HoarfrostHubb Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Maybe Pete can cut you some of his hair... That would be a good repellent Seriously, human hair can supposedly repel some pests. Prob not raccoons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Sorry I'm not a hunter. I should send my redneck cousins from western NY down. LOL Maybe there is some scent that raccoons really hate. I bought some stuff at Agway that supposedly repels rabbits. I am going to sprinkle peppercorns and red peppers tonight. I think the only real solution, however, is to dig a huge trough and bury the fence in that, not allowing anything to slip underneath. This is going to be a huge project, but it might be the only way to save the garden because the raccoon is wreaking absolute havoc. I have worked so hard on the garden, and spent a lot of money on it, so this is very upsetting to me. I have had a massive struggle with animals this year, don't know if the dry weather has withered away their normal vegetation, but I've never seen them go after my garden so much. Generally, nothing inside the big fence gets chewed, and only a few things outside are touched. This year, it is open season. And Zucker, my iPod did an auto correct for your name. No offense made. I don't know what there is for rental property there though. I would consider moving to Jaffrey if I don't move to the Conway area (when I am old like Pete and Steve) All my friends in HS used to kid me about my last name...S*cker and F*cker weren't exactly uncommon nicknames. I preferred Nate-Dawg. I am lucky I don't have to worry about renting, the school will take care of the lodging and amenities for me since the salary is not that high. $20,000 per year is still way more than I make subbing and delivering though, and I can still work the summer if need be. So we'll see where this goes, don't want to get my hopes up but would love to get some teaching experience before deciding about pursuing certification, and would love to live away from home in a beautiful, natural area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Yeah, I missed the line about am apartment and meals. Good deal to start. I can't believe this will be my 12th year of teaching. Crazy job. The 'Nads always do well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 30, 2011 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 I am going to sprinkle peppercorns and red peppers tonight. I think the only real solution, however, is to dig a huge trough and bury the fence in that, not allowing anything to slip underneath. This is going to be a huge project, but it might be the only way to save the garden because the raccoon is wreaking absolute havoc. I have worked so hard on the garden, and spent a lot of money on it, so this is very upsetting to me. I have had a massive struggle with animals this year, don't know if the dry weather has withered away their normal vegetation, but I've never seen them go after my garden so much. Generally, nothing inside the big fence gets chewed, and only a few things outside are touched. This year, it is open season. All my friends in HS used to kid me about my last name...S*cker and F*cker weren't exactly uncommon nicknames. I preferred Nate-Dawg. I am lucky I don't have to worry about renting, the school will take care of the lodging and amenities for me since the salary is not that high. $20,000 per year is still way more than I make subbing and delivering though, and I can still work the summer if need be. So we'll see where this goes, don't want to get my hopes up but would love to get some teaching experience before deciding about pursuing certification, and would love to live away from home in a beautiful, natural area. Dude, go for it, housing, food would be about 10 k , 30k to start is awesome Hav a hart trap with peanut butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 30, 2011 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 Tropical dudes crying in their soup, poof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Once you trap em what can you do? Drive him to the boonies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 When I was a teenager (circa 1984 i think) I raised chickens and sold eggs to neighbors. One night a raccoon massacred my coop and I found a bloody war zone in the morning.... Wiped out about 1/3 of my flock.... After that we had to fortify the whole thing so they couldn't get in. Up here we have so much space between homes that the wild animals don't really need to live near people. Rabbits are my main nemesis. Maybe Pete can cut you some of his hair... That would be a good repellent Seriously, human hair can supposedly repel some pests. Prob not raccoons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Yeah, I missed the line about am apartment and meals. Good deal to start. I can't believe this will be my 12th year of teaching. Crazy job. The 'Nads always do well Yeah I mean eventually I am going to switch to public schools for the salary/benefits if teaching works out for me, but I need to get some experience on my resume, and this isn't a bad offer considering everything is included. I would hate to drop 20k on certification and then have nothing on my resume, making it impossible to get a job at a good public school. I applied to both NYC Teaching Fellows and Chicago Teaching Fellows, but was accepted to neither program; they weren't really looking to bring on many new language people, mostly just a few experts in special education. Those programs would have given me a nice start in a public school, but this is a decent alternative. My mom has been a lifelong French teacher and does very well at Mt. Vernon HS, which is located on the Westchester-Bronx border...the district is tough, but she earns over 105k/yr plus benefits, always surprises me how well the state treats you if you are a long-term teacher. She's 61 and getting ready to retire with good health insurance and a generous pension. Don't have to worry about those things yet but definitely looking for a stable career that doesn't require me to move too much and allows for some job security. Dave, how did you go from hazardous waste removal to teaching? What are the lessons you've learned, and what is the biggest advice you'd have for a young, novice teacher like me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I didn't mean a have a heart trap. I wouldn't want to handle a live raccoon..things can be vicious (see above), and then there is always rabies. Once you trap em what can you do? Drive him to the boonies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I didn't mean a have a heart trap. I wouldn't want to handle a live raccoon..things can be vicious (see above), and then there is always rabies. Can you get a trap that kills the raccoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Bow Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Dude, go for it, housing, food would be about 10 k , 30k to start is awesome Hav a hart trap with peanut butter. I used to do pest control as a job for about 4 years and in that time not once did I have any luck catching Racoons. PB in a havahart worked great for squirrels and occasionaly skunks but they prefer tuna or canned cat food. But those damn Racoons are pretty smart. I tried salads from Mc Donalds, cat food, PB and I'm sure several other things. Good luck to him I think the idea with the trench and burying the fence would be the best bet but it never hurts to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Yes public school teachers in NY do quite well and our property taxes show it ..... Westchester is the highest in the nation I believe. My Mom retired from teaching in 2003 after many years (reading lab)...... Yeah I mean eventually I am going to switch to public schools for the salary/benefits if teaching works out for me, but I need to get some experience on my resume, and this isn't a bad offer considering everything is included. I would hate to drop 20k on certification and then have nothing on my resume, making it impossible to get a job at a good public school. I applied to both NYC Teaching Fellows and Chicago Teaching Fellows, but was accepted to neither program; they weren't really looking to bring on many new language people, mostly just a few experts in special education. Those programs would have given me a nice start in a public school, but this is a decent alternative. My mom has been a lifelong French teacher and does very well at Mt. Vernon HS, which is located on the Westchester-Bronx border...the district is tough, but she earns over 105k/yr plus benefits, always surprises me how well the state treats you if you are a long-term teacher. She's 61 and getting ready to retire with good health insurance and a generous pension. Don't have to worry about those things yet but definitely looking for a stable career that doesn't require me to move too much and allows for some job security. Dave, how did you go from hazardous waste removal to teaching? What are the lessons you've learned, and what is the biggest advice you'd have for a young, novice teacher like me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I used to do pest control as a job for about 4 years and in that time not once did I have any luck catching Racoons. PB in a havahart worked great for squirrels and occasionaly skunks but they prefer tuna or canned cat food. But those damn Racoons are pretty smart. I tried salads from Mc Donalds, cat food, PB and I'm sure several other things. Good luck to him I think the idea with the trench and burying the fence would be the best bet but it never hurts to try. Unfortunately he's already gotten a bunch of this year's garden...devoured 4 cauliflower plants, parts of 2 eggplants, and knocked a few tomatoes off the vines. The animals are just crazy around the garden, squirrels are climbing into potted tomatoes on the picnic table and taking bites of the fruits. It's really frustrating. I weighed down the garden extremely well with rocks but I watched him squeeze his lithe body through a tiny opening the next morning...I don't think additional stones will do the trick. I need to completely redesign the garden with a buried fence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Wow, your mom does really well. I think our district maxes at $70k or so. For the switch I took a few classes, took the MTEL and got my provisional cert., one interview and got a job. I was really lucky. A coworker of mine had 25 interviews before landing a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Why does it always seem like the trough is seven days away this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Bow Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Once you trap em what can you do? Drive him to the boonies? Yeah that's what I would always do. But sometimes the boss would make me bring em back to the shop and he would give them the vacuum cleaner hose to the tailpipe trick. I would never take part in that myself but sometimes there wasn't enough time to bring them twenty miles away from the city and release them. Used to release my chipmunks up in northern Connecticut though, a little place called Tolland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Well I assume because hunters do kill them that way for the pelts - and have historically from the 1600's in NY, but I have no idea about the particulars. Can you get a trap that kills the raccoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 30, 2011 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 Once you trap em what can you do? Drive him to the boonies? Time for my trapping raccoons story. So I am living on a farm with a coop garden, raccoons decimate the corn. I get a hav a hart, can not catch any. One day I am bringing out the trash at night , drop a ****ty diaper. The next morning it's shredded, umm new idea. Catch 14 coons, bring them 5 miles away to the dump. Sitting on my deck days later, coon dog runs by, next, dude walks up my driveway with a broken down shotgun looking for his dog. We talk, laugh like hell, he has been trapping coons at the dump and bringing to his land behind ours. I was giving the fookin things rides. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 As far as lessons learned, the kids are awesome, never underestimate how weird people can be, there is no money for supplies, adults can make things crazy, and use the bathroom whenever you get a chance. And pack a lunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Bow Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Unfortunately he's already gotten a bunch of this year's garden...devoured 4 cauliflower plants, parts of 2 eggplants, and knocked a few tomatoes off the vines. The animals are just crazy around the garden, squirrels are climbing into potted tomatoes on the picnic table and taking bites of the fruits. It's really frustrating. I weighed down the garden extremely well with rocks but I watched him squeeze his lithe body through a tiny opening the next morning...I don't think additional stones will do the trick. I need to completely redesign the garden with a buried fence. I agree that is your best bet. Theres this product called Repels-all that I had tried a few times. It has all sorts of irritating ingredients in it, another one is called Critter-Ritter. And they sell both of them at lowes/home depot. I believe Agway too, not sure if they have those out in your area or not. Might be worth a try for under ten bucks instead of all the labor that goes into redesigning the garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 30, 2011 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 I used to do pest control as a job for about 4 years and in that time not once did I have any luck catching Racoons. PB in a havahart worked great for squirrels and occasionaly skunks but they prefer tuna or canned cat food. But those damn Racoons are pretty smart. I tried salads from Mc Donalds, cat food, PB and I'm sure several other things. Good luck to him I think the idea with the trench and burying the fence would be the best bet but it never hurts to try. See my story above crappy diapers FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Wow, your mom does really well. I think our district maxes at $70k or so. For the switch I took a few classes, took the MTEL and got my provisional cert., one interview and got a job. I was really lucky. A coworker of mine had 25 interviews before landing a job. Did you do your Masters while teaching? I don't have my Masters yet but am seriously thinking about starting the courses soon. All I have is a B.A. in Spanish and French, which isn't getting me that many job offers despite that I graduated a good college like Middlebury summa cum laude. The glut of liberal arts candidates in an economy needing more scientists/engineers is a serious structural problem, and teaching jobs are in short supply here because of NYC lay-offs. I had been pretty dejected about the job search until this interview. I really don't want to go back to subbing for $85/day...I hope I can make this move successfully. Might be loading up the old Mazda Protege in a few weeks. Yes, my mom does extremely well. She's only taught in NY State 14 years and already makes like 105k. She would be making more but her school can't agree to a contract with the union because of budgetary problems. Mount Vernon's pay scale isn't even considered that high compared to the rest of Westchester...experienced teachers at the real top districts like Edgemont and Scarsdale are making like 125k/year. Living expenses are insanely high here though...my parents paid $220,000 for our house in 1998, and it's only 1200 sq ft. with 1 bathroom and 2 small bedrooms. My mom used to teach at Edgemont but tired of the parent pressure...Mount Vernon has its problems with attendance and crime, but at least she is free to do as she pleases. She also has a lot of Haitian students, which is nice for someone fluent in French, gets her some practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Bow Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Time for my trapping raccoons story. So I am living on a farm with a coop garden, raccoons decimate the corn. I get a hav a hart, can not catch any. One day I am bringing out the trash at night , drop a ****ty diaper. The next morning it's shredded, umm new idea. Catch 14 coons, bring them 5 miles away to the dump. Sitting on my deck days later, coon dog runs by, next, dude walks up my driveway with a broken down shotgun looking for his dog. We talk, laugh like hell, he has been trapping coons at the dump and bringing to his land behind ours. I was giving the fookin things rides. True story. I think I remember you telling that before, sounds familiar. Never tried the soiled diaper before but it sounds logical, nothing else ever seemed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 You picked the wrong state t teach in. LOL In my Mom's ex district Saugerties, NY ...the longest serving teachers are in the 100-110k range... Property taxes are running around $4000 for a $100k house. So many people are over $10,000 a year in property taxes (school + town/county). This is slowly sucking the life out of Upstate NY. quote name='HubbDave' timestamp='1311991211' post='846063'] Wow, your mom does really well. I think our district maxes at $70k or so. For the switch I took a few classes, took the MTEL and got my provisional cert., one interview and got a job. I was really lucky. A coworker of mine had 25 interviews before landing a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I agree that is your best bet. Theres this product called Repels-all that I had tried a few times. It has all sorts of irritating ingredients in it, another one is called Critter-Ritter. And they sell both of them at lowes/home depot. I believe Agway too, not sure if they have those out in your area or not. Might be worth a try for under ten bucks instead of all the labor that goes into redesigning the garden. Is that organic or nasty chemicals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 That story was awesome Ginx! I think you told it before??? Pedroias streak appears over. Raining steady here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 30, 2011 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 I think I remember you telling that before, sounds familiar. Never tried the soiled diaper before but it sounds logical, nothing else ever seemed to work. Yep posted it before, they love S H I T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Bow Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Is that organic or nasty chemicals? No chemicals its all food-type ingredients. All of them are listed on the side of the container. I wouldn't advocate anybody dumping chemicals right next to their vegetable garden. All organic in mine at home. Home made compost. My cukes and tomatoes and such will never know the taste of Miracle grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Bow Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Yep posted it before, they love S H I T Lmao... I wish i had a chance to try that one out when I was trying to get them out of the retirement communities dumpster. Although come to think of it that's probably why they were in the dumpster to begin with. Feasting on Depends and Assures.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 30, 2011 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 Why does it always seem like the trough is seven days away this summer? We have been troughy all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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