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Latest ECWMF looking more aggressive... down to 1000mb at 72 hours.

I'm not necessarily saying it is too aggressive here, but it will be interesting to see if the Euro is once again too aggressive in lowering pressures overall this season.

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If the statistical model was right, sure, 42 knots isn't super aswesome, but since its still June, at least we'd be on the scoreboard, a first inning single, as it were.

Climatology says Abbeville...

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WHXX01 KWBC 271903  

CHGHUR  

TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE  

NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL  

1903 UTC MON JUN 27 2011  



DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.  

PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE  

AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.  

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR  



DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL952011) 20110627 1800 UTC  



       ...00 HRS...   ...12 HRS...   ...24 HRS. ..   ...36 HRS...  

       110627  1800   110628  0600   110628  1800   110629  0600  



        LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON  

BAMS    20.0N  91.0W   20.9N  93.2W   21.3N  95.2W   21.3N  96.9W  

BAMD    20.0N  91.0W   20.8N  92.5W   21.3N  94.0W   21.7N  95.6W  

BAMM    20.0N  91.0W   20.8N  92.8W   21.2N  94.7W   21.3N  96.4W  

LBAR    20.0N  91.0W   20.8N  92.1W   21.6N  93.6W   22.6N  95.4W  

SHIP        20KTS          26KTS          34KTS          42KTS  

DSHP        20KTS          26KTS          34KTS          42KTS  



       ...48 HRS...   ...72 HRS...   ...96 HRS. ..   ..120 HRS...  

       110629  1800   110630  1800   110701  1800   110702  1800  



        LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON  

BAMS    21.1N  98.5W   20.9N 101.2W   20.9N 103.5W   21.3N 106.6W  

BAMD    22.0N  97.3W   22.3N 101.0W   22.6N 104.6W   23.2N 108.2W  

BAMM    21.3N  98.1W   21.2N 101.3W   21.0N 104.5W   21.2N 107.8W  

LBAR    23.4N  97.4W   25.2N 101.7W   27.4N 105.6W   30.2N 109.1W  

SHIP        49KTS          62KTS          70KTS          69KTS  

DSHP        37KTS          28KTS          27KTS          28KTS  



        ...INITIAL CONDITIONS...  

LATCUR =  20.0N LONCUR =  91.0W DIRCUR = 285DEG SPDCUR =   3KT  

LATM12 =  19.9N LONM12 =  90.5W DIRM12 = 285DEG SPDM12 =   2KT  

LATM24 =  19.7N LONM24 =  90.0W  

WNDCUR =   20KT RMAXWD =   60NM WNDM12 =   20KT  

CENPRS = 1008MB OUTPRS = 1010MB OUTRAD =  150NM SDEPTH =   M  

RD34NE =    0NM RD34SE =    0NM RD34SW =    0NM RD34NW =   0NM  

$$  

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18z GFS takes it down to 1005mb east of tampico; looks like what's left eventually makes landfall near or just north of there as it falls apart. paints a few inches across the valley in tx, an area still in exceptional drought.

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95L continues to slowly organize this afternoon. Any surface low appears to be very broad, but it does seem to be wrapping up and looks to be a rather large system...

Very broad, indeed. It will probably slowly tighten before landfall, but it'll still be a broad system by then. Shear is still high, but is slowly diminishing, and by tomorrow morning it will be <15kts over the LLC. This will be like watching paint dry for a while.

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Very broad, indeed. It will probably slowly tighten before landfall, but it'll still be a broad system by then. Shear is still high, but is slowly diminishing, and by tomorrow morning it will be <15kts over the LLC. This will be like watching paint dry for a while.

Yep. Nothing interesting until tomorrow night-Wednesday probably. The really hard part of this forecast is the last 6-12 hrs before landfall, imo.

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18z GFS takes it down to 1005mb east of tampico; looks like what's left eventually makes landfall near or just north of there as it falls apart. paints a few inches across the valley in tx, an area still in exceptional drought.

The size of the disturbance plus the very moist environment associated with the anticyclonic flow in the upper levels will bring 5+ inches to Tamaulipas and Nuevo Leon in Mexico. Because of the very favorable MJO phase, rains will probably linger over the area for several days up to a week. Drought will probably reverse in a good sized area of the country... heck, floods will become the main threat now for some parts along the Sierra Madre... Timeline for northeast MX in a year: Exceptional floods->exceptional drought->major flooding? We'll see.

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Yep. Nothing interesting until tomorrow night-Wednesday probably. The really hard part of this forecast is the last 6-12 hrs before landfall, imo.

Another case of "imagine if it had X more hours over water"? At least the projected path is around the westernmost part of the Atlantic basin.

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Another case of "imagine if it had X more hours over water"? At least the projected path is around the westernmost part of the Atlantic basin.

Yep. The Euro has had that scenario for the last 3-4 runs. Phil kinda sniffed it out the other night, too, with the Gert analog.

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Fairly good agreement between the BAM models means GFS isn't forecasting bad shear. I like the climo model, but it is an outlier in bringing needed rain this way. ~40 knot TS per 0Z statistical guidance, it would use the name Arlene before July ends, and get us on the scoreboard.

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Fairly good agreement between the BAM models means GFS isn't forecasting bad shear. I like the climo model, but it is an outlier in bringing needed rain this way. ~40 knot TS per 0Z statistical guidance, it would use the name Arlene before July ends, and get us on the scoreboard.

June. ;)

And remember, this year we're counting the storm in the month in which it first became a depression.

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Might actually see an interesting recon flight tomorrow.

Unless something drastically changes overnight, I suspect nothing more than a broad circulation. Wednesday may be the better day re: development.

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I've been encouraged by the signs I'm seeing this afternoon and evening. Movement wise, this thing seems to be in no hurry to move out of the Gulf (with most of the convection still over land), and I think even given its current disorganized appearance that there is more than enough time to for this system to become a tropical depression or even a tropical storm. The upper level anticyclone isn't yet overhead, but its starting to build as evidence in the outflow to the east of 95L. If the GFS is right, by 18z tomorrow, the 200mb flow should be down to 5-10 knots.

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Here are my latest thoughts on 95L... I'm thinking this system will eventually become a depression and even perhaps a tropical storm. Track looks straightforward, although there are a couple of initial factors that might slow down the forward motion initially.

http://philstropicalweatherblog.wordpress.com/

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