TheTrials Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'm always hesistant and don't want to get too excited for winter because we don't live in a place with guaranteed success in the snow department. Regardless of the outcome, the arrival of winter is worthy of being pumped about. Even if it sucks, its still better than 100 degree days, power outages, and the stench of sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Regardless of the outcome, the arrival of winter is worthy of being pumped about. Even if it sucks, its still better than 100 degree days, power outages, and the stench of sweat. -NAO incoming http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/forecasts/teleconn/images/compare.pn.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Regardless of the outcome, the arrival of winter is worthy of being pumped about. Even if it sucks, its still better than 100 degree days, power outages, and the stench of sweat. dont forget mosquitos,biting flies,yellow jackets,wasps,spiders and biting ants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I really hate the lack of light. But it's bittersweet since it's also a sign of the approaching winter. I also love autumn and all the holidays that go with it. I agree.I wish winter had the summer daylight hours.Nothing worse than having over 14 1/2 hours of darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 I agree.I wish winter had the summer daylight hours.Nothing worse than having over 14 1/2 hours of darkness. and snow storms at night suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 and snow storms at night suck FEB 8 1994 was the only true daytime storm I can remember.I saw 3 inch hour rates between 10AM and 12PM that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 FEB 8 1994 was the only true daytime storm I can remember.I saw 3 inch hour rates between 10AM and 12PM that day. There has been a transition it seems to more systems at night since 2003, from 1994-2003 it seemed systems arriving during the early morning were more common...here is a list of some of the morning events during that period...2/11/94, 12/19/95, 2/16/96, 1/25/00, 12/30/00, 12/5/02, 2/5/03, 12/5/03, 12/14/03...the only bigger night arriving events I can remember were 2/2-2/3/96, PDII, 2/4/95, 11/28/95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Best case scenario for me is a storm that moves in before sunrise, establishes a nice blanket and continues throughout the day. That way people and cars don't beat it down when it's trying to accumulate in the beginning and in borderline temp situations the already established blanket prevents melting from occurring on the typical warmer surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Best case scenario for me is a storm that moves in before sunrise, establishes a nice blanket and continues throughout the day. That way people and cars don't beat it down when it's trying to accumulate in the beginning and in borderline temp situations the already established blanket prevents melting from occurring on the typical warmer surfaces. Yes, just like January 96. Of course that one was so cold and rates so consistent that there was no chance of any car beat down. It also had day time snow two times since it was a 2 dayer, even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yes, just like January 96. Of course that one was so cold and rates so consistent that there was no chance of any car beat down. It also had day time snow two times since it was a 2 dayer, even better. Didnt 96 start during the daylight hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Didnt 96 start during the daylight hours? The real blizzard conditions did not happen until around sunset then continued overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The real blizzard conditions did not happen until around sunset then continued overnight. I edited my response because I checked the observations and it started around 6 am. I can't remember the snow starting that early for some reason but I guess it did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The real blizzard conditions did not happen until around sunset then continued overnight. That northern edge of that storm moved so slow. It didn't start snowing here until about 8-9pm that night. So about 12 hours after it started snowing in NYC. We "only" got about 15 inches here total...but it was still nice since it looked like we were going to get nothing about 36 hours earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 That northern edge of that storm moved so slow. It didn't start snowing here until about 8-9pm that night. So about 12 hours after it started snowing in NYC. We "only" got about 15 inches here total...but it was still nice since it looked like we were going to get nothing about 36 hours earlier. PD2 was the slowest moving storm I have ever seen.9 miles south of me there was 5 inches on the ground before I even had the first flake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 PD2 was the slowest moving storm I have ever seen.9 miles south of me there was 5 inches on the ground before I even had the first flake. That was crazy. JFK was getting light to moderate snow for hours when I had overcast skies here on the northern side of Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 That was crazy. JFK was getting light to moderate snow for hours when I had overcast skies here on the northern side of Queens. My friend in Belle Harbor Had 5 inches on the ground before I had the first flakes.He had 5 inches on FEB 6 2010 as well while I had barely a dusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Didnt 96 start during the daylight hours? That's what I said, two day time snows It started about 5am in the city, 6-7am north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Best case scenario for me is a storm that moves in before sunrise, establishes a nice blanket and continues throughout the day. That way people and cars don't beat it down when it's trying to accumulate in the beginning and in borderline temp situations the already established blanket prevents melting from occurring on the typical warmer surfaces. Last snowstorm I remember being like this was ironically enough in April -- April 7, 2003! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 There has been a transition it seems to more systems at night since 2003, from 1994-2003 it seemed systems arriving during the early morning were more common...here is a list of some of the morning events during that period...2/11/94, 12/19/95, 2/16/96, 1/25/00, 12/30/00, 12/5/02, 2/5/03, 12/5/03, 12/14/03...the only bigger night arriving events I can remember were 2/2-2/3/96, PDII, 2/4/95, 11/28/95. Both of the big storms in 1994 happened during the day-- sadly, the second one changed to sleet here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Didnt 96 start during the daylight hours? I thought so too-- I remember it starting on a very cold Sunday morning around 11 AM or so. It was overcast and Alps-like cold before the snow moved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 PD2 was the slowest moving storm I have ever seen.9 miles south of me there was 5 inches on the ground before I even had the first flake. That was crazy. JFK was getting light to moderate snow for hours when I had overcast skies here on the northern side of Queens. My friend in Belle Harbor Had 5 inches on the ground before I had the first flakes.He had 5 inches on FEB 6 2010 as well while I had barely a dusting. Yup it started here right around sunset, sometime around 6 PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 PD2 was the slowest moving storm I have ever seen.9 miles south of me there was 5 inches on the ground before I even had the first flake. Yeah it seemed to take forever to start up. I remember watching radar showing hvy snow over south Jersey for hours on end Sunday morning, then finally the initial banding reached CNJ by about 2pm. Took awhile for the lower levels to moisten up -- had flurries/lt snow for a couple hours, then it got much heavier by 4pm or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 PD2 was the slowest moving storm I have ever seen.9 miles south of me there was 5 inches on the ground before I even had the first flake. I'll nominate Jan. 2-3, 1987 (the "Zyzygy Storm"), a nice 16" dump at my then BY in Gardiner, Maine. PWM was reporting snow at 4 AM on the 2nd, but it took over 8 hr to reach AUG, 50 miles to the NNE. Then it started like a snowsquall, by far the most sudden beginning I've seen from a northeast storm. In 30 seconds it went from, "When is it going to start?" to "Can barely see the pines across Hospital Street." (500' away) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 FEB 11 1983 had bright sunshine through high clouds at 1215PM.By 1230PM there was a thunderstorm like darkness wall of clouds coming up from the south and at 1PM or just thereafter under unusually dark skies before a snowstorm,the snow came in like a snow squall and the rest is history.The morning of the 11th had Phil with 7 inches on the ground at 7AM,just to show how slow the snow shield moved north.Once it got to our latitude it seemed to accelerate somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Often El Niños have the Dec/Feb split for big snowstorms....09-10, 02-03, and 57-58 are all solid examples. And 1968-9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 The cold front that came through in November that brought the early post-frontal snow was a big sign that winter was going to rock and roll. Its always good to see flakes at the end of October/early november (see 2002-2003, 95-96, 93-94, 2009-2010, 2010-2011) Yeah. That theory worked just great in 1972-3 (October 19, 1972) and 1979-80 (around the same date). </sarcasm> I hope we get snow in October. Same comment as above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Yeah. That theory worked just great in 1972-3 (October 19, 1972) and 1979-80 (around the same date). </sarcasm> Same comment as above. And if 60-61 95-96 no El ninos. Plenty of DEC and FEB storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 If this is winter storms and not just snow storms, my order is this: 1. Jan 1996...most snow Ive ever gotten 2. Boxing Day Storm 2010...Winds were over 70 mph in my area of LI 3. December 2009 (tied for the most intense snowfall with my next storm) 4. Jan 2011 Convective Snows like Ive never seen) 5. March 1993 ...wow what a beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 My heaviest snow fell during the daylight hrs in the blizzard of 96...first flakes were around sunrise for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 And if 60-61 95-96 no El ninos. Plenty of DEC and FEB storms I'm not sure how that's responsive to my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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