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July 2011 general discussion/obs thread


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DTX already talking about the heat for mid to late week.

HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN BEHIND THE DEPARTING LOW ON MONDAY...AS

850 MB TEMPERATURES FALL INTO THE MIDDLE TEENS. THIS WILL MARK THE

COOLEST DAY OF THE WEEK AS HIGHS ONLY REACH THE UPPER 70S ACROSS THE

THUMB REGION AND HIGHS AROUND 80 ACROSS THE REST OF THE AREA. THE

RETURN FLOW ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE HIGH WILL RESUME RATHER QUICKLY

AS 850 MB TEMPERATURES RECOVER BACK INTO THE UPPER TEENS BY TUESDAY.

THINGS BECOME EVEN WARMER WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY AS 500 MB HEIGHTS

ONCE AGAIN BUILD TO 590 DAM AND 850 MB TEMPERATURES RISE INTO THE

LOWER 20S...BRINGING A RETURN TO 90 DEGREE WEATHER TO SOUTHEAST

MICHIGAN. A COLD FRONT WILL BRING A CHANCE FOR SHOWERS AND

THUNDERSTORMS TO THE AREA LATE IN THE WEEK AS IT TRACKS THROUGH THE

CENTRAL GREAT LAKES.

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IND with a good shot at the driest July on record and a top 5 warmest (if not warmest) July.

So far...

TOTAL FOR MONTH: 0.11

DPTR FM NORMAL: -3.05

GRTST 24HR 0.08 ON 8- 8

July top 5 driest...

0.49"...1914

0.55"...1997

0.67"...1936

0.82"...1881

0.83"...1901

The race for top 5 hottest July, avg temp so far...

AVERAGE MONTHLY: 81.1

DPTR FM NORMAL: 5.8

HIGHEST: 100 ON 21

LOWEST: 63 ON 5

July top 5 warmest...

82.8º...1936

82.0º...1901

81.6º...1934

81.1º...1921

80.6º...1916

For LAF the past data is shorter and incomplete, so we'll use the WL COOP as a reference point.

For July through yesterday at LAF: AVERAGE MONTHLY: 79.2

July top 5 hottest at the WL COOP...

83.7º...1936

82.4º...1934

81.1º...1901

80.5º...1921

80.5º...1931

Rainfall is non record deal, as we got dumped on in early July (2.43" for the month).

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The 8.86" recorded thus far at ORD this month makes it the 3rd wettest July on record.

1. 9.56" - 1889

2. 8.98" - 1957

3. 8.86" - 2011

4. 8.84" - 2010

5. 8.33" - 1982

6. 7.58" - 1969

7. 7.31" - 1963

8. 7.18" - 1875

9. 6.78" - 1950

10. 6.66" - 1899

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rain :o

0.08" at LAF. :weight_lift:

83º at 6PM, coolest it's been at the 6PM ob since July 14th. Dare I say it's feels kinda nice even though the humidity is still very high. :arrowhead:

EDIT: back to 88º at 7PM. Nice while it lasted...

EDIT EDIT: intrahour high today of 95, when no "top of the hour" ob was warmer than 92.

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Since Hoosier slapped me on the wrist for having incorrect data on the last page...a no-no for a guy interested in stats no doubt :arrowhead: , I think I may have found the data with intra hour highs for LAF. This of course in reference to the 90º+ streaks I had posted for LAF...especially 1983. Looks like 23 straight days of 90º+...interrupted by a 89º on 8/1, otherwise it would have been a 33 day streak. Don't mind me, back to your regular scheduled programming...

1983-07-09	91.0	57.0	0
1983-07-10	90.0	66.0	0
1983-07-11	95.0	65.0	0
1983-07-12	92.0	70.0	0
1983-07-13	94.0	62.0	0
1983-07-14	97.0	62.0	0
1983-07-15	95.0	67.0	0
1983-07-16	95.0	66.0	0
1983-07-17	97.0	68.0	0
1983-07-18	98.0	68.0	0
1983-07-19	99.0	73.0	0.02
1983-07-20	103.0	71.0	0.01
1983-07-21	104.0	75.0	0
1983-07-22	105.0	74.0	0
1983-07-23	101.0	76.0	0
1983-07-24	92.0	72.0	0.005
1983-07-25	90.0	67.0	0.005
1983-07-26	90.0	61.0	0
1983-07-27	92.0	62.0	0
1983-07-28	100.0	72.0	0.005
1983-07-29	101.0	75.0	0.005
1983-07-30	95.0	73.0	0.005
1983-07-31	95.0	72.0	0.86
1983-08-01	89.0	64.0	0
1983-08-02	90.0	61.0	0
1983-08-03	95.0	63.0	0
1983-08-04	91.0	72.0	0.07
1983-08-05	96.0	70.0	0
1983-08-06	93.0	70.0	0
1983-08-07	94.0	65.0	0
1983-08-08	97.0	63.0	0
1983-08-09	90.0	67.0	0
1983-08-10	95.0	60.0	0

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Since Hoosier slapped me on the wrist for having incorrect data on the last page...a no-no for a guy interested in stats no doubt :arrowhead: , I think I may have found the data with intra hour highs for LAF. This of course in reference to the 90º+ streaks I had posted for LAF...especially 1983. Looks like 23 straight days of 90º+...interrupted by a 89º on 8/1, otherwise it would have been a 33 day streak. Don't mind me, back to your regular scheduled programming...

1983-07-09	91.0	57.0	0
1983-07-10	90.0	66.0	0
1983-07-11	95.0	65.0	0
1983-07-12	92.0	70.0	0
1983-07-13	94.0	62.0	0
1983-07-14	97.0	62.0	0
1983-07-15	95.0	67.0	0
1983-07-16	95.0	66.0	0
1983-07-17	97.0	68.0	0
1983-07-18	98.0	68.0	0
1983-07-19	99.0	73.0	0.02
1983-07-20	103.0	71.0	0.01
1983-07-21	104.0	75.0	0
1983-07-22	105.0	74.0	0
1983-07-23	101.0	76.0	0
1983-07-24	92.0	72.0	0.005
1983-07-25	90.0	67.0	0.005
1983-07-26	90.0	61.0	0
1983-07-27	92.0	62.0	0
1983-07-28	100.0	72.0	0.005
1983-07-29	101.0	75.0	0.005
1983-07-30	95.0	73.0	0.005
1983-07-31	95.0	72.0	0.86
1983-08-01	89.0	64.0	0
1983-08-02	90.0	61.0	0
1983-08-03	95.0	63.0	0
1983-08-04	91.0	72.0	0.07
1983-08-05	96.0	70.0	0
1983-08-06	93.0	70.0	0
1983-08-07	94.0	65.0	0
1983-08-08	97.0	63.0	0
1983-08-09	90.0	67.0	0
1983-08-10	95.0	60.0	0

Is that from the Utah Climate site?

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How's it going Mike?

Your sig says it all my friend. :thumbsup:

Been a lethal combination of heat and boredom this July, Tim. You'd think day after day with TDs in the 70s TSRA would be popping left and right, but this CAP has been a b**ch. Finally looks like the heat ridge is starting to retrograde west and allowing YYZ to get into the ring of fire.

I'm guessing LAF's been the same per Hoosier's and your posts? Less than 1/4" for the month for you guys (saw the number posted, can't remember it, was really paltry)? With 8"+ at ORD? Love convection for the type of intense weather it produces, but precip. distribution is always a problem.

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Been a lethal combination of heat and boredom this July, Tim. You'd think day after day with TDs in the 70s TSRA would be popping left and right, but this CAP has been a b**ch. Finally looks like the heat ridge is starting to retrograde west and allowing YYZ to get into the ring of fire.

I'm guessing LAF's been the same per Hoosier's and your posts? Less than 1/4" for the month for you guys (saw the number posted, can't remember it, was really paltry)? With 8"+ at ORD? Love convection for the type of intense weather it produces, but precip. distribution is always a problem.

I have to give kudos to the folks at Environment Canada who predicted this summer to be hot and humid. At first, I had my doubts, but looking back, they also nailed the 2009 summer forecast (cooler than normal). It looks like we are on pace for one of the hottest July's on record. I don't have the stats in front of me, but Pearson Airport is on track while downtown Toronto is not too far behind, though it has a longer period of record. 1921 was the hottest July on record (downtown).

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Been a lethal combination of heat and boredom this July, Tim. You'd think day after day with TDs in the 70s TSRA would be popping left and right, but this CAP has been a b**ch. Finally looks like the heat ridge is starting to retrograde west and allowing YYZ to get into the ring of fire.

I'm guessing LAF's been the same per Hoosier's and your posts? Less than 1/4" for the month for you guys (saw the number posted, can't remember it, was really paltry)? With 8"+ at ORD? Love convection for the type of intense weather it produces, but precip. distribution is always a problem.

IND had the paltry rainfall total (0.11"), we got hit pretty good on the 2nd of this month (2.01"), which makes the July total a little more respectable I guess. Just 0.28" since then though. Prospects for rainfall here in the near and distant future remain sketchy.

Other than that it's been pretty much hell. Last summer was very sticky, but the temps never got out of hand. Not so much lately, as the past 7 days have had high temps (hit 101º the other day) to go along with the brutal humidity. Oh well I guess, it's LAF in summer. Not a good place for a self-professed heat hater. Fall and winter are right around the corner. :)

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I have to give kudos to the folks at Environment Canada who predicted this summer to be hot and humid. At first, I had my doubts, but looking back, they also nailed the 2009 summer forecast (cooler than normal). It looks like we are on pace for one of the hottest July's on record. I don't have the stats in front of me, but Pearson Airport is on track while downtown Toronto is not too far behind, though it has a longer period of record. 1921 was the hottest July on record (downtown).

Yeah, EC nailed this one. Anthony Farnell was going for a cooler/wetter summer because of the decaying La Nina and the fact that the wet spring we had increased soil moisture, which in turns lead to more convective precip (not saying I completely agree with his reasoning, but that's what it was). In any case, this has been the first overall hot/dry summer since 2007. And I enjoyed immensely the winter than followed that summer. So here's hoping for more of the same.

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IND had the paltry rainfall total (0.11"), we got hit pretty good on the 2nd of this month (2.01"), which makes the July total a little more respectable I guess. Just 0.28" since then though. Prospects for rainfall here in the near and distant future remain sketchy.

Other than that it's been pretty much hell. Last summer was very sticky, but the temps never got out of hand. Not so much lately, as the past 7 days have had high temps (hit 101º the other day) to go along with the brutal humidity. Oh well I guess, it's LAF in summer. Not a good place for a self-professed heat hater. Fall and winter are right around the corner. :)

I wouldn't mind if it's one of those extended summer years...as long as we're not cracking 90 in October like 2007.

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IND had the paltry rainfall total (0.11"), we got hit pretty good on the 2nd of this month (2.01"), which makes the July total a little more respectable I guess. Just 0.28" since then though. Prospects for rainfall here in the near and distant future remain sketchy.

Other than that it's been pretty much hell. Last summer was very sticky, but the temps never got out of hand. Not so much lately, as the past 7 days have had high temps (hit 101º the other day) to go along with the brutal humidity. Oh well I guess, it's LAF in summer. Not a good place for a self-professed heat hater. Fall and winter are right around the corner. :)

Oops, sorry, those were IND numbers. I agree about looking forward to the future. Anything's possible, but I think we peaked last week as far as heat/humidity goes for this summer (fingers crossed :lol:). It'll be a gradual transition, but the leaden skies and cool breezes of fall are not too far away.

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Oops, sorry, those were IND numbers. I agree about looking forward to the future. Anything's possible, but I think we peaked last week as far as heat/humidity goes for this summer (fingers crossed :lol:). It'll be a gradual transition, but the leaden skies and cool breezes of fall are not too far away.

Unfortunately we're not out of the woods here in LAF for more high heat/humidity...next Wed onward, the death ridge re-visits Indiana. Alas the longer it lasts this summer, the better chance this is my last summer living here. Plus I need a snowier/colder winter location. :guitar:

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Unfortunately we're not out of the woods here in LAF for more high heat/humidity...next Wed onward, the death ridge re-visits Indiana. Alas the longer it lasts this summer, the better chance this is my last summer living here. Plus I need a snowier/colder winter location. :guitar:

Well, we definitely peaked here. YYZ hit 100 on Thursday. That happens maybe once every 10 years. So I'm confident the worse is behind us.

Where are you thinking about moving? South Bend is probably as short a move you could make for ~40"/year increase in average snowfall.

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You will change your tune when we get our big 20" blizzard this winter.

:lol:

I think we missed our chance with this past winter (Groundhog Day)...for awhile anyway. Not that we haven't had a good run lately though...since Feb 2007. It's all downhill from here on out...

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Well, we definitely peaked here. YYZ hit 100 on Thursday. That happens maybe once every 10 years. So I'm confident the worse is behind us.

Where are you thinking about moving? South Bend is probably as short a move you could make for ~40"/year increase in average snowfall.

I'm probably 1/2 kidding, 1/2 serious, but I'm still young enough...with some decent golf business contacts to use. I'd love southern/southeastern WI to be honest. Maybe BowMe's 'hood. Though I'm not sure of the good looking women count around there. :beer:

A good example of LAF hell: 10PM, 83/79. Brutal.

METAR KLAF 240154Z AUTO 19003KT 10SM CLR 28/26 A2996 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT NW-NE SLP141 T02830261

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I'm probably 1/2 kidding, 1/2 serious, but I'm still young enough...with some decent golf business contacts to use. I'd love southern/southeastern WI to be honest. Maybe BowMe's 'hood. Though I'm not sure of the good looking women count around there. :beer:

A good example of LAF hell: 10PM, 83/79. Brutal.

METAR KLAF 240154Z AUTO 19003KT 10SM CLR 28/26 A2996 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT NW-NE SLP141 T02830261

Oh, I thought you wanted to move some place snowy ;). Seriously though, as a person who lives in a 45-60"/annum snowfall area, it can be really frustrating, even more so than in less snowy climos. You get enough snow to get a solid taste for it, but that means when the pattern is warm/wet you jones for it more, whereas in a place that gets ~25"/year, you expect to have near snowless winters and can handle those snowless patterns better. At least that's my take on it. Head for the belts man. No disappointments there.

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:lol:

I think we missed our chance with this past winter (Groundhog Day)...for awhile anyway. Not that we haven't had a good run lately though...since Feb 2007. It's all downhill from here on out...

I'm glad I got to experience a sleet storm like that, but it sorta sucks that there was a band of 20" snows not all that far away. The conditions that night were just miserable...temps in the low 20's with moderate/heavy sleet and gusts over 40 mph, although that doesn't sound bad right now.

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