ski MRG Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 LOL, it's a sickness dude we are junkies. I can put it down anytime I want......just one more storm , then I'm giving it up for good. Some good things are coming soon, I'm thinking we head back toward favorable solutions as we get in tighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 lol That was in reference to some of Scooter's posts referencing how hippies tossing frisbies in Boston common during the winter enrage him....no serious generalization. I know, Scooter wants to shove sticks in the spokes of bike riders and toss Hippie's frisbees into the river. It's funny, he seems so even tempered. That's what they always say about serial killers too though, "he seemed quiet and polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I tell ya what.....I'm hankering for a snow storm like everyone else. But, I'm happy to have wintry temps. I 'd much rather have a big snow storm in the works, but I can be contect--at least for a while--with just having good winter cold. Meanwhile, wind's are cranking out there this evening. 22.8/15, gusts up to 27, light snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 I can put it down anytime I want......just one more storm , then I'm giving it up for good. Some good things are coming soon, I'm thinking we head back toward favorable solutions as we get in tighter. Soon they are gonna be smoking what we have since April, seeing more and more converters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 This is gonna be good. Huge thermal gradient with that huge pond to our south and east oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 True but if the teleconnections extend upstream far enough to get cross-polar flow sustained, it'll be a replenishing cold cold winter Yeah I think the cold air will keep flowing into Canada due to the amplified Aleutian ridge that is helping cut off the Pacific jet and bring some northerly flow from the North Pole into Canada. La Niña years tend to be much colder up north anyway, so I'm not too worried. This isn't your traditional GoA low either; there's definitely a bit of a +EPO pattern but there's a Rex block associated with the GoA low that is allowing some higher heights to punch into northern Alaska and the Beaufort Sea, bringing the cold air into North America. We saw a similar pattern emerge in December 2007 although there was more of a SE ridge. This picture shows how the cross polar is pointed at Europe and not us. Blocking is helpful but a more cooperative Pacific could make things historic in NOAM. I think that ridge amplifying in Kamchatka/Bering Strait towards the North Pole is going to knock the cold air in the Canadian Archipelago farther south into the continent. That -AO would be pretty nice for keeping Canada chilly, so I wouldn't get too worried about the brief interruption of cross-polar flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Soon they are gonna be smoking what we have since April, seeing more and more converters. Oh they'll be glomming on as soon as they see some snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 i'm gonna get smoked tonite....nice meso band just wants to set up down by me LOL. hey it could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Im hoping for the same thing here! This would be a first. i'm gonna get smoked tonite....nice meso band just wants to set up down by me LOL. hey it could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 When I left work around 6:30, cold, overcast, some lonely snowflakes....winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Didn't get my first real event of the great 2008-09 season (82.5" total) until Dec 17 (2.5"), so as frustrating as it has been missing out some more, we aren't even off to a slow start yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 When I left work around 6:30, cold, overcast, some lonely snowflakes....winter! Heard from m mom and a friend that we had some flurries this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 2007-08 (73" total) had 5" at this point.....grab an inch or two Friday and I think that would constitue an OK start to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Oh they'll be glomming on as soon as they see some snow. Vermont starting to get some synoptic snow intruding now, Jay Peak Sugarbush MRG looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Didn't get my first real event of the great 2008-09 season (82.5" total) until Dec 17 (2.5"), so as frustrating as it has been missing out some more, we aren't even off to a slow start yet. If were at the end of the month sitting in the same position now (which I don't think will be the case) than it will be time to start worrying...it's still just too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 2007-08 (73" total) had 5" at this point.....grab an inch or two Friday and I think that would constitue an OK start to the season. How much did '08-'09 have? Probably half that..or maybe not even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 If were at the end of the month sitting in the same position now (which I don't think will be the case) than it will be time to start worrying...it's still just too early. Why?, still 10-12 weeks left by then. I just do not get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Didn't get my first real event of the great 2008-09 season (82.5" total) until Dec 17 (2.5"), so as frustrating as it has been missing out some more, we aren't even off to a slow start yet. How much did '08-'09 have? Probably half that..or maybe not even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Why?, still 10-12 weeks left by then. I just do not get it. If we get very little for the whole month of December, that is a very bad sign. Obviously still plenty of winter left after that, but it would take a very big stretch to catch back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 If we get very little for the whole month of December, that is a very bad sign. Obviously still plenty of winter left after that, but it would take a very big stretch to catch back up. Especially given how great the pattern has been on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Why?, still 10-12 weeks left by then. I just do not get it. Theoretically you are correct, but if you research mod-strong la Ninas, December is a very crucial month regarding seasonal snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 If we get very little for the whole month of December, that is a very bad sign. Obviously still plenty of winter left after that, but it would take a very big stretch to catch back up. Meh, not your youths Nina, we can make up quickly, it's possible to trade Dec good for March good as much as that sucks for snow cover fetishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Pats need to sustain this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Theoretically you are correct, but if you research mod-strong la Ninas, December is a very crucial month regarding seasonal snowfall. The database is ridiculously small. See my post above. AO baby AO, baby You will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 The database is ridiculously small. See my post above. AO baby AO, baby You will see. YA there is a first for everything. thou i still think we do alright in december. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 overall skill scores say no....though I think it's a good idea to focus a bit more on 12z and 00z when you get within 48-72 hours of an event...you still can get that occasionally wacky solution. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Pats having their way in the early going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 The database is ridiculously small. See my post above. AO baby AO, baby You will see. Yeah I think the ENSO/monthly thing is a bit exaggerated. December tends to be the coldest month in the more recent La Niñas but we've only had 10 moderate/strong Niñas since 1950 so the sample size isn't exactly impressive, and some winters like 1973-74 had February as colder. Also, cold sometimes means suppression for New England so a bit of a SE ridge building in later in the winter might not be a bad thing after all. It's going to be an unusual pattern with the blocking for sure. Pats having their way in the early going... Looks like the Jets are moving though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Pats having their way in the early going... easier for them to roll the jets than for us to get snow!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 YA there is a first for everything. thou i still think we do alright in december. As do I , lots of chances and lots of hits and lots of misses, volatile pattern but it's not torch pattern by any means, one storm at a time for us junkies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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