not accumulating cause it is so light, but point is it has been snowing without the radar returns. I can see the snow somewhat on the cam at I-270/SR 3 westerville rd.. Heres the link incase you dont have it. Just click webcams to the left and zoom in. you can kinda track what is headed your way http://www.buckeyetraffic.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I do agree the radars for certain areas are messed up somewhat, I know in my location it has been lightly snowing all day with no radar returns. Not accumulating cause it is so light, but point is it has been snowing without the radar returns. From ILN for my area tonight, WTF??? Tonight: Occasional snow showers, mainly before 4am. Low around 15. Light wind becoming west between 10 and 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Looks good, I might be a little far south based on that convergence. It's a weekend too, so if it misses imby, I'll just drive to the snow band. Nah. You are in a good spot. That covergence area moves south as time goes on. Worst case scenario... it won't be a long drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 LES Warnings now back up until Sunday. Considering most of the area has seen 3 - 7 inches... there should be some impressive totals. ON GOING LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT SATURDAY NIGHT GRADUALLY TAPERING OFF ON SUNDAY THOUGH SOME SNOW SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE EXTREME NE OHIO AND NW PA INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. BELIEVE THE HIGH END OF THE STORM TOTALS WILL BE AROUND 10 TO 15 INCHES. HIGH PRESSURE STARTING TO BUILD IN ON SUNDAY WILL BRING FAIR WEATHER TO WESTERN AREAS BUT LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE INTO AT LEAST EARLY MONDAY EXTREME NERN AREAS. TEMPERATURES WILL AVERAGE BELOW NORMAL THROUGH THE PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 It is just hammering in springtown. looks like they could get a couple inches. Looks like youre getting some moderate snow, that really fine stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernohio Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 got under a nice squall these past 15 min, pleasent suprise and i didnt expect snow to pick up again till late evening/overnight hrs. This snow is extremely dry and fluffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernohio Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Had a quick burst of snow down here, but didnt last more than 10 minutes. Back to flurries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 LES Warnings now back up until Sunday. Considering most of the area has seen 3 - 7 inches... there should be some impressive totals. ON GOING LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT SATURDAY NIGHT GRADUALLY TAPERING OFF ON SUNDAY THOUGH SOME SNOW SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE EXTREME NE OHIO AND NW PA INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. BELIEVE THE HIGH END OF THE STORM TOTALS WILL BE AROUND 10 TO 15 INCHES. HIGH PRESSURE STARTING TO BUILD IN ON SUNDAY WILL BRING FAIR WEATHER TO WESTERN AREAS BUT LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE INTO AT LEAST EARLY MONDAY EXTREME NERN AREAS. TEMPERATURES WILL AVERAGE BELOW NORMAL THROUGH THE PERIOD. Grab all the snow you can get now. There are some big ice chunks out on the lake now... I'd hate for this to be the last les event for a while. Once again cautiously optimistic for overnight into tomorrow. The ingredients are there, but will it materialize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincywxpro Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Getting reports in portions of Butler County in SW Ohio of 1-1.5" of snow in the area. Portions of I-275 are snow covered, leading to multiple car accidents, mainly on the Kentucky side of 275. So far with the 5 PM climate reported, Cincinnati has picked up 0.6" of snow. That observations was taken during the peak of a heavier band of snow moving through the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincywxpro Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Here's I-275, near the Cincinnati/Northern KY International Airport: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'm liking the BUF WRF 18z output Would be nice to end the snowfall deficit this winter in one fell swoop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernohio Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Trent sorry to keep asking but can you give a link to the WRF 18z output. Thanks a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Picked up about 1.5 last night. Looks like the low is right over northern ohio. Hopefully the snow increases once this moves off to the east. Not much on radar. Looking at the WRF, the winds are now forecast to be much more NW'erly than what they showed last night. I wonder if ice cover is becoming a bigger factor in limiting the snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Picked up about 1.5 last night. Looks like the low is right over northern ohio. Hopefully the snow increases once this moves off to the east. Not much on radar. Looking at the WRF, the winds are now forecast to be much more NW'erly than what they showed last night. I wonder if ice cover is becoming a bigger factor in limiting the snowfall. Just looking out the window, not much new here. I think this they may bust. The near calm winds the past 2 days has probably added a ton of ice to Lake Erie. I know that when I left work yesterday, you could see some rather large sheets of ice that weren't there the day before. Most of the water temps are in the 32-34 range, so it really doesn't take much to ice it up. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/mm/mesomodels.html The BUF wrf isn't too keen either. There were a lot of blobs of snow on the radar all last night just off shore with the SW flow. Such a shame, they were almost stationary. Had a few of those been able to graze the coast, some areas would have had 6-10" this morning, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeSam Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Almost 3". Not bad considering it wasn't really forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Just looking out the window, not much new here. I think this they may bust. The near calm winds the past 2 days has probably added a ton of ice to Lake Erie. I know that when I left work yesterday, you could see some rather large sheets of ice that weren't there the day before. Most of the water temps are in the 32-34 range, so it really doesn't take much to ice it up. http://www.erh.noaa....mesomodels.html The BUF wrf isn't too keen either. There were a lot of blobs of snow on the radar all last night just off shore with the SW flow. Such a shame, they were almost stationary. Had a few of those been able to graze the coast, some areas would have had 6-10" this morning, no problem. Lake effect season has essentially ended. The lake has iced over. It's pretty evident where the open water is based on the radar returns. All we needed was another day or two of open water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Euro has over .3" of QPF for this coming storm at CMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Lake effect season has essentially ended. The lake has iced over. It's pretty evident where the open water is based on the radar returns. All we needed was another day or two of open water Yep. Such a shame. Kind of a dud here for 3 day's worth of snow. As I predicted a few days ago, CLE will probably end up with between 7-8" over the 4 day total, but snow depth is just a meager 2 inches. Also, what's up with the expansion of an advisory for Lorain and Medina? There's virtually nothing on the radar for Medina, and just a few blobs around parts of Lorain. This would probably be really hard to look up, but this has got be a record for the latest first all encompassing system snow for NE Ohio. The Tuesday storm is looking a lot juicier now, perhaps .15" of QPF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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