earthlight Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 There was no servere storms anywhere in the NYC, LI metro area SW. Just as I was calling for hours and hours ago. bro...really? 2230 UNK YONKERS WESTCHESTER NY 4095 7387 LARGE TREE DOWN ON PHILMORE STREET. ROAD CLOSED. OTHER TREES DOWN ACROSS THE TOWN. (OKX) 2000 UNK MONTGOMERY ORANGE NY 4152 7424 MANY TREES DOWN ON CARS AND STREETS AND POWER OUTAGES (OKX) 2008 UNK NEWBURGH ORANGE NY 4150 7402 TREES ... TREE LIMBS AND POWER LINES DOWN AROUND 1-84 IN NEWBURGH (OKX) 2010 UNK NEWBURGH ORANGE NY 4150 7402 TREES AND WIRES DOWN (OKX) 2057 UNK BROOKFIELD FAIRFIELD CT 4148 7341 LARGE TREE DOWN ON ROUTE 7 JUST NORTH OF 202. ROAD CLOSED. (OKX) 2115 UNK WARWICK ORANGE NY 4126 7436 LARGE LIMBS DOWN. TIME ESTIMATED FROM RADAR. (OKX) 2130 58 NORTH HAVEN NEW HAVEN CT 4138 7286 (OKX) 2205 61 NORTH HAVEN NEW HAVEN CT 4138 7286 SMALL TREES DOWN (OKX) 2215 UNK STRATFIELD FAIRFIELD CT 4121 7324 TREES DOWN ACROSS TOWN (OKX) 2200 125 HARRINGTON PARK BERGEN NJ 4099 7398 (OKX) 2207 175 NORWOOD BERGEN NJ 4099 7395 (OKX) 0230 100 BRIDGETON CUMBERLAND NJ 3943 7523 WIND ESTIMATED AT 45 MPH (PHI) 2200 UNK CHESTER MORRIS NJ 4079 7469 TREES DOWN. (PHI) 2330 UNK BOUND BROOK SOMERSET NJ 4057 7454 LARGE BRANCES DOWN (PHI) 2344 UNK ROCKY HILL SOMERSET NJ 4040 7464 LARGE BRANCHES DOWN (PHI) 2350 UNK EWING TWP MERCER NJ 4026 7480 LARGE BRANCHES DOWN (PHI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 i like the look of this... hopefully this verifies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Nothing exciting happened in my area. Just showers with a few rumbles of thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 What does this show? if you cant see this, please stop posting about how much you know about the weather around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 To be honest I tried to take some pictures of the lightning stirkes on my phone but couldn't because you never know when the lightning will strike. Here's an idea-- set your camera to movie mode, set it on a tripod and keep it at wide angle so you can capture as much of the sky as possible. You're guaranteed to get some hits. If you prefer stills over video then you have the option to edit the video later and extract a bunch of hits from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 The surface low tracked too far north, and was too weak, for a major severe weather event in NYC metro. That limited both the height falls and the shear/turning, which were meager. We had impressive convection with the 95/75 airmass, but it never developed any sustained rotation and was all in the form of a linear squall line rather than the discrete supercells we had in SNE the other day. I definitely agree with your analysis of the lack of severe weather. That being said, I think you underplayed the event a little. It was an impressive thunderstorm here in Westchester with small hail, heavy rainfall, CG lightning, and booming claps of thunder. I saw dozens of lightning strikes in the area, and there was flash flooding as the parched ground could not absorb the rapid rainfall well, with it pooling on streets and sidewalks. It was one of the best thunderstorms we've had in ages, and it's nice to have a fun event without any danger or damage to structures. My vegetable garden needed a good rain...ended up with .91" here, hoping for a little more this weekend. Rainfall continued until about 8pm or so, but much lighter than the initial gust front. Also cooled us down from a high of 93.9F to the current temperature of 68.7F. Still muggy out though, won't get rid of the humidity until tomorrow night. I saw hail for 5 min and that was very memorable for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 That was a beautiful lightning display. Best I've seen in in a while. I quite enjoyed this nonsevere outbreak (dont know what else to call it lol.)... it had everything.... lots of lightning, winds, hail and heavy rain and it lasted for hours unlike a lot of our piss poor "storms." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 if you cant see this, please stop posting about how much you know about the weather around here. Most models I could read but when I look at those maps I have trouble reading. When I look at the maps of the GFS, NAM, and others from the NWS site I could analysis pretty good but not those maps though. To me I see a stalled out front for the weekend with on and off showers and embended elevated thunderstorms thrown in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I saw hail for 5 min and that was very memorable for me. You got hail and what size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I quite enjoyed this nonsevere outbreak (dont know what else to call it lol.)... it had everything.... lots of lightning, winds, hail and heavy rain and it lasted for hours unlike a lot of our piss poor "storms." I agree and having just thunderstorm outbreak is better than having a good part of the area getting screwed where only few isolated areas get a few pulse storms and just get few general rain showers. Some isolated areas did get severe weather. The storms by me with with wind gust of 35-40 mph or possibly even more briefly with the nickle size with impressive amount of thunder and lightning that went for few hour more patch of storms that came from the city where the first one came from CT. I want note when I left I went where I had to be there was some flooding on the roads as the from very heavy rain as the result from the storms. One postive not with this event no tornadoes where it is wind and hail event where the storms did reach severe criteria and came not too far below here with the nickle size hail. This was good and I hope more strong storms like this happen more thought out the summer where the instablity and other factors need to come in play to produce some decent storms around area whether it is severe critera or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Energy Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 i like the look of this... hopefully this verifies Look up July 1, 2001 for a sim setup. Quite a bit of svr under a sim setup. That would be a good deal if those maps verified. Edit, we had a moderate risk that day too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 bro...really? 2230 UNK YONKERS WESTCHESTER NY 4095 7387 LARGE TREE DOWN ON PHILMORE STREET. ROAD CLOSED. OTHER TREES DOWN ACROSS THE TOWN. (OKX) 2000 UNK MONTGOMERY ORANGE NY 4152 7424 MANY TREES DOWN ON CARS AND STREETS AND POWER OUTAGES (OKX) 2008 UNK NEWBURGH ORANGE NY 4150 7402 TREES ... TREE LIMBS AND POWER LINES DOWN AROUND 1-84 IN NEWBURGH (OKX) 2010 UNK NEWBURGH ORANGE NY 4150 7402 TREES AND WIRES DOWN (OKX) 2057 UNK BROOKFIELD FAIRFIELD CT 4148 7341 LARGE TREE DOWN ON ROUTE 7 JUST NORTH OF 202. ROAD CLOSED. (OKX) 2115 UNK WARWICK ORANGE NY 4126 7436 LARGE LIMBS DOWN. TIME ESTIMATED FROM RADAR. (OKX) 2130 58 NORTH HAVEN NEW HAVEN CT 4138 7286 (OKX) 2205 61 NORTH HAVEN NEW HAVEN CT 4138 7286 SMALL TREES DOWN (OKX) 2215 UNK STRATFIELD FAIRFIELD CT 4121 7324 TREES DOWN ACROSS TOWN (OKX) 2200 125 HARRINGTON PARK BERGEN NJ 4099 7398 (OKX) 2207 175 NORWOOD BERGEN NJ 4099 7395 (OKX) 0230 100 BRIDGETON CUMBERLAND NJ 3943 7523 WIND ESTIMATED AT 45 MPH (PHI) 2200 UNK CHESTER MORRIS NJ 4079 7469 TREES DOWN. (PHI) 2330 UNK BOUND BROOK SOMERSET NJ 4057 7454 LARGE BRANCES DOWN (PHI) 2344 UNK ROCKY HILL SOMERSET NJ 4040 7464 LARGE BRANCHES DOWN (PHI) 2350 UNK EWING TWP MERCER NJ 4026 7480 LARGE BRANCHES DOWN (PHI) None of those reports are in the nyc or long island area, I said the weschester storm was a good one. The line was scatared and not the solid squal some here were going for including spc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 None of those reports are in the nyc or long island area, I said the weschester storm was a good one. The line was scatared and not the solid squal some here were going for including spc You said NYC, SW. numerous times. Did they move NJ? Regardless, this is the NYC METRO forum, not the noreaster27 forum, just because you didnt see anything doesnt mean it busted. Enough with the IMBY crap, its worse than winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 You said NYC, SW. numerous times. Did they move NJ? Regardless, this is the NYC METRO forum, not the noreaster27 forum, just because you didnt see anything doesnt mean it busted. Enough with the IMBY crap, its worse than winter. yea the city is 40 miles long and parts got a heavy storm...I didn't which is fine with me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 You said NYC, SW. numerous times. Did they move NJ? Regardless, this is the NYC METRO forum, not the noreaster27 forum, just because you didnt see anything doesnt mean it busted. Enough with the IMBY crap, its worse than winter. Just hit the report button, works wonders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 You said NYC, SW. numerous times. Did they move NJ? Regardless, this is the NYC METRO forum, not the noreaster27 forum, just because you didnt see anything doesnt mean it busted. Enough with the IMBY crap, its worse than winter. most people who post in this forum did not see anything, after all this is the NYC metro forum. The severe reports around these parts were much more isolated. I am done talking about this, if you think the NYC or Long Island area was hit by severe storms thats fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 most people who post in this forum did not see anything, after all this is the NYC metro forum. Your making yourself look really bad. Even if an F-5 tornado came through NYC one could argue that most of us saw nothing since the sub-forum covers millions of people and hundreds of square miles. Severe weather is almost always isolated except during the most severe outbreaks. Keep in mind that even with a moderate risk yesterday, the probability of seeing something severe was only 45%. Would you take a bet on those odds? If we had 10-30 kts of more shear we could have pulled off a major severe outbreak yesterday, but just like most times, something was slightly off. The largest hail I've ever seen in person has been just larger than pea sized. I would give a whole winter with no snow just to get one good severe hail storm. I really thought yesterday would be the day with a very rare 30% hatched hail outlook but the strongest storms missed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 most people who post in this forum did not see anything, after all this is the NYC metro forum. The severe reports around these parts were much more isolated. I am done talking about this, if you think the NYC or Long Island area was hit by severe storms thats fine. Yes, and NJ is part of the the NYC metro area....incidentally, its also SW of NYC, where you claimed it would miss. Also, isolated != miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 lmao@ noreaster27 if he's not trolling I have no clue what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 lmao@ noreaster27 if he's not trolling I have no clue what he's doing. go back and quote all my posts in this theard, I wasn't very far off. Yes their were hail reports in western NJ and one near sandy hook, that fits into isolated reports. The squal line that was forecasted to rip into NYC never happened. Its ok guys those who got hit were able to enjoy it. At least it was fun to track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 go back and quote all my posts in this theard, I wasn't very far off. Yes their were hail reports in western NJ and one near sandy hook, that fits into isolated reports. The squal line that was forecasted to rip into NYC never happened. Its ok guys those who got hit were able to enjoy it. At least it was fun to track. You need a geography class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 go back and quote all my posts in this theard, I wasn't very far off. Yes their were hail reports in western NJ and one near sandy hook, that fits into isolated reports. The squal line that was forecasted to rip into NYC never happened. Its ok guys those who got hit were able to enjoy it. At least it was fun to track. THIS, SE NY state got hammered and that is very much part of this sub-forum. In fact, the only areas that really didn't see much were central northern NJ and most of LI. LI got that nasty squall line but as it was dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Don't even bother explaining this to someone who is now arguing for the sake of pride and doesn't want to know. Until you actually experience severe weather, you don't appreciate how rare it is and how amazingly localized some of this stuff happens. I know, I know...next he is going to tell me about all the severe weather he has experienced etc etc. and blah blah blah. Well, if it is true that you've experienced severe weather, then you know what man, you haven't learned anything from it and you are contaminating the forums with your idiocy and teaching younger people, or enthusiasts who havent experienced true severe weather, nonsense. The only time widespread severe weather occurs is when something monumental happens like a giant derecho or a huge macroburst that engulfs a decent sized area; otherwise, this crap is significantly localized. In fact, I could pick a random town in a random state right now and make the proclamation that "town x will not see severe weather for the rest of the year " and likely verify. It is very easy to predict that severe weather won't happen somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 THIS, SE NY state got hammered and that is very much part of this sub-forum. In fact, the only areas that really didn't see much were central northern NJ and most of LI. LI got that nasty squall line but as it was dying. Funny I reported my hail to Upton but never got added on there but it was around 10 PM when I got home when I made the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 Funny I reported my hail to Upton but never got added on there but it was around 10 PM when I got home when I made the report. How big was the hail? If it wasn't at least 1" in diameter they wouldn't send it in. That's slightly bigger than quarter size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 go back and quote all my posts in this theard, I wasn't very far off. Yes their were hail reports in western NJ and one near sandy hook, that fits into isolated reports. The squal line that was forecasted to rip into NYC never happened. Its ok guys those who got hit were able to enjoy it. At least it was fun to track. NYC/LI typically do not see the worst of these squall lines or severe wx events until August and September...July certainly has it moments as well though typically you still some weakening of the lines as the ocean temps can occasionally still be running relatively cool.....I cannot recall many June events where a line held together with high end severe conditions occurring across the area...6/22/97 and 5/29/95 are a couple that stand out...both following very mild winters when the water temps were a bit warmer than normal in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 The slight risk zone needs to be expanded quite a bit eastward. Those storms in Western PA are quickly intensifying as they enter a weak to moderatly unstable air mass despite vey low shear profiles. They have already passed east of the slight risk zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 The SPC WRF has some pulse type convection this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 New HRRR: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 That line is really organizing in western PA. Bowing now beginning to take shape. I would expect a warning or two to come shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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