Isotherm Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 12/19/09 was a monster for my area of Monmouth Co, 22" of powder. Temps in the low to mid 20s much of the storm with pretty good drifting. Phenomenal Decembers we've been having the past couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 12/19/09 was a monster for my area of Monmouth Co, 22" of powder. Temps in the low to mid 20s much of the storm with pretty good drifting. Phenomenal Decembers we've been having the past couple years. This last December was pretty slow outside of Boxing Day, however, which ensured above average snowfall. We had well below-normal temperatures with the stout west-based NAO block, but snowfall events were lacking. The cutters on 12/1 and 12/13 (?) were pretty nasty with all rain for the area. Until the big 12/26 event, I had measured just 1.5" from a WINDEX event on the evening of 12/13. I remember this particularly well because my car broke down and I had to walk over a mile home...nasty conditions with temps plummeting into the teens, heavy snow squalls, and gusty NW winds. The next morning, I got up to go to work, and the sky was crystal clear with highs only reaching the lower 20s. 850s were like -20C after that WINDEX, but it wasn't exactly a big event. Then, we all thought there was a possibility of a MECS on 12/19 when the ECM showed a big hit at 72 hours, but the storm just scraped Cape Cod. Cold and dry returned until Boxing Day. It was a cold, snowy December in the books but there were some prolonged periods of boredom as we waited for the -PNA to loosen its grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 12/19/09 was a monster for my area of Monmouth Co, 22" of powder. Temps in the low to mid 20s much of the storm with pretty good drifting. Phenomenal Decembers we've been having the past couple years. Everything was a monster for you that winter. You were in the sweet spot of this subforum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Everything was a monster for you that winter. You were in the sweet spot of this subforum. Monmouth and Ocean Counties have seen ridiculous amounts of snowfall these past two winters. For example, Toms River had nearly 140" snowfall in 09-10/10-11...they can't average much more than 25" on the coast with no elevation, probably a tick less. Those areas have been the jackpot...from PHL through Central NJ had the best positioning to benefit from both Winter 09-10 and Winter 10-11. I can't complain, however, as my house has seen about 140" fall since December 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 We learned during 2009-10 that was could be in business with a strong El Niño and last winter with a strong La Niña. Nothing wrong with either winters. -NAO rules in my opinion. -NAO and a +PNA rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 You didn't believe me at first when I told you it was 4+ inches an hour. Epic night, just epic. A lot of our big storms have been happening at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 This last December was pretty slow outside of Boxing Day, however, which ensured above average snowfall. We had well below-normal temperatures with the stout west-based NAO block, but snowfall events were lacking. The cutters on 12/1 and 12/13 (?) were pretty nasty with all rain for the area. Until the big 12/26 event, I had measured just 1.5" from a WINDEX event on the evening of 12/13. I remember this particularly well because my car broke down and I had to walk over a mile home...nasty conditions with temps plummeting into the teens, heavy snow squalls, and gusty NW winds. The next morning, I got up to go to work, and the sky was crystal clear with highs only reaching the lower 20s. 850s were like -20C after that WINDEX, but it wasn't exactly a big event. Then, we all thought there was a possibility of a MECS on 12/19 when the ECM showed a big hit at 72 hours, but the storm just scraped Cape Cod. Cold and dry returned until Boxing Day. It was a cold, snowy December in the books but there were some prolonged periods of boredom as we waited for the -PNA to loosen its grip. Last winter was sort of like the typical La Niña, except for being two or three weeks on (for wintry weather) and two or three weeks off, the wintry weather coalesced into one such glorious period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Last winter was sort of like the typical La Niña, except for being two or three weeks on (for wintry weather) and two or three weeks off, the wintry weather coalesced into one such glorious period. Often El Niños have the Dec/Feb split for big snowstorms....09-10, 02-03, and 57-58 are all solid examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Monmouth and Ocean Counties have seen ridiculous amounts of snowfall these past two winters. For example, Toms River had nearly 140" snowfall in 09-10/10-11...they can't average much more than 25" on the coast with no elevation, probably a tick less. Those areas have been the jackpot...from PHL through Central NJ had the best positioning to benefit from both Winter 09-10 and Winter 10-11. I can't complain, however, as my house has seen about 140" fall since December 2009. If we had been the sweet spot for either one of those winters (12/19/09 a tick further west, 2/6/10 a tick further north, 10-11 with a weak la nina, 1/13/11 a tick further west-- we could have seen 100" of snow in either winter.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 If we had been the sweet spot for either one of those winters (12/19/09 a tick further west, 2/6/10 a tick further north, 10-11 with a weak la nina, 1/13/11 a tick further west-- we could have seen 100" of snow in either winter.) 100" can definitely happen around here...parts of NJ had like 70" by the end of January 2011, talking about places that got 30-32" in Boxing Day, 6-10" on 1/12, and then another 18-20" in 1/27. Areas in NNJ above 500' elevation eclipsed 100" in Winter 60-61...the Dobbs Ferry co-op at 250' had 90", so you figure luckier places at higher elevation in Westchester may have gotten more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 it's july. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Winter cannot come soon enough. Big winter incoming, long duration and epic cold. http://mycountdown.org/Other/Winter/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 This last December was pretty slow outside of Boxing Day, however, which ensured above average snowfall. We had well below-normal temperatures with the stout west-based NAO block, but snowfall events were lacking. The cutters on 12/1 and 12/13 (?) were pretty nasty with all rain for the area. Until the big 12/26 event, I had measured just 1.5" from a WINDEX event on the evening of 12/13. I remember this particularly well because my car broke down and I had to walk over a mile home...nasty conditions with temps plummeting into the teens, heavy snow squalls, and gusty NW winds. The next morning, I got up to go to work, and the sky was crystal clear with highs only reaching the lower 20s. 850s were like -20C after that WINDEX, but it wasn't exactly a big event. Then, we all thought there was a possibility of a MECS on 12/19 when the ECM showed a big hit at 72 hours, but the storm just scraped Cape Cod. Cold and dry returned until Boxing Day. It was a cold, snowy December in the books but there were some prolonged periods of boredom as we waited for the -PNA to loosen its grip. La Nina Decembers have a tendency towards cold and suppression....2000 and 2010 both came close to being virtually snowless with the 12/26 storm needing nearly a perfect interaction between 3 upper level disturbances to get the storm to come northward and the 12/30/00 storm needing a disturbance which acted as a kicker for what should have been the big storm to ultimately become the storm itself 3 days late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 12/19 was a mediocre storm here; dry air ate away much of the initial banding, and then a deformation zone set up from Central LI-GON with subsidence on the NW side of that deformation axis. I got 8" but wasn't too pleased to hear that SE CT and OKX saw 20"+...I think the NWS OKX measured 26.9" in that event, which seems like a lot but I have personal confirmation that rates were over 4"/hr in that band. The storm was fun for exploring outside however as conditions were quite severe in the heavier banding...>20mph winds, temperatures around 16F, and visibility around 1/4mi. I remember how the wind-blown snowflakes stung my face as I couldn't pull my hat down far enough to guard myself. We barely managed a White Christmas despite the 8" on 12/19 with a bowling ball over the Midwest cutting and destroying our snowpack. However, I went to Old Lyme on 12/21 and had a great time sledding in the 20-24" they had accumulated. Drifts were massive over there, to the point that seeing around turns while driving was a big problem. I remember accidentally turning onto Route 1 without looking, a very dangerous move, because the stop-sign and view of the intersection were blocked by snowbanks. Westchester got its revenge on 2/25 however, when CT changed to rain with temperatures in the 50s while 26" fell here. Winter 09-10 was simply the best for juicy, unusual storms. I ended with 68" in Dobbs Ferry for Winter 09-10 compared to 69.5" this year, although snowpack and arctic outbreaks were better this past winter. Quick shots of 2/25/10, the cap of a big winter, don't believe I've posted these before: Snow eaters ftl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 it's july. A lot of us on here don't like the hot weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 A lot of us on here don't like the hot weather. last I checked its a weather forum to talk about weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 last I checked its a weather forum to talk about weather. nope, can't do that. in fact, don't even bother to make your own winter thread so people have the option to read and post or not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 The 2/25-26/10 dropped 35-40 inches up by Harriman,Monroe,The Woodbury commons Shopping center While Mohegan Lake about 15 miles East had less than 10 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 The 2/25-26/10 dropped 35-40 inches up by Harriman,Monroe,The Woodbury commons Shopping center While Mohegan Lake about 15 miles East had less than 10 inches. My parents had 40 inches up there, it was crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 My parents had 40 inches up there, it was crazy. That is one of the biggest snowfalls in SENY history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 That is one of the biggest snowfalls in SENY history. The 26" I measured was almost certainly the biggest storm since March 1960 here in the hills of Dobbs Ferry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Only 125 more days to go to the unofficial start of winter. And who knows, if we get lucky, could be even less then that (see 95-96)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Only 125 more days to go to the unofficial start of winter. And who knows, if we get lucky, could be even less then that (see 95-96)... The cold front that came through in November that brought the early post-frontal snow was a big sign that winter was going to rock and roll. Its always good to see flakes at the end of October/early november (see 2002-2003, 95-96, 93-94, 2009-2010, 2010-2011) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Monmouth and Ocean Counties have seen ridiculous amounts of snowfall these past two winters. For example, Toms River had nearly 140" snowfall in 09-10/10-11...they can't average much more than 25" on the coast with no elevation, probably a tick less. Those areas have been the jackpot...from PHL through Central NJ had the best positioning to benefit from both Winter 09-10 and Winter 10-11. I can't complain, however, as my house has seen about 140" fall since December 2009. Yeah, we've been living through a remarkable time period around here, the past 2 winters historic. I recorded 127.5" combined total for 09-10/10-11, 72" in 09-10 and 57.5" in 10-11. I've calculated my average snowfall to be around 29" in this part of Monmouth County. The past decade has certainly helped in elevating both our 30 year and long term average (29.0 and 29.3 respectively). The 2000s decade was on par with the 1960s, both a little over 34". It's going to be very difficult to impress after the past couple years of amazing snow depths, storms, and overall duration of snowpack. We need a 95-96 repeat, which is still the king around this area. 80-85". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Only 125 more days to go to the unofficial start of winter. And who knows, if we get lucky, could be even less then that (see 95-96)... I'm alreadu noticing the dwindling daylight on the sunset side, starting to get dark around 8-815 now. Kind of sad actually, as I'm not ready to see summer go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The only real complaint I have about last winter is I wish the Boxing Day Blizzard occurred a couple days earlier so we could've had a white Christmas. Pickers can't be choosers though...other than that, the past 2 winters were solid A's for my area. Can't get much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Only 125 more days to go to the unofficial start of winter. And who knows, if we get lucky, could be even less then that (see 95-96)... I hope we get snow in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'm alreadu noticing the dwindling daylight on the sunset side, starting to get dark around 8-815 now. Kind of sad actually, as I'm not ready to see summer go. Winter is coming, get pumped! Just over 2 1/2 months I would imagine till the 1st gfs fantasy snow storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The only real complaint I have about last winter is I wish the Boxing Day Blizzard occurred a couple days earlier so we could've had a white Christmas. Pickers can't be choosers though...other than that, the past 2 winters were solid A's for my area. Can't get much better. I really hate the lack of light. But it's bittersweet since it's also a sign of the approaching winter. I also love autumn and all the holidays that go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Winter is coming, get pumped! Just over 2 1/2 months I would imagine till the 1st gfs fantasy snow storm. I'm always hesistant and don't want to get too excited for winter because we don't live in a place with guaranteed success in the snow department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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