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E PA/NJ/DE/NE MD/Elko, NV : (Not During Storms) OBS Discussion/Banter Thread

famartin

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phlwx

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being within a few miles of PTW (like a few others here) I can relay that the temps. reported there are fairly accurate. I think just the inland setting, relatively low elevation, and continual thunderstorm misses has allowed PTW to bake more than just about any other site in the region.

PTW airport at 1pm today showing 89. I'm showing 89.6 here.

The 7/8 90 I completely buy...PTW was the last site to get storms while PHL was getting hit off/on from Noon on.

At 1 PM I was at 88 (after I had watered my garden and my sensor is not far from it lol) so I can buy PTW's 89

We have been much drier than PHL locally..,but we've been running warmer than RDG (which is about 20 miles west and in a spot that can torch)...just not sure that dry ground alone that account for it across the board...

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Scotty Lightning

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Meh... a station a lot closer to the water would be better.

There's a COOP site right on Route 37 at the mouth of the Mathis Bridge.

I don't think the NWS has any plans to expand the current ASOS network. The main focus now is upgrading the sites that are already deployed with improved equipment.

It's a shame because it surrounds the Pine Barrens and has great radiational cooling there at night. Once in a while Lakehurst goes offline and I then have to rely on BLM or ACY for "official" obs around Ocean County.

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The 7/8 90 I completely buy...PTW was the last site to get storms while PHL was getting hit off/on from Noon on.

At 1 PM I was at 88 (after I had watered my garden and my sensor is not far from it lol) so I can buy PTW's 89

We have been much drier than PHL locally..,but we've been running warmer than RDG (which is about 20 miles west and in a spot that can torch)...just not sure that dry ground alone that account for it across the board...

I wouldn't be shocked if PTW had a 1 degree warm bias in its obs., but that's about it. RDG being a touch further NW of PTW has received more (atleast a bit more rain)......throw in a bit higher elevation and I'm guessing RDG/PTW are close, but PTW is overall a warmer spot in summer.

By the way, closing in on 92 degrees here at 4pm.

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I wouldn't be shocked if PTW had a 1 degree warm bias in its obs., but that's about it. RDG being a touch further NW of PTW has received more (atleast a bit more rain)......throw in a bit higher elevation and I'm guessing RDG/PTW are close, but PTW is overall a warmer spot in summer.

Elevation difference between PTW and RDG appears to be 50 feet or less. I couldn't determine the exact location of RDG's ASOS via Google imagery, but PTW was easy to find. Its south of the runway around 290 feet.

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Parsley

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Yeah RDG and PTW are very similar......when I'm looking for climo stats (from the NWS website) I use RDG over PHL and ABE. Maybe the fact that PTW is displaced a bit further SE of the higher elevations in SE PA, its helps create a bit more of a "downslope effect" (I'm talking just a tiny bit) Oh well, no big deal, just interesting local geography/weather weenie stuff I like to explore during the boring days of summer.

I guess we can always blame the PTW warm bias on the Limerick Nuclear Powerplant is we want. :arrowhead:

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mattinpa

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Just saw PTW topped out at 98 today.....maybe they make a run at the 104 they hit last summer by the end of this week. :arrowhead:

I'm never surprised by a reading they post. Often they add 2 degrees to the hourly obs, but besides that, they just have to be a degree or two too warm. Maybe even more in heat waves. If Philly gets to 100, PTW will probably be 103. This heat will be brutal even if it underperforms. Just think only one more month maybe of this kind of constant heat. September can be hot, but rarely constantly.

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MGorse

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96 here today. 96 back home. I do like symmetry* ;)

* = Of course there was about a 50 degree difference in the dewpoint between home and here, but who's counting? :lol:

KEKO dew points Monday were 14-20F.

KTTN dew points Monday were 65-71F.

Just a bit of a difference. ;) Looks like the RH at KEKO bottomed out at 5 percent on Monday. Now that is dry, but probably nothing new to you.

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famartin

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KEKO dew points Monday were 14-20F.

KTTN dew points Monday were 65-71F.

Just a bit of a difference. ;) Looks like the RH at KEKO bottomed out at 5 percent on Monday. Now that is dry, but probably nothing new to you.

Yeah, just a typical hot summer day here. BTW did you notice the 51 degree spread (45->96)? That's a bit high but again, not crazy. ;)

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Yeah, just a typical hot summer day here. BTW did you notice the 51 degree spread (45->96)? That's a bit high but again, not crazy. ;)

Did not notice the low temperature, but yeah that is quite the spread there from early morning to afternoon.

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94.6 in NW Chester Co. 98.2 is the highest I've ever recorded at this location since I built the house here in 1986 - 7/15/95.

3 degrees below PTW 5 miles away. Rain failing to materialize last night should give the sun full heating potential in the

days ahead.

I would expect Thursday's drought map should show Chesco in the 'abnormally dry' category.

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