Ottawa Blizzard Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 The 12z GFS is absolute gold for Toronto with regard to front end snow. A deluge of rain for Ottawa and Montreal. It's going to be tough for those two cities to watch that if it verifies as we love to go on about how we get tougher winters and more snow than Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEFD17 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 ALB NWS calling for 1-3" QPF with only slight amount as snow. Ground is so hard you could bend a nail in it, so they're calling for localized flooding and ponding so glad I put my winter tires on... Yeah better to be stuck in the mud instead of snow..... I am glad I changed my mind on getting my snow plow out.I figured if I did get it prepped I would jinx it.That thought did not work either.I will say it was cold this morning.I took my daughter to work for 10 a.m. and it was 11 degrees.The ground is getting solid.Need some decent snow to insulate the ground before the frost gets too deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 The 12z GFS is absolute gold for Toronto with regard to front end snow. A deluge of rain for Ottawa and Montreal. It's going to be tough for those two cities to watch that if it verifies as we love to go on about how we get tougher winters and more snow than Toronto. how about buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 UK still trying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorizer Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 The best we could do here at 1,400 ft elevation was +5. All that cold air slides right down my hill to your place Logan. You're welcome! My low here at the northwest corner of the Helderbergs was -3F. That must be the first sub zero since well back into February at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 But, I just realized that I can get hour 60 on the Plymouth site.....sensible weather wouldn't be much different: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm trying really hard not to turn into a model whiner like you see in certain unnamed regional threads. I will not post anything like: 1) Gee, I really can't wait for that mild rain on Sunday to wipe away my current 2" snowpack; or 2) Really looking forward to that exciting cold frontal passage on Sunday night followed by 0.003-inch of snow and heavy surface icing; or 3) On the edge of my seat for the wrap around dusting on Monday. Nope, we don't do that kind of whining in Buffalo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado Girl Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 The GFS has moved the storm more to the NW. The GFS, 12z Euro, and the 12z GGEM are for the most part in agreement. The UKMET has shifted further west. It looks like the models are thinking the s/w will be amplified. If this is true, it will take awhile for wintry precip to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 The GFS has moved the storm more to the NW. The GFS, 12z Euro, and the 12z GGEM are for the most part in agreement. The UKMET has shifted further west. It looks like the models are thinking the s/w will be amplified. If this is true, it will take awhile for wintry precip to start. <BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"> Keep trending west and we'll have a backside SW flow lake effect set-up in WNY. I'm sure it won't move that far west, but places on the Tug seem to be in a better posistion for heavy lake effect or upslope snows with the position of the low that far west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 UK still trying: Love it when my 850's are the same as Grand Bahama Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado Girl Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Keep trending west and we'll have a backside SW flow lake effect set-up in WNY. I'm sure it won't move that far west, but places on the Tug seem to be in a better posistion for heavy lake effect or upslope snows with the position of the low that far west. The more amplified the Short wave the further west this thing will come . Also, the more amplified the s/w the stronger the Warm-air advection will be ahead of it. But remember, when WAA occurs, the wind flow is replacing cold dense air with warm, less dense air. I agree about some places on the Tug getting hit with quite a bit of LES...We missed out on the last one that buried Lake Effect King. Hopefully, this time it will be our turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEFD17 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Actually there could be ice where you are in the Upper Hudson Valley. By Monday morning bring the parka....we'll be back into the arctic air regardless of what transpires. I am/was thinking this very thing when I read it.I wonder if with the ground being as solid as it is and the little extra cold we have compared to ALB if it will be a ZR event--I am sure that will be a short term thing not anything big.It looks like it is more of the same weather pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 the euro has trended somewhat towards the ukie not good enough for most but puts ottawa right on the edge of being in the game for at least all frozen precip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Love it when my 850's are the same as Grand Bahama Island I have no idea why that keeps happening with the plymouth site....I cut and paste the .gif URL and insert it....it comes out fine, then a few minutes later, I get these weird images from other places on the planet......anyone know what I need to do to stop that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 this pattern sucks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 the euro has trended somewhat towards the ukie not good enough for most but puts ottawa right on the edge of being in the game for at least all frozen precip Yeah, you are in a little better position than us down here. Just a shift of 50 more miles to the south (or 6 hours quicker in movement) to the shortwave, and the low won't cut as quickly to the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorizer Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Tell me about it. My two inches of snow will likely get washed away in tomorrow's rain. this pattern sucks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyace Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Just curious... Why is Canada mentioned in a Ny Pa thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Just curious... Why is Canada mentioned in a Ny Pa thread? Our Canadian posters are from the land of misfit weenies.....we took them in, and feel good about it!!! They recipricate by speaking in English, and measuring in inches and feet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyace Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub_Zero Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Just curious... Why is Canada mentioned in a Ny Pa thread? Haven't you heard? We are now the 51 state. Obama asked kindly, so we were obliged to say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roady Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Haven't you heard? We are now the 51 state. Obama asked kindly, so we were obliged to say yes. Bad choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyace Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Trust me you don't want to be part of this mess, The sky is raging here now with flurries and I can hardly contain my enthusiasm for sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Slick Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/12/another_long_lake-effect_storm.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyace Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I hope there is some 270-280 flow after sundays storm departs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYWeather Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Our Canadian posters are from the land of misfit weenies.....we took them in, and feel good about it!!! They recipricate by speaking in English, and measuring in inches and feet!!! LMAO!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYWeather Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Trust me you don't want to be part of this mess, The sky is raging here now with flurries and I can hardly contain my enthusiasm for sunday. Here Andy. You can have snow all year round. Put you eye up to the glass and you're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyace Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Here Andy. You can have snow all year round. Put you eye up to the glass and you're good to go. Maybe I will move south again and take that with me Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Pretty interesting to me that we've been this cold and have a nice cold shot coming up considering how cold it's been in Alaska. More often than not, it seems the temps up there are mild whenever we get a good cold shot. I guess that speaks to the strenght of the -NAO lately. Check out these "high" temps for the area around Yukon, Alaska over the next few days: .SATURDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY SOUTH AND EAST OF FORT YUKON. MOSTLY CLEAR TO THE WEST. HIGHS 15 BELOW TO 50 BELOW...WARMEST OVER HIGHER TERRAIN AND IN CLOUDY AREAS. LIGHT WINDS. .SATURDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY SOUTH AND EAST OF FORT YUKON. ELSEWHERE MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS 25 BELOW TO 55 BELOW...WARMEST OVER HIGHER TERRAIN AND IN CLOUDY AREAS. LIGHT WINDS. .SUNDAY...PARTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS 20 BELOW TO 50 BELOW...WARMEST OVER HIGHER TERRAIN AND IN CLOUDY AREAS. LIGHT WINDS. .SUNDAY NIGHT...PARTLY CLOUDY. LOWS NEAR 35 BELOW. .MONDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS NEAR 15 BELOW. .MONDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY. LOWS NEAR 25 BELOW. .TUESDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS NEAR 10 BELOW. .TUESDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH A CHANCE OF SNOW. LOWS NEAR 25 BELOW. .WEDNESDAY...PARTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS NEAR 20 BELOW. .WEDNESDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY. LOWS NEAR 25 BELOW. .THURSDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS NEAR 10 BELOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Slick Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Pretty interesting to me that we've been this cold and have a nice cold shot coming up considering how cold it's been in Alaska. More often than not, it seems the temps up there are mild whenever we get a good cold shot. I guess that speaks to the strenght of the -NAO lately. Check out these "high" temps for the area around Yukon, Alaska over the next few days: .SATURDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY SOUTH AND EAST OF FORT YUKON. MOSTLY CLEAR TO THE WEST. HIGHS 15 BELOW TO 50 BELOW...WARMEST OVER HIGHER TERRAIN AND IN CLOUDY AREAS. LIGHT WINDS. .SATURDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY SOUTH AND EAST OF FORT YUKON. ELSEWHERE MOSTLY CLEAR. LOWS 25 BELOW TO 55 BELOW...WARMEST OVER HIGHER TERRAIN AND IN CLOUDY AREAS. LIGHT WINDS. .SUNDAY...PARTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS 20 BELOW TO 50 BELOW...WARMEST OVER HIGHER TERRAIN AND IN CLOUDY AREAS. LIGHT WINDS. .SUNDAY NIGHT...PARTLY CLOUDY. LOWS NEAR 35 BELOW. .MONDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS NEAR 15 BELOW. .MONDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY. LOWS NEAR 25 BELOW. .TUESDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS NEAR 10 BELOW. .TUESDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH A CHANCE OF SNOW. LOWS NEAR 25 BELOW. .WEDNESDAY...PARTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS NEAR 20 BELOW. .WEDNESDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY. LOWS NEAR 25 BELOW. .THURSDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY. HIGHS NEAR 10 BELOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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