Ellinwood Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 You are one of the few if not the only person on here that likes our weather. It's 100x better than Central NY... more severe and less snow! I also enjoy not needing a jacket/sweatshirt as soon as 11pm hits in June. EDIT: 11pm makes for a better argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k*** Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It's going to be hard for you guys to get real severe wx given the swirling dervish near the lakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 You are one of the few if not the only person on here that likes our weather. I think for most normal people the weather around here is fairly ideal if not a little too cool at times in winter and a little too hot in the summer. We get a lot of sun.. most people enjoy that. As far as being a big weather event lover the region can be tough in many respects. I do think it has its advantages.. like forcing people who live here to actually learn (whether or not it sticks or they ignore... ) the process involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhotoGuy Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It's 100x better than Central NY... more severe and less snow! I also enjoy not needing a jacket/sweatshirt as soon as 10pm hits in June. I rather it be cold and snowy. I would love to live in Alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 It's going to be hard for you guys to get real severe wx given the swirling dervish near the lakes True that. Sadly, it's been one of the better setups in the last month or so... at least there's a jetstreak this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It's 100x better than Central NY... more severe and less snow! I also enjoy not needing a jacket/sweatshirt as soon as 11pm hits in June. EDIT: 11pm makes for a better argument Central NY might have some of the worst weather in the country... Boston too.. a city I could never live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 True that. Sadly, it's been one of the better setups in the last month or so... at least there's a jetstreak this time. if it was a few hundred miles southwest we'd have eked something out. in reality our best events, at least tornado wise, will always be ones that come up from the South. everything else is sorta random luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 if it was a few hundred miles southwest we'd have eked something out. in reality our best events, at least tornado wise, will always be ones that come up from the South. everything else is sorta random luck. I think it's time to hope for a tropical system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 if it was a few hundred miles southwest we'd have eked something out. in reality our best events, at least tornado wise, will always be ones that come up from the South. everything else is sorta random luck. All I wanted was a regular storm lol. Like 7 days of storm chances and nothing at all to show for it. That's pretty sad. LWX talking about multiple MCS's and what not, ugh what a whole series fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 and yes, i meant southeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I just want some rain. Don't really care about severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 if it was a few hundred miles southwest we'd have eked something out. in reality our best events, at least tornado wise, will always be ones that come up from the South. everything else is sorta random luck. Hurricanes is one of the great things about this area. Rare but worth the wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The only thing we can hope for is a MCS Monday/Tuesday. lol. I don't even think i want to hear the word MCS ever again after this past week. Edit: Actually supposed to golf Monday so it probably will rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The only thing we can hope for is a MCS Monday/Tuesday. lol. I don't even think i want to hear the word MCS ever again after this past week. Lacks UL support, water loading, No synoptic trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Lacks UL support, water loading, No synoptic trigger. Not talking severe here just some storms. Meh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Hurricanes is one of the great things about this area. Rare but worth the wait. yeah tho not good days to see tornadoes i guess--but wasnt here for ivan so maybe some were vis? generally you still need similar features at 500 mb etc which you can get from a plains low.. but it needs to be moving, not stacking/filling etc. ideally we have a 990 something or lower chugging along through Ohio or the southeast lakes during the afternoon. april 27-28 is probably about as good of a setup as we get for multiple tornadoes outside hurricane remnants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 and yet we still had http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/april-27-2011-tornado-outbreak-numerous-tornadic-storms-impacted-the-dc-region-as-well/2011/04/28/AFU3DlDF_blog.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 I did see the vils they were 75-85 for a while before warned. I done arguing about it. Mute point anyways. I think I found the problem... you using GRLevel3? The visual VIL is being miscalculated, which is why you saw such high values (something that apparently happened with a recent update). Noticed this when I pulled up GR as well. If you turn on storm attributes and hover over the cell, you get the real VIL calculation (which, at the time in question, were around 35-45). The actual VILs, in addition to LCLs of around 1250', were the reason why the warnings weren't issued until several scans after your original post. http://www.grlevelxstuff.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-348.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I think I found the problem... you using GRLevel3? The visual VIL is being miscalculated, which is why you saw such high values (something that apparently happened with a recent update). Noticed this when I pulled up GR as well. If you turn on storm attributes and hover over the cell, you get the real VIL calculation (which, at the time in question, were around 35-45). The actual VILs, in addition to LCLs of around 1250', were the reason why the warnings weren't issued until several scans after your original post. http://www.grlevelxs....php/t-348.html Well still storm reports were actually put up west of the warning areas so it did go severe a little early but, it's not worth really arguing over. Guess that is what happens when there is nothing else to track lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 Well still storm reports were actually put up west of the warning areas so it did go severe a little early but, it's not worth really arguing over. Guess that is what happens when there is nothing else to track lol. Where do you see this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 You guys can borrow some rain from up here! ~1.6" the last two days with temps in the low 60s... perfect summer wx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Where do you see this? By looking at where the warnings were and the storm reports. Look here the little symbol is missing but it's the one in CATLETTSBURG/CANNONSBURG. If you move your mouse to the left of the warning it will show up in text. http://www.erh.noaa....dex.php?wfo=rlx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 By looking at where the warnings were and the storm reports. Look here the little symbol is missing but it's the one in CATLETTSBURG/CANNONSBURG. If you move your mouse to the left of the warning it will show up in text. http://www.erh.noaa....dex.php?wfo=rlx It's on the edge of the warning, and the report was at 3:42pm. The original warning on that cell was issued at 3:27pm, and it included Cannonsburg: http://kamala.cod.ed...927.wuus51.html BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON WV 327 PM EDT THU JUN 23 2011 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHARLESTON HAS ISSUED A * SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... BOYD COUNTY IN KENTUCKY... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF CANNONSBURG... CABELL COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF HUNTINGTON... EXTREME WEST CENTRAL KANAWHA COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF NITRO... NORTHERN LINCOLN COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF HAMLIN... SOUTHERN PUTNAM COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... NORTHERN WAYNE COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF BEECH FORK STATE PARK... SOUTHEASTERN LAWRENCE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST OHIO... THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...PROCTORVILLE...CHESAPEAKE... * UNTIL 430 PM EDT * AT 323 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE HAIL...AND DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR CATLETTSBURG...OR NEAR CANNONSBURG...AND MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH. ---- Try again. EDIT: To add, for fun... 3 cells have clear rotation. Shocked only one warned. Your original post at 2:54pm... 40 minutes before the earliest severe report from those cells came in (which was actually east of that westernmost report that I'm seeing via the mouseover and from SPC, which occurred at 3:34pm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It's on the edge of the warning, and the report was at 3:42pm. The original warning on that cell was issued at 3:27pm, and it included Cannonsburg: http://kamala.cod.ed...927.wuus51.html BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON WV 327 PM EDT THU JUN 23 2011 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHARLESTON HAS ISSUED A * SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... BOYD COUNTY IN KENTUCKY... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF CANNONSBURG... CABELL COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF HUNTINGTON... EXTREME WEST CENTRAL KANAWHA COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF NITRO... NORTHERN LINCOLN COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF HAMLIN... SOUTHERN PUTNAM COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... NORTHERN WAYNE COUNTY IN WEST VIRGINIA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF BEECH FORK STATE PARK... SOUTHEASTERN LAWRENCE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST OHIO... THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...PROCTORVILLE...CHESAPEAKE... * UNTIL 430 PM EDT * AT 323 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE HAIL...AND DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR CATLETTSBURG...OR NEAR CANNONSBURG...AND MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH. ---- Try again. EDIT: To add, for fun... Your original post at 2:54pm... 40 minutes before the earliest severe report from those cells came in (which was actually east of that westernmost report that I'm seeing via the mouseover and from SPC, which occurred at 3:34pm). I swear on my map I had on close up it was outside the warning. But, why are we even talking about this? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 And a cell blows up to my west for the 3rd time and is moving just about 10 miles away. It's getting painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 I swear on my map I had on close up it was outside the warning. But, why are we even talking about this? lol Because you're wrong and have less-than-stellar radar interpretation skills. Hopefully you (and maybe someone else that read through it) learned something from this exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Because you're wrong and have less-than-stellar radar interpretation skills. Hopefully you (and maybe someone else that read through it) learned something from this exchange. Already then. I think your making a bigger deal out of this then it is. So I am done with this convo. If you want to continue PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 Already then. I think your making a bigger deal out of this then it is. So I am done with this convo. If you want to continue PM me. Heh. Just making sure that you and ddweatherman, who both claim to be weather forecasters on this web site you guys post on, know how to properly forecast. I'm all for spreading knowledge... and I'm finished with my "lesson of the day," so to speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Heh. Just making sure that you and ddweatherman, who both claim to be weather forecasters on this web site you guys post on, know how to properly forecast. I'm all for spreading knowledge... and I'm finished with my "lesson of the day," so to speak Understood. Anyways storm near me now strong with special weather statement. Pitch black north of me. Will I ever get hit again. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Ellinwood FTMFW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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