HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 We will see but my thoughts are big trough in 10 days on the East Coast with cool weather, prior to that big severe outbreak across the country. Severe caused by typhoon recurve? Is this normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Oh agree absolutely... Even I said I was just over 50/50 myself - this trough action in the Maritimes is a fickle beast. Seems to be having an affect locally regardless of the NAO, too. John, we've had one hell of a gradient this summer-- JFK, near where I am, was +3.5 in June and +5 so far in July, bu NYC and LGA, which are further north (by like 10 miles lol) were only a +1.5 in June and a +3 in July. I also got to 98 the other day and they haven't been higher than 92-93. The grass is yellow here and the thermometer has no problem rising several degrees an hour here no matter what kind of airmass is in place, but I guess farther north it's a different story. Weird to see the south shore toasting like this every day, but I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Ah haha, I was just checking out some of the FRH grids for like DDC and OKC and holy hades on earth! Some of those locales have 592dm thickness THICKNESS, ...with T1'S of +37C ...Can you imagine some freak anomaly that grabbed that and pulled it downsloping into SNE? Well, we've gotten some of that here and it's nice and scorching-- comparisons to 1980 and 1995 are being thrown around for what may happen next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 even they say "possibly new england" so it's not a forgone conclusion it gets here unabated. I think the forecast is much less tricky further south into the mid-Altantic. OSU we were over 100 three days here last July with 850s in the low 20s-- so I think this region has a decent shot at 100+ even if the 25C just barely misses us. Up by you, it may be a different story. It's already been a very hot and dry summer here so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Another run, yet another reason to break continuity... Wow what an insane SPV for July... If that solution verifies all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 73/63, a high of 76, another perfect day of non-heat. Nice that as we pass the halfway mark of July we have yet to see any sustained heat. A warm day here and there but it's really been quite mild. Looking at the title of the thread and comparing it to my NWS forecast I'm left wondering "where's the torch?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 73/63, a high of 76, another perfect day of non-heat. Nice that as we pass the halfway mark of July we have yet to see any sustained heat. A warm day here and there but it's really been quite mild. Looking at the title of the thread and comparing it to my NWS forecast I'm left wondering "where's the torch?" Well, we should get Monday as a torch day (+10 over normal) then possibly a few days towards the end ofnext week Wachusett adding a high speed quad Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 73/63, a high of 76, another perfect day of non-heat. Nice that as we pass the halfway mark of July we have yet to see any sustained heat. A warm day here and there but it's really been quite mild. Looking at the title of the thread and comparing it to my NWS forecast I'm left wondering "where's the torch?" Pete, I give in, I agree, even though all stations are above to well above climo, its been cold, you win. Its not fun anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Pete, I give in, I agree, even though all stations are above to well above climo, its been cold, you win. Its not fun anymore. Well, his pOst was basically correct. Nice day. Have not had much real heat...just a few degrees above Not like last summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Pete, I give in, I agree, even though all stations are above to well above climo, its been cold, you win. Its not fun anymore. Considering most of the rest of SNE was 0 to +1 today lets use that and we can conservatively say Pete's July average is 76. So anything that's above 76 for him is above normal and probably 83-84 at BDL....so the 85,86,84 he's forecasted this weekend is actually +8-+10, despite the fact that there is "no heat". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Well, his pOst was basically correct. Nice day. Have not had much real heat...just a few degrees above Not like last summer last summer was freak. One cant use the summer of 10 as a benchmark, we do live in New England after all. But, when places like Boston, orh, bdr blah blah blah are well above normal, especially in July, when its harder to be above normal, how can you say there has been no heat, I guess the "new" norm, is if you are well above average, that means its actually been cold. I get it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Well, his pOst was basically correct. Nice day. Have not had much real heat...just a few degrees above Not like last summer BOS is +3.4 in July. That's pretty warm when considering what climo for July is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Considering most of the rest of SNE was 0 to +2 today lets use that and we can conservatively say Pete's July average is 76. So anything that's above 76 for him is above normal and probably 83-84 at BDL....so the 85,86,84 he's forecasted this weekend is actually +8-+10, despite the fact that there is "no heat". Some snow lovers cant look past there and see the truth, whatever, I believe its called dickey doo disease............I am freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 BOS is +3.4 in July. That's pretty warm when considering what climo for July is. No NO..............its not warm, its chilly. GIven the fact this weekend and next week look moderately to well above normal, I would say July finishes really cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 last summer was freak. One cant use the summer of 10 as a benchmark, we do live in New England after all. But, when places like Boston, orh, bdr blah blah blah are well above normal, especially in July, when its harder to be above normal, how can you say there has been no heat, I guess the "new" norm, is if you are well above average, that means its actually been cold. I get it now Joe, no one besides a hermit said it is cold. It has just been a few degrees above each day with a couple of bigger departures. Next week will be hot though If the avg for the daily high is 78 and we hit 81-82 then it is meh 88+ would be toooooorchhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 No NO..............its not warm, its chilly. GIven the fact this weekend and next week look moderately to well above normal, I would say July finishes really cold. Did you take a bocce ball to the skull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 BOS is +3.4 in July. That's pretty warm when considering what climo for July is. No NO..............its not warm, its chilly. GIven the fact this weekend and next week look moderately to well above normal, I would say July finishes really cold. It really is too bad the pools and lakes are still frozen over this year. I used to like to swim in the summer too. Dang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 It really is too bad the pools and lakes are still frozen over this year. I used to like to swim in the summer too. Dang. Call me when we have three +10 or more days in a row This has been muted heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 ORH has not had a +10 daily all month... +2.6 for the month before today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 PVD, BDL have had 1 +10 daily departure BOS has had 1 +12... Pretty survivable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 PVD, BDL have had 1 +10 daily departure BOS has had 1 +12... Pretty survivable Agreed. It hasn't been a "cool, wet, summer" as Pete claims though. With temps for the summer (considering June and July so far) around +1 to +1.5 and precip slightly below normal I don't know how you can spin that to be "cool and wet." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 In 2009, the high for July in ORH was 83F -3.3 for the month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 PVD, BDL have had 1 +10 daily departure BOS has had 1 +12... Pretty survivable It will be fun in the winter when I can say a month has been warm because it was -3, it was muted cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Perfectly agreeable day here today. Low if 53 and high of 77.5. Enjoy the 90's late next week. I know how much I like bitter cold so I guess I can understand how others could love just the opposite. Extremes are extremes and just as in late January you realize that you only get a few weeks before the sun angle starts to interfere. Enjoy the mid Summer torch for these fleeting weeks. I'll be in the a/c. No NO..............its not warm, its chilly. GIven the fact this weekend and next week look moderately to well above normal, I would say July finishes really cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 In 2009, the high for July in ORH was 83F -3.3 for the month +3.4 this month. I guess July '09 was just meh as well, not cool at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Considering most of the rest of SNE was 0 to +1 today lets use that and we can conservatively say Pete's July average is 76. So anything that's above 76 for him is above normal and probably 83-84 at BDL....so the 85,86,84 he's forecasted this weekend is actually +8-+10, despite the fact that there is "no heat". A very fair estimate. Two stations within 40 miles further north and at higher elevations (Cummington Hill and Savoy MA) have a normal high temperature of 75.7 and 76.4 for July 15th, so it's likely his normal high would be about 77 for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Pete must have his old internet connection back for this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Pete, I give in, I agree, even though all stations are above to well above climo, its been cold, you win. Its not fun anymore. Good, at least you can see reason. Seriously though, June was cool and wet, We've had a few warm days here the first two weeks of July and a few scattered through the May and June but still haven't hit 90. "Torch en route" should be changed to " Normal to slightly Above Temps en route". It's a matter of perspective. There were long stretches earlier this Spring/Summer when you were posting how warm and beautiful it wasand I'd look out and see manky,cloudy showery weather here. When I left for work this AM it was in the upper 40's here. When I got out of the truck at 2K it was 52 with a stiff wind. It did not feel like the sultry Summer weather you describe. It's been nice, not too hot. We've had regular rainfall here that has everyone commenting on how lush it is. I was talking to the greenskeeper at my course and he said he has had to water very little this go 'round. You guys should save "torch" for prolonged bouts of truly hot weather. The heat this summer is garden variety. Nothing of note. Personally, I'm left hoping for some hot dry weather as the persistent wet conditions here have spawned a new and virulent round of biting insects. All of this will be over very soon and we'll be able to get back to crisp, cold, snowy weather. The best weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 A very fair estimate. Two stations within 40 miles further north and at higher elevations (Cummington Hill and Savoy MA) have a normal high temperature of 75.7 and 76.4 for July 15th, so it's likely his normal high would be about 77 for today. Cummington Hill is 5 minutes from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 +3.4 this month. I guess July '09 was just meh as well, not cool at all. Who said this month wasn't warm? And ORH is +2.6 before today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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