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July 2011 general discussion/obs thread


OHSnow

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New NAM further west with the 850mb thermal ridge Friday. Low to mid 90s is definitely the safe bet for northern Illinois. How many times have we seen 850mb temps slowly but surely drop as we get closer in the sub 84hr range?

I wouldn't even pay attention to the OP NAM anymore, it's been horrible compared to the Para NAM...which fits in with the rest of guidance.

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Thanks.

The GFS is forecasting 80 degree dews for us starting late Thursday and lasting through at least late Monday lol. Probably overdone, but damn.

EDIT: Add Tuesday with another 80+ dewpoint day according to the new GFS. Wednesday and Thursday fall short of 80 degree dews at only around 77-79 lol. Wow.

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KORD reported on 29-JUN-2011
KORD   GFSX MOS GUIDANCE   6/29/2011  0000 UTC
FHR  24| 36  48| 60  72| 84  96|108 120|132 144|156 168|180 192
WED  29| THU 30| FRI 01| SAT 02| SUN 03| MON 04| TUE 05| WED 06 CLIMO
X/N  79| 61  87| 70  93| 76  91| 71  91| 71  91| 69  89| 69  86 62 83
TMP  73| 66  80| 73  89| 78  85| 74  84| 75  85| 73  84| 73  80
DPT  58| 61  65| 68  71| 73  71| 69  67| 69  67| 66  65| 66  62
CLD  CL| CL  PC| PC  PC| PC  OV| PC  PC| PC  PC| PC  PC| PC  PC
WND   8|  8  13| 11  15| 10   9|  8   9|  8  10|  9  12|  9  10
P12   2|  2  10| 17  13| 31  36| 38  39| 42  24| 27  22| 25  25 24 19
P24    |     14|     24|     47|     52|     52|     40|     41    34
Q12   0|  0   0|  0   0|  0   1|  2   1|  3   0|  0    |
Q24    |      0|      0|      1|      3|      3|       |
T12   5|  4  28| 40  28| 49  38| 46  42| 39  31| 32  24| 26  32
T24    |  9    | 44    | 54    | 63    | 55    | 46    | 40

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I stole this from Beau over on the flood thread. I saw the OH/MI guys bickering about rainfall amounts in the Detroit/Cleveland/Toledo area. It seems that there is a mini-drought developing in SE MI/NW OH. It's anomalous as compared to the rest of the northern part pf the country. Near normal rainfall for June here (SW of FWA), but we're still +9" for the year thanks to copious spring rains.

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It took until July 22 last summer for LAF to record its first 80º dewpoint. Starting Friday through seemingly the foreseeable future, we'll have some good chances. GUS, LAF's co-champion in Indiana for high dewpoints, has already logged one 80º+ dewpoint this summer (81º on 6/21)...we're already playing catch up.

0z GFS peak dewpoints for LAF (Fri to Tue): 80, 81, 80, 79, 78 :frostymelt:

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I just got up outta bed and have to say that last night had to be some of the most absolute best sleeping weather for this time of year. Amazing listening to the frogs and looking at the glow of the fireflies...doesn't get any better. Looking nasty for Fri and even July looking like it wants to get hot with some spikes of heat tempered by some cool shots. All in all not to bad a summer, a little something for everyone which I can live with.

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I stole this from Beau over on the flood thread. I saw the OH/MI guys bickering about rainfall amounts in the Detroit/Cleveland/Toledo area. It seems that there is a mini-drought developing in SE MI/NW OH. It's anomalous as compared to the rest of the northern part pf the country. Near normal rainfall for June here (SW of FWA), but we're still +9" for the year thanks to copious spring rains.

Yeah I think after this weekend this little area of drought south of Detroit over to Toledo will be gone.

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TEMPS ON FRIDAY ARE MORE PROBLEMATIC. IMPRESSIVE 850MB TEMPS ON THE ORDER OF 22-25C WILL ADVECT INTO CENTRAL INDIANA BY LATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON AS THERMAL TEMP RIDGE SETS UP TO NORTHWEST OF THE FORECAST AREA. HOWEVER A COUPLE OF LIMITING FACTORS IN PLAY THAT WILL LIKELY KEEP FULL POTENTIAL OF THE 850MB TEMPS FROM BEING REALIZED AT THE SURFACE. REMNANT CLOUDS FROM ANY CONVECTION IN THE REGION LATE THURSDAY NIGHT/EARLY FRIDAY MAY STUNT TEMP RISES SOMEWHAT ON FRIDAY. ALSO...MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW RELATIVELY POOR BOUNDARY LAYER MIXING WITH LEVELS MAXING AT AROUND 900MB. TEMPS LIKELY TO STILL REACH THE LOWER 90S IN MANY LOCATIONS...BUT FACTORS ABOVE MAY KEEP TEMPS DOWN JUST A COUPLE DEGREES FROM FULL POTENTIAL WITH 850MB TEMPS PRESENT.

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I could imagine the "standard" nam and the "para" nam arguing on the finer details. Frankly, outside winter any nam is to much for me lol.

Talking about winter, I am getting jacked up for a real winterstorm thread. After the GHday epic and the storms that followed, I was pretty burned out. But it doesn't take long, by July the flame starts burning again. I think the only thread that would trump the GHday threads would be a triple phaser.

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