HoarfrostHubb Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 How many 90 degree days do you think each station gets for the year? I think BDL has had 4 so far... ORH = 0 BOS = 1 PVD = 1 So my guesses for the year... BDL = 10 ORH = 1 BOS = 3 PVD = 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 Let me know if I screwed up the previous tallies... I went back a couple of months (to April for BDL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 OKC has had 38, and up to day 29 of a heat wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 OKC has had 38, and up to day 29 of a heat wave Are there any people still alive above the surface. I assume they all head into heat shelters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Are there any people still alive above the surface. I assume they all head into heat shelters I was in Dallas a couple of weeks ago, and the coldest high temperature that week was 100. I think some spots in Oklahoma were touching 110, at least on some of the meso sites. Even at 11 PM at night it was still in the low to mid-90s. Everyone says it's a dry heat, but dew points were still in the low-60s. Makes me appreciate the lack of regularly occurring extremes in New England's weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 I was in Dallas a couple of weeks ago, and the coldest high temperature that week was 100. I think some spots in Oklahoma were touching 110, at least on some of the meso sites. Even at 11 PM at night it was still in the low to mid-90s. Everyone says it's a dry heat, but dew points were still in the low-60s. Makes me appreciate the lack of regularly occurring extremes in New England's weather. Truly... although I do like the range we can get... In the last year I probably experienced a 113 degree (F) temp variation. Saw 100 last summer (not IMBY, but where I was in Lowell) vs -13.6F here at home this winter I prefer the colder of course and today is just about perfect 69/59 attm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Are there any people still alive above the surface. I assume they all head into heat shelters Thank God (Willis Haviland Carrier) for air conditioning! OKC will easily reach the top three warmest June on record. Right now the month's average is at 83.9 and the record is 84.3 It really is a dry heat though. It honestly makes a difference IMO The one thing I miss is variability. I would love some 50F dreary rainy days right now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nzucker Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 No takers on this amazing promotional contest? Winner wins a weenie Do you know what the average number of 90F days is for each station? That would make me much more able to give a reasonable guess. I just don't know climo well enough up there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 BDL = 16 ORH = 2 BOS = 8 PVD = 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 30, 2011 Author Share Posted June 30, 2011 Do you know what the average number of 90F days is for each station? That would make me much more able to give a reasonable guess. I just don't know climo well enough up there... No idea... Will I'm sure has this as well as snowfall averages off the top of his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Based on 1971-2000 normals (from NCDC CLIM20), for the SNE LCD sites average # 90+ days... BDR = 6.7 BDL = 17.7 PVD = 10.2 ORH = 3.1 BOS = 13.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Based on 1971-2000 normals (from NCDC CLIM20), for the SNE LCD sites average # 90+ days... BDR = 6.7 BDL = 17.7 PVD = 10.2 ORH = 3.1 BOS = 13.6 Thanks. Did not realize BOS was that high for those normals. I figured 10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Updated for the new normals... BDL = 14.6 BOS = 10.3 PVD = 9.3 ORH = 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Updated for the new normals... BDL = 14.6 BOS = 10.3 PVD = 9.3 ORH = 2.0 How the hell did BOS and BDL drop 3/yr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 How the hell did BOS and BDL drop 3/yr? you would have to lose 90-100 90 degree days in the course of the decade change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 you would have to lose 90-100 90 degree days in the course of the decade change. If the numbers are correct, I wonder if it is an effect of cotton region shelters vs the aspirated ASOS stations. I'm not sure when exactly the cotton region shelters were retired at the climo sites, but ASOS tends to run cooler. I've heard rumors that that is why they're afraid to convert the Death Valley station over to an AWOS/ASOS because they're afraid of it effecting the heat climo of the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 you would have to lose 90-100 90 degree days in the course of the decade change. ? How so? Wouldn't it just be 3*10 = 30 90-degree days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Does anyone have the # of 90+ days each year for the sites going back to to '71? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 ? How so? Wouldn't it just be 3*10 = 30 90-degree days? BOS: 13.6/year from 1971-2000 13.6*10*3=408 10.2/year from 1981-2010 10.3*10*3=309 Loss of ninety-nine 90 degree degree days from the exclusion of the 70s and the inclusion of the 00s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 BOS: 13.6/year from 1971-2000 13.6*10*3=408 10.2/year from 1981-2010 10.3*10*3=309 Loss of ninety-nine 90 degree degree days from the exclusion of the 70s and the inclusion of the 00s. Yeah you're right...I can't think very well today with this high fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Big heat just doesn't happen as much as it used to, it seems. Overnight minimums have warmed significantly, but it's hard to hit the really big numbers for the most part compared to the 1950s and 1930s. Wasn't August 1953 the time ORH hit 100F? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 BOS: 13.6/year from 1971-2000 13.6*10*3=408 10.2/year from 1981-2010 10.3*10*3=309 Loss of ninety-nine 90 degree degree days from the exclusion of the 70s and the inclusion of the 00s. Oh yeah, sorry. I was thinking in terms of a 10-yr average, not a 30-yr average. My bad. Long night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Big heat just doesn't happen as much as it used to, it seems. Overnight minimums have warmed significantly, but it's hard to hit the really big numbers for the most part compared to the 1950s and 1930s. Wasn't August 1953 the time ORH hit 100F? 9/2/53 they hit 99F. 7/4/1911 they hit 102F.Kinda crazy that that was EXACTLY 100 years ago to today. I think that is the hottest day overall in recorded history for New England. I should probably make a thread about it considering it's the 100th anniv, but I feel too lazy and lousy to look up all of the impressive numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 9/2/53 they hit 99F. 7/4/1911 they hit 102F. Kinda crazy that that was EXACTLY 100 years ago to today. I think that is the hottest day overall in recorded history for New England. I should probably make a thread about it considering it's the 100th anniv, but I feel too lazy and lousy to look up all of the impressive numbers. The Aug/Sept 1953 heat wave was impressive, NYC's longest with 13 days >90F. For Worcester to hit 99F in September is amazing. Sun angle is really fading at that point, so it's definitely more impressive in my mind than the 102F reading on 7/4 which is the heart of the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The Aug/Sept 1953 heat wave was impressive, NYC's longest with 13 days >90F. For Worcester to hit 99F in September is amazing. Sun angle is really fading at that point, so it's definitely more impressive in my mind than the 102F reading on 7/4 which is the heart of the summer. I guess for ORH that's true, but BOS only hit 100F on that day. BOS actually had an impressive 102F on 9/7/1881.The 1911 heat wave (and hot 4th) is still imo the most impressive stretch of heat for NNE. Hot Saturday in 1975 gives it a run for its money in SNE though. All-time heat records were broken for NH, VT, and ME during that July 1911 stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 I guess for ORH that's true, but BOS only hit 100F on that day. BOS actually had an impressive 102F on 9/7/1881. The 1911 heat wave (and hot 4th) is still imo the most impressive stretch of heat for NNE. Hot Saturday in 1975 gives it a run for its money in SNE though. All-time heat records were broken for NH, VT, and ME during that July 1911 stretch. Hot Saturday is my earliest weather memory Crazy how the number of 90 degree days dropped like that. Different station models/methods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Big heat just doesn't happen as much as it used to, it seems. Overnight minimums have warmed significantly, but it's hard to hit the really big numbers for the most part compared to the 1950s and 1930s. Wasn't August 1953 the time ORH hit 100F? The current ORH site has never hit 100F...the older coop site did on the date dendrite mentioned in 1911. Anything of 94+ here I consider some serious heat as 94F has only been reached 3 times since 1991...2 of them last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 The current ORH site has never hit 100F...the older coop site did on the date dendrite mentioned in 1911. Anything of 94+ here I consider some serious heat as 94F has only been reached 3 times since 1991...2 of them last year. Any clue as to why the big difference? The airport is pretty much still in the urban heat island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Any clue as to why the big difference? The airport is pretty much still in the urban heat island Difference between the old site and the airport? 400 feet of elevation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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