blackngoldrules Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 All of this mutual understanding has made me wax poetic.... Digger's Ode to Snowfall Oh, snowfall... Gentle, silent, a blanket of pristine, crystalline, virginal white... You suck. No. Really. You &^%$# suck. You've always had a way with words! Hey, shouldn't you be rooting for a storm now since you bought that pump for your plow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Hey, shouldn't you be rooting for a storm now since you bought that pump for your plow? Oh, I dunno. Don't they still have those places where they pay you to donate blood, or plasma, or something? I could do that... (I kinda like those two guys with the axes.) You've always had a way with words! Thanks. You know, poetry isn't all that difficult, when it comes from the heart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Oh, I dunno. Don't they still have those places where they pay you to donate blood, or plasma, or something? I could do that... Don't ever say I've never helped you out! http://www.ehow.com/how_2195131_earn-month-donating-plasma.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherman5416 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 what if a blizzard warning could be issued for strong wind/blowing snow, they did that in Illinois and Iowa for 2-4 inches of snow The difference here is that in the watch they specifically say gusts will only reach 30 mph here as opposed to in Illinois where they are going to be getting 40-50 mph gusts. I will admit that I think 30 mph gusts is a little on the conservative side considering the strength of the storm and how close it is going to be passing to here. That being said, I highly doubt they will issue a blizzard warning. Right now, I think anywhere north of beaver, butler, armstrong, and Indiana will have winter storm warnings and counties south will have a winter weather advisory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherman5416 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'm getting some pretty good sleet right now, is anyone else experiencing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'm getting some pretty good sleet right now, is anyone else experiencing this? Judging by the radar, it looks like you'll see a brief period of sleet or a mixed bag of precip before the rain and warmer air takes over your area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'm starting to think they go with a warning.....gfs and nam both push the freezing line through pretty fast while there is still some good precip in the area. Nam I would say put .3.-..5 of synoptic snow while gfs is in the .3 range. They are also very bullish on the les, and in northern agc they feel comfortable with a 3-5 I think over the watch period. I think they might go with a warnig pitts north for 5-9 total and an advisory south. Remember though...bitter cold, high ratios, and strong winds will all factor in. I do think some areas will see near whiteout conditions at times Monday and Monday night. My call. Pittsburgh south. 3-5 Northern allegheny to butler 4-8. Butler to 80 6-12. Ridges obviosly more 8-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITblizz Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'm starting to think they go with a warning.....gfs and nam both push the freezing line through pretty fast while there is still some good precip in the area. Nam I would say put .3.-..5 of synoptic snow while gfs is in the .3 range. They are also very bullish on the les, and in northern agc they feel comfortable with a 3-5 I think over the watch period. I think they might go with a warnig pitts north for 5-9 total and an advisory south. Remember though...bitter cold, high ratios, and strong winds will all factor in. I do think some areas will see near whiteout conditions at times Monday and Monday night. My call. Pittsburgh south. 3-5 Northern allegheny to butler 4-8. Butler to 80 6-12. Ridges obviosly more 8-16 I agree with this mostly. Especially the problems the winds could cause. I'm assuming you didn't even include les. I have a feeling we might get an advisory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITblizz Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 The HRRR ( high res rapid refresh) which runs hourly, is showing good anticipated reflections after the 0c line passes. I really think we do well with les too. Ratios will also be good, combined with high winds it could get pretty nasty out there be careful. Some images from hrrr 850's through area at 9 hrs radar from about 8 hrs on Theres more but i don't wanna clog the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I disagree with the nws on this one...saying that 0c line progged to cross area around 21c but I see the ruc and nam moving it through well before that. I know there will be lower layer issues at first with temps, but I don't understand the near 6 hour gap they have... My totals do include les, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwg8tr0514 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I disagree with the nws on this one...saying that 0c line progged to cross area around 21c but I see the ruc and nam moving it through well before that. I know there will be lower layer issues at first with temps, but I don't understand the near 6 hour gap they have... My totals do include les, by the way. Radar looks very juicy this AM, filling in from Eastern Iowa through the Philly. The freezing line creeping east from about Mansfield,Oh. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Snow with 0 vis in Columbus. Thinking we change over by 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share Posted December 12, 2010 WOULD EXPECT TO SEE A COUPLE HOURS OF SNOW ONCE THE CHANGE HAPPENS, HOWEVER STILL MANY QUESTIONS ON ACCUMULATIONS. THE PROBLEMS FOR DETERMINING ACCUMULATIONS ARE TWO-FOLD. FIRST SFC TEMPS WILL BE FALLING, BUT SHOULD REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING AFTER THE CHANGE TO SNOW, ADDITIONALLY A LARGE DRY-SLOT WILL MOVE INTO THE REGION BEHIND THE SFC FRONT WHICH WILL GREATLY REDUCE PRECIPITATION. BECAUSE OF THESE 2 FACTORS DO NOT THINK THAT HEADLINE CRITERIA WILL BE REACHED WITH THE SYSTEM TODAY. EXPECT TO SEE POSSIBLY AN INCH AT MOST LOCATIONS TODAY, WITH SLIGHTLY HIGHER AMOUNTS OVER PORTIONS OF MY FAR WESTERN ZONES AND THE RIDGES. NWS pretty bearish on synoptic snow accumulations. If they are correct looks we will have to rely mainly on LES to kick in after midnight.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Again, I'm probably wrong, but I really don't agree... Dry slot looks tone filling in, and I think we have several hours of at least mod snow that could put down 1-3 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pittsburgh Rants Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 WOULD EXPECT TO SEE A COUPLE HOURS OF SNOW ONCE THE CHANGE HAPPENS, HOWEVER STILL MANY QUESTIONS ON ACCUMULATIONS. THE PROBLEMS FOR DETERMINING ACCUMULATIONS ARE TWO-FOLD. FIRST SFC TEMPS WILL BE FALLING, BUT SHOULD REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING AFTER THE CHANGE TO SNOW, ADDITIONALLY A LARGE DRY-SLOT WILL MOVE INTO THE REGION BEHIND THE SFC FRONT WHICH WILL GREATLY REDUCE PRECIPITATION. BECAUSE OF THESE 2 FACTORS DO NOT THINK THAT HEADLINE CRITERIA WILL BE REACHED WITH THE SYSTEM TODAY. EXPECT TO SEE POSSIBLY AN INCH AT MOST LOCATIONS TODAY, WITH SLIGHTLY HIGHER AMOUNTS OVER PORTIONS OF MY FAR WESTERN ZONES AND THE RIDGES. NWS pretty bearish on synoptic snow accumulations. If they are correct looks we will have to rely mainly on LES to kick in after midnight.. NWS is hitting this great so far.. They said switch over between 2 and 4 and they look to be on. Temps out in Ohio were still above freezing at most location. Zanesville was at 40 when I checked about an hour ago. Looking at Ohio Cams, not much is sticking. Think alot of locations will see the accumulating stuff tomorrow afternoon-evening. I got up to 46 yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 33 and moderate snow in zanesville. I think we see 1-3 still this afternoon and tonight..3-5 from les in my area north of pitts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pittsburgh Rants Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 33 and moderate snow in zanesville. I think we see 1-3 still this afternoon and tonight..3-5 from les in my area north of pitts How much of that "moderate snow" is sticking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pittsburgh Rants Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Liverpool looks like its raining.. http://www.instacam.com/showcam.asp?id=ELVRP&size=S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 How much of that "moderate snow" is sticking? How would I know? It's sticking in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pittsburgh Rants Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I am predicting between Tuesday and Wednesday some areas will see between a dusting and 16" of snow. I am sticking to this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Liverpool looks like its raining.. http://www.instacam.com/showcam.asp?id=ELVRP&size=S What's your point? Liverpool is like at least 50 miles east of zanesville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 You two really need to chill out before you ruin this thread for us that actually like to talk weather. The last half page of posts should be deleted. You are correct..and I apologize. I just don't enjoy when someone gets on here and criticizes me for simply having a different opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Back to the weather... My temp has fallen about a degree in the last 20 mins. They should start crashing soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psnnstater77 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Looks like a hole is forming down around Greene county.. Precip is breaking up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Canton has changed over... I say in the next hour we change to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Looks like a hole is forming down around Greene county.. Precip is breaking up a bit. Yeah... Not sure if theprecip in oh is going to pivot into western pa or slide north.nws has upped my totals overnight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psnnstater77 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psnnstater77 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Getting peeks of sunshine here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psnnstater77 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Dry slot wins.. We may not see snow til later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northpittweather Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Dry slot wins.. We may not see snow til later. I am still sticking with 4-8+ inch totals The Lake Effect is a part of the storm with some connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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