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Interesting you can see to lines on the Vance Air force Base radar. Tstorms are exploding north of where the two boundries meet.

Edit: people beat me too it, Oh well.

it's closing in on waukomis now.. would be fun to drive across both. well, sorta..

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Interesting you can see to lines on the Vance Air force Base radar. Tstorms are exploding north of where the two boundries meet.

Edit: people beat me too it, Oh well.

you think that's also going to happen over hastings soon? we have 2 gust fronts right now, one coming in from the NW and one from the ne. and it looks like they'll collide right near the hastings nws office and the hastings radar site. between down there at vance afb and now in se ne, we got more cells about to ignite.

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So uh...

Tornado Watch for E. Kansas and Nebraska:

TORNADOES...HAIL TO 3 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND

GUSTS TO 80 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE

AREAS.

Not PDS

But the SVR TS watch for OK/TX...

...THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION...

EXTREMELY DAMAGING THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 80 MPH...LARGE HAIL

TO 3.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE

IN THESE AREAS.

So there's less of a threat for tornadoes, smaller maximum hail size, and all of the probabilities are equal to or lower then the Tornado watch, but it gets a PDS? :unsure:

Both are from Hales too...

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So uh...

Tornado Watch for E. Kansas and Nebraska:

TORNADOES...HAIL TO 3 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND

GUSTS TO 80 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE

AREAS.

Not PDS

But the SVR TS watch for OK/TX...

...THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION...

EXTREMELY DAMAGING THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 80 MPH...LARGE HAIL

TO 3.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE

IN THESE AREAS.

So there's less of a threat for tornadoes, smaller maximum hail size, and all of the probabilities are equal to or lower then the Tornado watch, but it gets a PDS? :unsure:

Both are from Hales too...

Probably because Hales realizes the first two PDS watches probably didn't need the PDS...as was speculated here...

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So uh...

Tornado Watch for E. Kansas and Nebraska:

TORNADOES...HAIL TO 3 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND

GUSTS TO 80 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE

AREAS.

Not PDS

But the SVR TS watch for OK/TX...

...THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION...

EXTREMELY DAMAGING THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 80 MPH...LARGE HAIL

TO 3.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE

IN THESE AREAS.

So there's less of a threat for tornadoes, smaller maximum hail size, and all of the probabilities are equal to or lower then the Tornado watch, but it gets a PDS? :unsure:

Both are from Hales too...

I'm not an expert in the field of social meteorology by any means, but a few people I know are poo-pooing the threat of storms today since the threat of tornadoes has been communicated as "low". Is it PDS to catch people's attention that the storms can still produce damage, even without tornadoes? The problem with this method is there is no uniformity in standards of when to issue a PDS. That's for another thread....

Dewpoint in El Reno is 64, Hinton is 25. The mesonet sites are separated by 27 miles. Exceptional drought FTW.

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Would a forecasted High Risk already be verified based on what we've seen?

not major coverage of tornadic cells so far... handful of multiple producers. that first cell was money in laying down some numbers.

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1329

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

0617 PM CDT MON JUN 20 2011

AREAS AFFECTED...CNTRL/ERN NEB...NRN/ERN KS...WRN IA...SERN SD

CONCERNING...TORNADO WATCH 523...524...

VALID 202317Z - 210015Z

THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TORNADO WATCH 523...524...CONTINUES.

NEW WW WILL LIKELY BE FORTHCOMING TO REPLACE PARTS OF WW 523/524 AND

TO INCLUDE PORTIONS OF SERN SD/NWRN IA.

GREATEST TORNADO THREAT SHOULD PERSIST ACROSS PORTIONS OF

CNTRL/E-CNTRL NEB N/E OF PRIMARY SURFACE CYCLONE NEAR GRI...EVOLVING

E/NEWD THROUGH THE NEXT FEW HOURS. ENLARGED HODOGRAPHS /SAMPLED BY

OMAHA VWP/ HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO 0-1 KM SRH AOA 200 M2/S2 AMIDST A

STRONGLY UNSTABLE AIR MASS WILL REMAIN VERY FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS

AND POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT TORNADOES.

FARTHER SW...TSTM CLUSTER HAS REMAINED QUASI-STATIONARY INVOF PIVOT

POINT OF SHORT WAVE TROUGH AXIS OVER NWRN KS. TORNADO THREAT SHOULD

GRADUALLY DIMINISH HERE AS SHORT WAVE TROUGH CONTINUES EWD.

STRONG LINEAR FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH THE N/S-ORIENTED SURFACE COLD

FRONT AND S/SWLY DEEP-LAYER FLOW HAVE RESULTED IN VIGOROUS UPSCALE

GROWTH AND INCIPIENT QLCS FORMATION ACROSS PORTIONS CNTRL/ERN KS. AS

MID-LEVEL SPEED MAX SHIFTS E/NEWD THIS EVENING AND SURFACE COLD POOL

STRENGTHENS...EMBEDDED LEWPS/BOWING STRUCTURES APPEAR LIKELY TO

DEVELOP...ENHANCING THE THREAT FOR DAMAGING WINDS ACROSS ERN KS/FAR

SERN NEB TOWARDS THE MO RIVER VALLEY.

..GRAMS.. 06/20/2011

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BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED

TORNADO WARNING

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GOODLAND KS

625 PM CDT MON JUN 20 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN GOODLAND HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...

NORTHEASTERN DECATUR COUNTY IN NORTHWEST KANSAS...

NORTHWESTERN NORTON COUNTY IN NORTHWEST KANSAS...

SOUTHEASTERN RED WILLOW COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA...

* UNTIL 730 PM CDT

* AT 620 PM CDT...LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT REPORTED A TORNADO 5 MILES

NORTHEAST OF NORCATUR. DOPPLER RADAR SHOWED THIS TORNADO MOVING

NORTHWEST AT 5 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...

LEBANON.

THIS INCLUDES HIGHWAY 36 IN KANSAS BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 82 AND 103.

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SJT has a really interesting warning template...

AT 621 PM CDT... THE MOST DANGEROUS PART OF THE STORM WAS LOCATED

NEAR AND JUST NORTH OF WOODSON...OR 15 MILES SOUTHEAST OF

THROCKMORTON...MOVING EAST AT 30 MPH. A TORNADO COULD DEVELOP

QUICKLY FROM THIS STORM.

STORM HAZARDS INCLUDE...

DANGEROUS TORNADIC WINDS.

LARGE DAMAGING HAIL UP TO TENNIS BALL SIZE. HAIL

DESTRUCTIVE WINDS IN EXCESS OF 70 MPH.

WITH POSSIBLE STORM IMPACTS...

OVERTURNED VEHICLES...

DAMAGE TO TREES...SOME MAY BE UPROOTED...

DAMAGE TO HOMES...MAY DESTROY MANUFACTURED HOMES...

DENTED VEHICLES...

MODERATE ROOF DAMAGE...

MAY BREAK WINDOWS ON VEHICLES AND HOMES

MAY INJURE PEOPLE...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK LEFT UNPROTECTED...

SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO TREE LIMBS...

SOME TREES MAY BE BLOWN DOWN...

SHEDS TOPPLED...

ROOF DAMAGE TO MANUFACTURED HOMES...

EXTENSIVE POWER OUTAGES...

Some of this really long impact list stuff is contradictory though...it talks about destroyed manufactured homes then later says roof damage to manufactured homes. It also mentions overturned vehicles...then a few items below...dented vehicles. Doesn't look effectively employed...

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