phil882 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Dead calm now. Very unusual weather. Hard to believe all Hell was breaking loose just 20 minutes ago. Calm before the storm???? I actually think the strong winds you witnessed might be due to lee waves coming off of the Appalachian Mountains. While its not obvious looking at visible imagery, this is simply due to the outflow coming off of the convection further northeast. I was traveling up from Greenville, SC earlier today, and witnessed some lenticular cloud formation on the edge of the outflow entering North Carolina. The clouds are a lot more visible on satellite Imagery up in Virginia. Note the areas highlighted in the visible imagery below. here is a snapshot of some of the lenticular clouds generated from the lee waves on the bottom circle in North Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 not sure where you're at exactly but eastern KY is just getting hammered now, with continuous back building just on aline from east of Lexington to Corbin and its hardly budging from that eminating point. The Jackson radar shows 1.6" to 2" in the last hour, and there's plenty more where that came from , so if this doesn't dwindle or move soon, there will be major flooding in large part of eastern Ky and ne TN, probably going to grow to sw VA as well. The only thing saving there is the lack of precedent heavy rain. Should be an interesting day. I'd love to see some heavy rain train this area , but thats hard to come by. I live about a mile to the west of the dot on the map: It keeps backbuilding slightly to the east each time it does it but not by much. I was thinking more of that would cross the mountains and get to y'all but like you said it's having a hard time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny and Warm Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 have to watch KY and the srn Apps today. The winds are sw west of the apps and nw east, with high dewpoint air being advected in, so theres a strong quasi-boundary stretching nw to se , this usually ends up being severe for TN VA and NC possibly even down to n. GA and SC as well, but it depends on how they survived the worked over environment in that area. another phase of cooling in the cloudtops over Ky and srn Ohio now, just when it was looking to end. Nice pic of the cloud tops. I notice from the trajectory that this is pointing toward my area. Any chance a MCS forms and makes it all the way to the Lowcountry of SC tonight?? The last several days, these things have died in the Empire area, and not gotten into the coastal region. HI is 99 right now. What a scorcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Storms late last night where the most intense i have seen in a long while. Numerous trees down across the area, and Beaufort had a confirmed (ASOS) 76 mph wind gust with the line.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Storms late last night where the most intense i have seen in a long while. Numerous trees down across the area, and Beaufort had a confirmed (ASOS) 76 mph wind gust with the line.... Good to see you got soemthing down there! pics/vid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Good to see you got soemthing down there! pics/vid? Nah it was like 3:30am when the worst one hit I was asleep until there was 5-10 mins with almost constant close CG strikes. We never get storms during the daytime here anymore.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Storm in Beaufort last night must have been a doozy now reports of a hanger destroyed at Michael Smith Airport ( dunno the size or construction of said hanger) but that along with a offical wind gust to 76 mph makes it one hell of a storm. Here are a few other reports from MHX http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=MHX&product=LSR&format=CI&version=3&glossary=0 A 82 MPH wind gust on Harkers Island's drawbridge... A 80 ft yacht was torn from its mooring and beached along with several sailboats...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteoutWX Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Looks like morning clouds hold down instability again today. Nothing is making it over the mountains yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoothillsNC Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Looks like morning clouds hold down instability again today. Nothing is making it over the mountains yet again. sunny here as well now, 90. The dynamics are just to our nw and probably won't make much of a push down this far south, its possible something fires up later but probably won't be a big MCC here like whats been happening in KY and OH,WVa and ne TN this morning. Meanwhile just as a curiousity, the GFS builds an extremely strong and enormous hot ridge out west over the 4 corners and Southern Rockies around days 9 and 10. I don't recall seeing temps anywhere in the US progged at +36. I've seen it as +27 and +30 a lot but +36 is extreme. To put that in perspective our biggest heat waves usually are accompanied by a 594 ridge and +21 to +24 at 850mb. I know keep in mind the elevation out west is different. If that develops it will be very bad news for the wildfires there, combined with dewpoints in the 20's and a strong hot santa ana wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Wash, rinse, repeat....lol .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM TUESDAY MORNING/... -- Changed Discussion --CUMULUS CLOUDS DEVELOPING FROM THE SAVANNAH RIVER AREA WEST. DEBRIS CLOUDS FROM CONVECTION OVER WRN NC/VA CROSSING SC IN NORTHWEST FLOW ALOFT. WARM MID LEVEL TEMPERATURES AND DOWNSLOPE WINDS WITHOUT A TRIGGER IMPLIES LITTLE OR NO CONVECTION THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. WILL OMIT POPS. DRIER AIR FILTERING IN FROM THE UPSTATE...WITH DEWPOINTS FALLING TO THE UPPER 50S TO LOWER 60S FOR THE CENTRAL AND NORTH MIDLANDS. DEWPOINTS STILL IN THE UPPER 60S TO AROUND 70 ACROSS THE CSRA. WILL CONTINUE HEAT ADVISORY THROUGH 8 PM FOR MOST OF THE MIDLANDS/CSRA/PEE DEE WITH HEAT INDEX 105 TO 108 FOR A FEW HOURS.-- End Changed Discussion -- EDIT: CAE has officially hit 100 deg for the first time this year 2014:56NW 8 G 1610.00Partly CloudyFEW090 SCT2501005629.891011.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sctvman Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 102.2 on James Island. My thermometer is usually pretty accurate, within a degree or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNCCmetgrad Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I bet it is just miserable along the SC beaches today. Temperatures in the mid and upper 90"s right up to the coast with 100-102 just inland. Even downtown Charleston was 96 at the last reported observation at 2pm with steady west winds. I'll be at Edisto Beach in two weeks. Hope its not anywhere near this bad then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I am thinking bust again here. I know Wake had something overnight but we had nothing down this way. This pattern sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Not sure why, but they've just upped our chances to 40% late afternoon and 30% tonight, mainly before 8:00. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I am not sure why SPC held on to the slight risk at the 4pm update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny and Warm Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I bet it is just miserable along the SC beaches today. Temperatures in the mid and upper 90"s right up to the coast with 100-102 just inland. Even downtown Charleston was 96 at the last reported observation at 2pm with steady west winds. I'll be at Edisto Beach in two weeks. Hope its not anywhere near this bad then. 88F temp where I am in Hilton Head with a DP of 81F. Heat Index of 104. Looks like August got here early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastonwxman Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 sunny here as well now, 90. The dynamics are just to our nw and probably won't make much of a push down this far south, its possible something fires up later but probably won't be a big MCC here like whats been happening in KY and OH,WVa and ne TN this morning. Meanwhile just as a curiousity, the GFS builds an extremely strong and enormous hot ridge out west over the 4 corners and Southern Rockies around days 9 and 10. I don't recall seeing temps anywhere in the US progged at +36. I've seen it as +27 and +30 a lot but +36 is extreme. To put that in perspective our biggest heat waves usually are accompanied by a 594 ridge and +21 to +24 at 850mb. I know keep in mind the elevation out west is different. If that develops it will be very bad news for the wildfires there, combined with dewpoints in the 20's and a strong hot santa ana wind. It's going to be tough getting used to not seeing any storms fire all the sudden across our area for a part of this week. I still dread the idea of us potentially reaching upper 90s to around 100 for highs for the mid-week period. As of now, we may luck out and get something to randomly pop up tonight but I'm not holding my breath for it just yet. SPC hasn't changed their thoughts about something going on for tonight but who knows. We've have had surprise storms before when things didn't look so good for convection. Regarding that powerful ridge the GFS is advertising, looks like the 12z Euro is pretty gung-ho about it as well; maybe a bit cooler but the difference is not significant enough to say that it looks any better than what the GFS puts out. I feel sorry for the folks living over there who may end up enduring a rather brutally hot period. We'll see if these models nail this feature in the future but for now it's a gruesome sight. I am thinking bust again here. I know Wake had something overnight but we had nothing down this way. This pattern sucks At least the 12z GFS continues to show two tropical systems developing; both originating from the Gulf. The first system it shows takes a track directly inland across the Southeast and exiting off the NC/SC coasts and the second one heading northeast through the TN and OV Valley toward the northeastern states but this is way out there (during the first week of July to be exact) so this can just as easily poof before we get closer to that period. It would be welcoming news for whoever has been missing out a lot of these MCSs/frontal events across the Southeast (including folks like you out east). Let's just hope they do not end up becoming anything stronger than needed. I'm quite interested in this idea and hope that this will bring in sufficient rains for everyone who needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 It's going to be tough getting used to not seeing any storms fire all the sudden across our area for a part of this week. I still dread the idea of us potentially reaching upper 90s to around 100 for highs for the mid-week period. As of now, we may luck out and get something to randomly pop up tonight but I'm not holding my breath for it just yet. SPC hasn't changed their thoughts about something going on for tonight but who knows. We've have had surprise storms before when things didn't look so good for convection. Regarding that powerful ridge the GFS is advertising, looks like the 12z Euro is pretty gung-ho about it as well; maybe a bit cooler but the difference is not significant enough to say that it looks any better than what the GFS puts out. I feel sorry for the folks living over there who may end up enduring a rather brutally hot period. We'll see if these models nail this feature in the future but for now it's a gruesome sight. At least the 12z GFS continues to show two tropical systems developing; both originating from the Gulf. The first system it shows takes a track directly inland across the Southeast and exiting off the NC/SC coasts and the second one heading northeast through the TN and OV Valley toward the northeastern states but this is way out there (during the first week of July to be exact) so this can just as easily poof before we get closer to that period. It would be welcoming news for whoever has been missing out a lot of these MCSs/frontal events across the Southeast (including folks like you out east). Let's just hope they do not end up becoming anything stronger than needed. I'm quite interested in this idea and hope that this will bring in sufficient rains for everyone who needs it. A tropical system would be nice I am looking for something chaseable that is for sure even if just for lightning and/or wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I wonder if all the rain lately has kept temperatures lower than forecast ? My forecast high today was 95 and it made it to 90. After a low of 74, I'm surprised it didn't get hotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I wonder if all the rain lately has kept temperatures lower than forecast ? My forecast high today was 95 and it made it to 90. After a low of 74, I'm surprised it didn't get hotter. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 I wonder if all the rain lately has kept temperatures lower than forecast ? My forecast high today was 95 and it made it to 90. After a low of 74, I'm surprised it didn't get hotter. Was it cloudy? The only stations that were below 94f were in NE GA in the mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Getting muggy out there this evening.... we've gone from 91/59 to 86/68 in the last 2½ hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I am not sure why SPC held on to the slight risk at the 4pm update. Then the 8:00CDT update has zero threat for nearly the entire Southeast US. Water hoses seem to be a big part of my immediate future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hey, Weatherfide! How much rain have you seen this month? I'm up to about 3 drops over .2 for June. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Was it cloudy? The only stations that were below 94f were in NE GA in the mountains. Nope, hardly any clouds in the sky, and my thermometer is accurate i think . It's a Vantage Pro 2 station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I thought tomorrow was going to be a dry day but maybe not after looking at the 0z NAM. Made it up to 79 today which was well below the forecasted high by about ten degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Was it cloudy? The only stations that were below 94f were in NE GA in the mountains. I've been in the low 90's here http://www.daculaweather.com/dacula_tempdetails.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossthread Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I bet it is just miserable along the SC beaches today. Temperatures in the mid and upper 90"s right up to the coast with 100-102 just inland. Even downtown Charleston was 96 at the last reported observation at 2pm with steady west winds. I'll be at Edisto Beach in two weeks. Hope its not anywhere near this bad then. i've got one thing to say.... Dear Lord our Father, PLEASE send rain to ILM areas of the Coast! Folks, IT WAS BRUTAL out yesterday, We broke another record yesterday, held 67 years, We hit 101 yesterday. I watched the Approach of the Weak frontal boundry, come, convection Die with it, and pass over/to Our South... Again NO RAIN. I had some relief during the Day, as i was King Fishing off the Pier. This is getting bad down here. I mean I know what folks are talking about that **Snow Triangle**, I'm feeling the way about rain, What's that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoothillsNC Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 the models have been too high here for several days, partly due to clouds but also not realizing the moisture in the ground, which is able to reduce the temps full potential. Today looks like the hottest for the central Carolinas and all points west this week, as heights fall and more clouds and sw winds will bring in more moisture and lower temps. Theres also a good chance of daily storms , beginning today, and carrying through the next 5 days or beyond. By late week the front will stall in the Southeast, and daily storms will fire. Not everybody will get one, but atleast they will be around, with no more big ridging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234snow Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Serious flooding took place just to the west of me in East Kentucky where at least 4-6 inches fell yesterday morning in some spots and caused 1 fatality in the town of Kayjay. Below is a write-up from NWS in Jackson, KY with rainfall totals, pictures and storm reports from the event. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=jkl&storyid=69874&source=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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