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Any word from NWS re tornado survey?

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NOUS41 KBOX 271911

PNSBOX

CTZ002>004-MAZ002>024-026-NHZ011-012-015-RIZ001>008-272315-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA

311 PM EDT WED JUL 27 2011

...NWS METEOROLOGISTS ARE CURRENTLY SURVEYING STORM DAMAGE NEAR

WILBRAHAM IN HAMPDEN COUNTY MASSACHUSETTS...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE IN TAUNTON MA IS CURRENTLY

CONDUCTING A STORM SURVEY FOR THE WILBRAHAM AND SPRINGFIELD AREAS IN

HAMPDEN COUNTY MASSACHUSETTS. THE SURVEY IS IN RELATION TO THE

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THAT MOVED THROUGH THE AREA ON JULY 26 2011.

PRELIMINARY SURVEY CONCLUSIONS INDICATE THAT DAMAGE IN THESE AREAS

WAS THE RESULT OF STRAIGHT LINE WINDS OR A MICROBURST.

A FINAL ASSESSMENT INCLUDING RESULTS OF THE SURVEY ARE EXPECTED TO

BE COMPLETED AND TRANSMITTED VIA A PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

BY 6 PM.

IT WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE...WHICH CAN BE FOUND AT

WEATHER.GOV/BOX.

$$

RLG

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Ginx, on 27 July 2011 - 01:23 PM, said:

I did several times, check back. Caling me an idiot etc. was/is over the edge. I could have called you one yesterday with your assertion the GTG in the storm yesterday was stronger than 6/1 but I refrained. Tired of your whiny BS. Great storm in CT, enjoyed it much.

'Typhoon Tip'

I never even said that... You're just full of biases aren't you - you think something, then you can't see it for reality - you see it through filters.

Gate to gate is more impressive than June 1 from KTAN. Wonder what the other rad sources look like -

My bias filter.....

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Ginx, on 27 July 2011 - 01:23 PM, said:

I did several times, check back. Caling me an idiot etc. was/is over the edge. I could have called you one yesterday with your assertion the GTG in the storm yesterday was stronger than 6/1 but I refrained. Tired of your whiny BS. Great storm in CT, enjoyed it much.

'Typhoon Tip'

I never even said that... You're just full of biases aren't you - you think something, then you can't see it for reality - you see it through filters.

My bias filter.....

I'm starting to wonder about you ...

"Gate to gate is more impressive than June 1 from KTAN. Wonder what the other rad sources look like -"

How does that state that yesterday was more intense than June 1?

It doesn't - that's your filter. You want to interpret that, that way.

What it says is, the RADAR return is more impressive FROM KTAN - nothing else.

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I'm starting to wonder about you ...

"Gate to gate is more impressive than June 1 from KTAN. Wonder what the other rad sources look like -"

How does that state that yesterday was more intense than June 1?

It doesn't - that's your filter. You want to interpret that, that way.

What it says is, the RADAR return is more impressive FROM KTAN - nothing else.

Semantics and you fookin know it, done with you, just done. Now I have a real filter on, bye.

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looks like a little bump above normal fri-sun but overall near / slightly above normal pattern. biggest anomalies seem to be focused over the mid-atlantic...and of course over the plains.

just slightly high heights over the north atlantic/greenland coming up:

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Wouldn't shock me if a few more cool fropas took place, either. That's a pretty impressive -AO signal there. The NAO counter part appears to be somewhat easterly biased; otherwise we'd be getting autumnal with that kind of high latitude blocking. Notice also the vortex nodes hanging around the hemisphere like a pearl necklace. Let us hope that happens in December! woot woot

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Semantics and you fookin know it, done with you, just done. Now I have a real filter on, bye.

You are full of crap, man. There's no semantics about it. You flat our miss-interpret - and do this frequently - and then blame me?

This is your problem. Your miss use of the recurv theory included - it's all your problem.

Get a clue.

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000

NOUS41 KBOX 271911

PNSBOX

CTZ002>004-MAZ002>024-026-NHZ011-012-015-RIZ001>008-272315-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA

311 PM EDT WED JUL 27 2011

...NWS METEOROLOGISTS ARE CURRENTLY SURVEYING STORM DAMAGE NEAR

WILBRAHAM IN HAMPDEN COUNTY MASSACHUSETTS...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE IN TAUNTON MA IS CURRENTLY

CONDUCTING A STORM SURVEY FOR THE WILBRAHAM AND SPRINGFIELD AREAS IN

HAMPDEN COUNTY MASSACHUSETTS. THE SURVEY IS IN RELATION TO THE

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THAT MOVED THROUGH THE AREA ON JULY 26 2011.

PRELIMINARY SURVEY CONCLUSIONS INDICATE THAT DAMAGE IN THESE AREAS

WAS THE RESULT OF STRAIGHT LINE WINDS OR A MICROBURST.

A FINAL ASSESSMENT INCLUDING RESULTS OF THE SURVEY ARE EXPECTED TO

BE COMPLETED AND TRANSMITTED VIA A PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

BY 6 PM.

IT WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE...WHICH CAN BE FOUND AT

WEATHER.GOV/BOX.

$$

RLG

From the latest pns it looks like straight line winds since no tornado is mentioned

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67/59, a high of 74 (71@ 2k), Just a beautiful day to work outside, felt like a September day. Very impressive tree damage from PSF to Hinsdale and points ESE. We've had a good slug of rain here the last few days. Everything still lush and verdant. Another 45 days and the growing season will come to an end. Perfect.

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From what I read they are using the existing towers and will work on it during the fall. Not sure why not in the summer. I keep meaning to call them or drive over...

Should move some of the folks away from the summit or mid chair...

Sunday River is calling...I gotta go north this winter.

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Dave, I have a client that we built a house for that had this tagh lift put in last summer for his kids.He even bought a sno-cat. Looks like the same vert drop as Wachusett, actually I think his place is bigger.

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Wow, what a torch. Yawn. It's ovah.

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Patchy

Fog

Lo 55 °FThursday

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Showers

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Chance

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Hi 74 °FFriday

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Slight Chc

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Lo 63 °FSaturday

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Hi 82 °FSaturday

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Hi 80 °FSunday

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Here's the PNS with the determination:

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA

705 PM EDT WED JUL 27 2011

...NWS METEOROLOGISTS CONDUCTED A SURVEY OF STORM DAMAGE FROM

HOLYOKE TO WILBRAHAM IN HAMPDEN COUNTY MASSACHUSETTS...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE IN TAUNTON MA CONDUCTED A STORM

SURVEY FOR THE WILBRAHAM AND SPRINGFIELD AREAS IN HAMPDEN COUNTY

MASSACHUSETTS. THIS SURVEY WAS IN RELATION TO THE SEVERE

THUNDERSTORMS THAT MOVED THROUGH WESTERN MASSACHUSETTS DURING THE

AFTERNOON OF JULY 26 2011.

THE GREATEST CONCENTRATION OF WIND DAMAGE WAS FOUND IN THE TOWN OF

WILBRAHAM. THE GREATEST DAMAGE WAS ALONG AN APPROXIMATELY 2 MILE

LONG PATH WHICH EXTENDED FROM JUST NORTH OF SPRINGFIELD

STREET...ACROSS THE COUNTRY CLUB OF WILBRAHAM...ACROSS FEDERAL LANE

TO JUST BEYOND TINKHAM ROAD. BASED ON TREE DAMAGE...THE STRONGEST

WINDS WERE ESTIMATED TO BE BETWEEN 90 AND 100 MPH. THE WIDTH OF THE

STRONGEST WINDS AVERAGED APPROXIMATELY 250 YARDS...UP TO A MAXIMUM

WIDTH OF 600 YARDS ALONG SPRINGFIELD ROAD. BEYOND THIS CORE OF

STRONGEST WINDS...MODERATE TREE DAMAGE EXTENDED OUT TO AN AVERAGE

WIDTH OF JUST OVER A HALF A MILE.

OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA OF EXTENSIVE DAMAGE IN WILBRAHAM THE TREE

DAMAGE WAS ISOLATED IN NATURE AND ONLY INVOLVED A FEW TREES AT ANY

ONE LOCATION. THIS INCLUDES AREAS OF SPRINGFIELD...CHICOPEE AND

HOLYOKE AS WELL AS WILBRAHAM OUTSIDE OF THE MAIN DAMAGE PATH. TREE

DAMAGE IN THESE ISOLATED LOCATIONS INDICATED WIND SPEEDS OF 55 TO 65

MPH.

THIS STATEMENT WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE...WHICH CAN BE

FOUND AT WEATHER.GOV/BOX. IT WILL BE LINKED AS THE LATEST PUBLIC

INFORMATION STATEMENT NEAR THE TOP OF THE PAGE.

$$

AED

--Turtle

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Turtle, is that typical wording? I figured they would mention a microburst and that it was not from a tornado. Did you get to go?

NWS did well yesterday.

Your point and click needs to have snow in my forecast soon

Hey there.

No, I didn't go on the survey since I'm working the overnight shift (730 PM to 430 AM). I did notice that microburst was not specifically worded in the prelim report, but it was in the earlier statement. I will make sure this is pointed out for a possible update.

Snow...well, aren't we impatient?? I know you're a true snow weenie, but let's enjoy this season for a bit, please?? We'll have plenty of time to freeze in the fall, winter and early spring. :arrowhead:

--Turtle

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Hey there.

No, I didn't go on the survey since I'm working the overnight shift (730 PM to 430 AM). I did notice that microburst was not specifically worded in the prelim report, but it was in the earlier statement. I will make sure this is pointed out for a possible update.

Snow...well, aren't we impatient?? I know you're a true snow weenie, but let's enjoy this season for a bit, please?? We'll have plenty of time to freeze in the fall, winter and early spring. :arrowhead:

--Turtle

Do you know if they surveyed Willimantic, CT at all?

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