MN Transplant Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Not really a question at this point. Prior top 10 Julys:1991 81.4 1995 81.5 1994 81.8 1988 81.9 1955 82.1 1980 82.3 1987 82.6 1999 83.0 1993 83.1 2010 83.1 Through the 27th, DCA stands at 83.8. Using this morning's low, and NWS point and click results in a July temp of 84.2. GFS MOS would be lower (83.9), but the low temperatures are unreasonable. Either way, an amazing July, besting last year handily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 High temps this month will likely average either 93.1 or 93.0. The previous record was 92.8 in 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Should also be the hottest month nationally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Should also be the hottest month nationally I was wondering about that. Would be impressive to take down 1936 if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 22 90+ days now. No more "not as bad as 2010!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Should also be the hottest month nationally Should be close. Only thing that might prevent it is the cool temps in the far West, which July 1936 didn't have. The area of extreme anomalies (+6 and higher) is also smaller this month. Are IAD, BWI and other area stations also going to set the record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Should be close. Only thing that might prevent it is the cool temps in the far West, which July 1936 didn't have. The area of extreme anomalies (+6 and higher) is also smaller this month. If not by anomaly, certainly by PWCDDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Should be close. Only thing that might prevent it is the cool temps in the far West, which July 1936 didn't have. The area of extreme anomalies (+6 and higher) is also smaller this month. Are IAD, BWI and other area stations also going to set the record? BWI is currently 81.3 and the record is 81.5. BWI will probably tie or set a new record. IAD is currently 80.4 and the record is 79.4. IAD will certainly set the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Should be close. Only thing that might prevent it is the cool temps in the far West, which July 1936 didn't have. The area of extreme anomalies (+6 and higher) is also smaller this month. Are IAD, BWI and other area stations also going to set the record? 1936 had such an absurd area of anomalies in the Upper Plains. The area of +2 is probably slightly larger this year, though. Hard to really tell, but I'd just guess that '36 will remain, and '11 will duke it out with '06 for 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 lol... the majority of the U.S. population wasn't even touched by the 1936 July heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 1936 had such an absurd area of anomalies in the Upper Plains. The area of +2 is probably slightly larger this year, though. Hard to really tell, but I'd just guess that '36 will remain, and '11 will duke it out with '06 for 2nd. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 lol... the majority of the U.S. population wasn't even touched by the 1936 July heat. Sure, and you could make the same argument about 2006. But from a climatological perspective, national anomalies matter more than population affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 But from a climatological perspective, national anomalies matter more than population affected. I'm quite aware of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'm quite aware of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 If you want to have fun set up a scenario where we don't get the record. It's like d8 GFS snowbomb fantasy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I think we have gotten to the point that for Balt/Wash area 90 or more is normal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarck Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I think we have gotten to the point that for Balt/Wash area 9095 or more is normal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Yes, I may have understated 90-95 is the new normal high these days!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 July: 84.5 (+4.7) at DCA with an avg high of 93.6 (+5.2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 July: 84.5 (+4.7) at DCA with an avg high of 93.6 (+5.2). Obliterated. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I had +4.5 IMBY. LAst July was +3.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I had +4.5 IMBY. LAst July was +3.7. I was hotter last year. The wetness here probably made the difference, as last year was bone-dry. July 2010: Mean temp 77.9 July 2011: 76.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 Nice writeup in the Post today, Jason and Ian. edit for link - http://www.washingto...TzlI_story.html and Drudge-ified! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Nice writeup in the Post today, Jason and Ian. edit for link - http://www.washingto...TzlI_story.html and Drudge-ified! thx. pretty much all jason but ill take credit whenever asked. on a side note this is one weird graphic (the daily temp one) http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/how-hot-was-it/2011/07/31/gIQA38H7lI_graphic.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 thx. pretty much all jason but ill take credit whenever asked. on a side note this is one weird graphic (the daily temp one) http://www.washingto...lI_graphic.html Love the chart on the right. I long for the early 2000s Julys. Not sure the attached column option was the best one to use on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Love the chart on the right. I long for the early 2000s Julys. Not sure the attached column option was the best one to use on the left. I guess I don't know design. It looks like a scrabble board or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snownut Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I was hotter last year. The wetness here probably made the difference, as last year was bone-dry. July 2010: Mean temp 77.9 July 2011: 76.5 Opposite for me, cooler and wetter last year. July 2010 73.8 / 3.58 July 2011 74.8 / 2.29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 here's more on July in D.C. -- some similar to earlier link from MN Transplant but Matt Rogers also goes into the specific reasons this yr that helped cause http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/july-2011-the-hottest-month-in-washington-dc-history/2011/07/31/gIQAd8rOnI_blog.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Why did the NWS describe it as "interesting" that Baltimore had its hottest month on record but overnight lows were only 24th warmest on record for the month? It shouldn't be too surprising considering the records were taken downtown on the roof of the Customs House until 1950. So a lot of the minimum temperatures records from that era were probably contaminated by UHI and artifically raised. Look at how much warmer it was at the Science Center than BWI (and that's not even a rooftop station, which Watts et al. have shown can raise temps by up to 10 degrees compared to ground-based readings). A better option would be to just look at max temps and I'm sure this month probably smashed the record there (it would have had to to display the pattern described, i.e. hottest mean temp but only 24th hottest low temp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 here's more on July in D.C. -- some similar to earlier link from MN Transplant but Matt Rogers also goes into the specific reasons this yr that helped cause http://www.washingto...8rOnI_blog.html Nice write-up. One additional noteworthy fact: On July 23, 2011, the average temperature at DCA was 93.0 (102 high, 84 low), tying the all-time record high average for any day in DC history set on July 6, 1999 (103 high, 83 low). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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