Ian Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 That's true. But, I mean plains 100+ for days cooking material. if we set our expectations unreasonably high it can only fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 That's true. But, I mean plains 100+ for days cooking material. we actually get really nice this run later this week....verbatim, after tomorrow we probably arent back in the 90s until Monday....maybe Sunday.....Thu-Sat looks real nice...I will try and enjoy that and hope the heat holds off as long as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 we actually get really nice this run later this week....verbatim, after tomorrow we probably arent back in the 90s until Monday....maybe Sunday.....Thu-Sat looks real nice...I will try and enjoy that and hope the heat holds off as long as possible Same here. And if it does get hot next week it helps I am going to Ocean city lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 That's true. But, I mean plains 100+ for days cooking material. I'm still relatively new to the area, two year anniversary of my move to Baltimore about here, but, unless I miss something, "100+ for days" isn't really our climate around here, right? The record for consecutive days of 100+ degrees cannot be more than 2 or 3 for bwi/dca/dulles, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'm still relatively new to the area, two year anniversary of my move to Baltimore about here, but, unless I miss something, "100+ for days" isn't really our climate around here, right? The record for consecutive days of 100+ degrees cannot be more than 2 or 3 for bwi/dca/dulles, right? Probably but, 98-99 with heat index above 105 is basically the same lol. Aka last years unreal heat furnace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'm still relatively new to the area, two year anniversary of my move to Baltimore about here, but, unless I miss something, "100+ for days" isn't really our climate around here, right? The record for consecutive days of 100+ degrees cannot be more than 2 or 3 for bwi/dca/dulles, right? Yup, we don't get strings of 100+ around here. Our claim to miserable fame is the mid 90's with nasty humidity. Hottest string I can remember was around July 4th 1999. I think that was at least 3 days of 100+ with one day approaching 105. I don't have the stats but my memory is pretty vivid from that year. We lost AC on July 4th - 6th and the house temp was 95. Does anyone have DCA and BWI stats from the first week of July 1999? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 if we set our expectations unreasonably high it can only fail So what you are saying is that I shouldn't have looked up the July 95 heat wave (Chicago) on NARR and noticed that next week's ridge is stronger on the 12z GFS and 00z Euro. Gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Answered my own question: DCA: 7/4/99 99 7/5/99 102 7/6/99 102 July 5th-7th 2010 had the same readings. Almost a perfect coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceFrederickWx Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Yup, we don't get strings of 100+ around here. Our claim to miserable fame is the mid 90's with nasty humidity. Hottest string I can remember was around July 4th 1999. I think that was at least 3 days of 100+ with one day approaching 105. I don't have the stats but my memory is pretty vivid from that year. We lost AC on July 4th - 6th and the house temp was 95. Does anyone have DCA and BWI stats from the first week of July 1999? I'd like to know the years at BWI that have had the most 100+ degree days. Last year had 7, which I believe is the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 So what you are saying is that I shouldn't have looked up the July 95 heat wave (Chicago) on NARR and noticed that next week's ridge is stronger on the 12z GFS and 00z Euro. Gotcha looks like we didnt hit 100 during that.. close. i think the dc record is 4 in a row? 1930. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'd like to know the years at BWI that have had the most 100+ degree days. Last year had 7, which I believe is the record. i could tell you but i'll take some hits to my site.. http://www.ianlivingston.com/2011/07/11/100-degree-days-at-washington-d-c-and-baltimore-md-yearly-counts-seasonal-average-and-extremes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceFrederickWx Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 i could tell you but i'll take some hits to my site.. http://www.ianliving...e-and-extremes/ Thanks! I didn't know 2010 tied two other years at BWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'd like to know the years at BWI that have had the most 100+ degree days. Last year had 7, which I believe is the record. 2010 had 7 100 degree days @ BWI tying 1988. 2010 was a hotter summer overall. Sorry Ian! Edit: I checked out your site after I looked it up. You have better info. How accurate was 1930? Such an anomoly considering the heat islands weren't built up and global warming hadn't kicked in. lol- jk about global warming. I'm a concerned skeptic at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 2010 had 7 100 degree days @ BWI tying 1988. 2010 was a hotter summer overall. Sorry Ian! Edit: I checked out your site after I looked it up. You have better info. How accurate was 1930? Such an anomoly considering the heat islands weren't built up and global warming hadn't kicked in. lol- jk about global warming. I'm a concerned skeptic at this point. Dust Bowl era had a lot of big heat migrating out of the Plains. Actually, as far as high temps go many of our hottest daytime temps were long ago. It could that there is increased moisture now and it's harder to heat it as quickly? Here's an article from CWG on the heat of the '30s. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/2010/06/the_heat_waves_of_the_1930s.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceFrederickWx Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Yeah, but we had this lovely winter in between: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_North_American_cold_wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 we actually get really nice this run later this week....verbatim, after tomorrow we probably arent back in the 90s until Monday....maybe Sunday.....Thu-Sat looks real nice...I will try and enjoy that and hope the heat holds off as long as possible 12Z GFS has upper 60's Friday afternoon and Saturday afternoon here, with an inch of rain in between. That's certainly too cool, but add 10-15 degrees to that and its still awesome for mid-July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Dust Bowl era had a lot of big heat migrating out of the Plains. Actually, as far as high temps go many of our hottest daytime temps were long ago. It could that there is increased moisture now and it's harder to heat it as quickly? Here's an article from CWG on the heat of the '30s. http://voices.washin..._the_1930s.html That's a great read. I'm curious to what the major pattern was for all the heat and drought. Couldn't have been the big SE ridge because that usually causes unsettled conditions in the midwest on the backside of the high right? There must have been a general zonal flow with prevailing westerlies across the US and the tropical easterlies must have been further south keeping Gulf moisture from flowing into the plains. The monsoon flow in the desert SW and Rockies must have been weak too. Does this sound right? I can't think of how else the plains can be super hot and dry while the EC roasted at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Only June 8th and 9th were hotter than today on my station. Airports not running equally high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 That's a great read. I'm curious to what the major pattern was for all the heat and drought. Couldn't have been the big SE ridge because that usually causes unsettled conditions in the midwest on the backside of the high right? There must have been a general zonal flow with prevailing westerlies across the US and the tropical easterlies must have been further south keeping Gulf moisture from flowing into the plains. The monsoon flow in the desert SW and Rockies must have been weak too. Does this sound right? I can't think of how else the plains can be super hot and dry while the EC roasted at the same time. I'm not sure, would have to look at re-analysis. I could imagine it being somewhat similar to the pattern this yr with a big heat ridge over the central u.s. bleeding east at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Only June 8th and 9th were hotter than today on my station. Airports not running equally high. DCA took a big lead this hr.. 97 v 92s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris87 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 http://www.inscc.utah.edu/~reichler/6030/presentations/Jon_DustBowl.pdf presentation with some analysis about the Dust Bowl era.... That's a great read. I'm curious to what the major pattern was for all the heat and drought. Couldn't have been the big SE ridge because that usually causes unsettled conditions in the midwest on the backside of the high right? There must have been a general zonal flow with prevailing westerlies across the US and the tropical easterlies must have been further south keeping Gulf moisture from flowing into the plains. The monsoon flow in the desert SW and Rockies must have been weak too. Does this sound right? I can't think of how else the plains can be super hot and dry while the EC roasted at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 DCA took a big lead this hr.. 97 v 92s. 10000 posts. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 10000 posts. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 4pm DCA: 97 IAD: 94 BWI: 92 My backyard: 93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'm not missing that this week.....low 70s, low humidity and a breeze in san Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 http://www.inscc.uta...on_DustBowl.pdf presentation with some analysis about the Dust Bowl era.... Thanks for the info. I wasn't far off with my simpleton guess at what happened. I did some other reading as well. The feedback cycle is probably the most interesting. Less soil moisture = less precip even when it did rain. Texas is an absolute mess right now. I saw a news story about horses starving all over the place. It's too expensive to buy feed and the pastures are crushed by drought. The only quick solution to that drought is a tropical system. Otherwise it's going to take quite a while to fill the reservoirs and get agriculture back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIC Airport Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'm not missing that this week.....low 70s, low humidity and a breeze in san Diego. Haha, I will actually be there in a couple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Made it to 92 with a h/i of 100, now down to 89 with a h/i of 98. The definition of heatwave here seems a bit timid, we're in a "heatwave" every other day right now. I'd presume a temperature threshold of 96+ would be a better idea, but even that is timid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 12Z Euro was Highs DCA Tuesday 7/19 : 100+ Wednesday 7/20: 90-95 Thursday 7/21: 105+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris87 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 12Z Euro was Highs DCA Tuesday 7/19 : 100+ Wednesday 7/20: 90-95 Thursday 7/21: 105+ are you sure you're looking at today's 12z? I see 850s in the range of 19 to 21 C for those days...not exactly triple digit heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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