tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 hr 216, sub 1008 low over southern wv, lgt precip philly west to indiana, lgt to mod precip over western opa and ohio, this is all snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Figured I add the images in here ..This is for 192 Looks very broad and not very well organized... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 hr 222 low low over southern ches bay, lgt to mod precip all of pa, mod precip over central pa, lgt precip over long island and ny through southern ny,....another storm diving down from plains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 216 Looks like there is a low off the east coast there as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 hr 228 sub 1000 low 150 miles east of atl city, lgt precip over pa se ny and sne, lgt to mod precip northern del to to long island....looks liek anaother clipper on its heels entering plains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 hr 222 low low over southern ches bay, lgt to mod precip all of pa, mod precip over central pa, lgt precip over long island and ny through southern ny,....another storm diving down from plains Goodness, it sounds like 95-96 without the sharp trough and strong ridge to allow the amplification and phasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 A miller B at hr 216. A cold and stormy pattern....i like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 hr 234 sub 988 low over bm, lgt precip nj and ny, mod precip over se mass and cap cod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 240 Looks like it deepens down to 982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 hr 240 sub 984 low bout 100 miles east of boston mod to heavy precip mas and eastern maine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 hr 234 sub 988 low over bm, lgt precip nj and ny, mod precip over se mass and cap cod Sounds like a completely different solution this run. Not as much precip., but the colder part is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 This sounds like one of the better runs of the euro we've had the past few days. I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 This sounds like one of the better runs of the euro we've had the past few days. I'll take it. Yep. This run is really cold and stormy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnjraider Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 hr 240 sub 984 low bout 100 miles east of boston mod to heavy precip mas and eastern maine How is the other storm "diving down into the plains" doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 nice -nao hr 240, goa low is still killing the western ridge though so thats blah...looks like cold and stormy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 anyone got the 240hr euro, the nao looks decent but it could be a north atl ridge, i really cant tell the diff, all i know it there is 564 hgts over greenland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 anyone got the 240hr euro, the nao looks decent but it could be a north atl ridge, i really cant tell the diff, all i know it there is 564 hgts over greenland Post # 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 the goa low really is a pain in the flipping arse lol, it doesnt seem to ever want to go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 Post # 39 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 the goa low really is a pain in the flipping arse lol, it doesnt seem to ever want to go away. Still sounds like this run was an improvement, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I can't believe there isn't more being made about the Miller B redeveloping pattern on this run of the Euro. The 192-198 hr storm misses out to sea but bombs out offshore..and then the 216hr storm gets the Mid-Atlantic with snow before bombing out to the 980s off the coast of Cape Cod while hitting Southeast New England with the big CCB and barely missing a huge snowstorm there. Each of these storms is acting to reinforce the 50/50 feature and -NAO which is actually strengthening and rebuilding at the end of the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 the goa low really is a pain in the flipping arse lol, it doesnt seem to ever want to go away. It might be...but go ahead and loop the surface or H5 of this run. Do you see the pattern of redeveloping Miller B's reinforcing the block and the -NAO? That could get really, really pretty should it come to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I can't believe there isn't more being made about the Miller B redeveloping pattern on this run of the Euro. The 192-198 hr storm misses out to sea but bombs out offshore..and then the 216hr storm gets the Mid-Atlantic with snow before bombing out to the 980s off the coast of Cape Cod while hitting Southeast New England with the big CCB and barely missing a huge snowstorm there. Each of these storms is acting to reinforce the 50/50 feature and -NAO which is actually strengthening and rebuilding at the end of the run. Miller B's don't really help much south of PHL unless its like last year's one in Feb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 I can't believe there isn't more being made about the Miller B redeveloping pattern on this run of the Euro. The 192-198 hr storm misses out to sea but bombs out offshore..and then the 216hr storm gets the Mid-Atlantic with snow before bombing out to the 980s off the coast of Cape Cod while hitting Southeast New England with the big CCB and barely missing a huge snowstorm there. Each of these storms is acting to reinforce the 50/50 feature and -NAO which is actually strengthening and rebuilding at the end of the run. john, i have said this a good bit on our thread. For nyc south you can't have that clipper go that far north of us. You need that to track further south or have the coastal or next wave of low pressure from the south develop further south. The southerly winds from that clipper torches the bl. Like the gfs, a good track for us normally but do to the clippers southerly influence its mainly rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 john, i have said this a good bit on our thread. For nyc south you can't have that clipper go that far north of us. You need that to track further south or have the coastal or next wave of low pressure from the south develop further south. The southerly winds from that clipper torches the bl. Like the gfs, a good track for us normally but do to the clippers southerly influence its mainly rain. I'm not talking about the first event...that reinforces the blocking. The second event is the one I am interested in..December 12-14. That surface low tracks over the Mid Atlantic and then directly over the 40/70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Miller B's are amazing for the nyc area and NE... But we just need some run to run agreement here to get me excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 It might be...but go ahead and loop the surface or H5 of this run. Do you see the pattern of redeveloping Miller B's reinforcing the block and the -NAO? That could get really, really pretty should it come to fruition. yea i see what your saying. The 240hr bomb over gulf of maine, you can see once that moves north its going to further enhance the -nao...alos look in the pacific you can see it on the edge of the screen in alaska and in the pacific looks like a big ridge is starting ti propagate west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 I'm not talking about the first event...that reinforces the blocking. The second event is the one I am interested in..December 12-14. That surface low tracks over the Mid Atlantic and then directly over the 40/70. you were talking bout the hr 192-198 storm chances and that was what i was commenting on. That if the impacts from that clipper are still present it may not be good for nyc philly area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 this might be wayyy out there...But what are the odds of the clipper and the southern energy "merging"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 you were talking bout the hr 192-198 storm chances and that was what i was commenting on. That if the impacts from that clipper are still present it may not be good for nyc philly area I think what earthlight is talking about is that the clipper dies out and a new low can dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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