Stevo6899 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 HA!!! We just missed the convection from that MCS. It looks severe too. just woke up. Where did it originate? east in canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 just woke up. Where did it originate? east in canada? Yep, it came off of Lake Huron. Sunrise was delayed for about a half hour because of the cloud debris from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 There's some nice directional shear near the front on Friday. Low level flow isn't all that robust though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Amazing storm early this morning UPDATED WEATHER SUMMARY FOR ALL OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO AND THE NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA AT 11:38 AM EDT TUESDAY 7 JUNE 2011. ------------------------------------------------------------- ==WEATHER EVENT DISCUSSION== AN INTENSE LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS MOVED ACROSS SOUTHERN ONTARIO OVERNIGHT INTO EARLY THIS MORNING. IT WAS ACCOMPANIED BY REPORTS OF STRONG DAMAGING WIND GUSTS, LARGE HAIL AS WELL AS NEARLY CONTINUOUS INTENSE LIGHTNING IN SOME AREAS. THE CANADIAN LIGHTNING DETECTION NETWORK IDENTIFIED AN IMPRESSIVE 80,000 FLASHES OF LIGHTNING OVER SOUTHERN ONTARIO WITH THIS STORM. FOLLOWING ARE SOME OF THE REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER RECEIVED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA. TIME LOCATION EVENT 2:40 AM GODERICH GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL, 43 MM RAIN 2:50 AM RIPLEY (SE KINCARDINE) TREES DOWN ~4:30 AM GRAND BEND 50 MM RAIN 5:15 AM LONDON 102 KM/H WIND GUSTS 6:35 AM CHATHAM 2 CM HAIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 According to DTX updated HWO/Aviation Discussion, the lake breeze boundary may ignite an isolated severe storm this afternoon/evening. Right now the boundary looks to extend from DET northward through Western Macomb, NE Oakland, and SE Lapeer Counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Outside of the frequent lightning and dark green skies, it wasn't that windy here at the shore. The KBKL rain gauge has been broke for quite some time now, but probably an inch if rain when it's all done. Saw a nice thunderstorm here, plenty of CG lightning with a surface inversion to better channel the sound of the thunder. Saw a brief period of pea sized hail and winds probably to 40-45MPH that took down a lot of small limbs/branches, but nothing large. Definitely a lot of storm reports sent into CLE this morning. Mostly wind damage and marginal hail, although there was a 2" hail report out in Lorain county and "numerous trees and power lines down across Trumbull county" which suggest locally more intense severe weather accompanied this MCS. http://www.crh.noaa....on=1&glossary=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 According to DTX updated HWO/Aviation Discussion, the lake breeze boundary may ignite an isolated severe storm this afternoon/evening. Right now the boundary looks to extend from DET northward through Western Macomb, NE Oakland, and SE Lapeer Counties. There is some CU south of west of Detroit, but nothing near Detroit along the Lake Breeze boundary: Maybe some subsidence behind the MCS that moved just to your east this morning keeping things from popping thus far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Maybe some subsidence behind the MCS that moved just to your east this morning keeping things from popping thus far? Well besides that the atmosphere's firmly capped anyway with 700mb temps of 9*C. One would need something much stronger than a lake breeze to fire off something with that type of warm air aloft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 The only CU we had was around noon-1PM, but skies have been clear since. There is some CU south of west of Detroit, but nothing near Detroit along the Lake Breeze boundary: Maybe some subsidence behind the MCS that moved just to your east this morning keeping things from popping thus far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 AREA FORECAST DISCUSSIONNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MILWAUKEE/SULLIVAN WI 305 PM CDT TUE JUN 7 2011 .TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY - FORECAST CONFIDENCE - MEDIUM TO HIGH. NAM/GFS/ECMWF/CANADIAN MODELS ALL TRYING TO GENERATE QPF WITH ELEVATED CONVECTION ACROSS THE FAR WESTERN COUNTIES AND WEST OF THERE MAINLY LATER TONIGHT. 850MB LOW LEVEL JET POINTS INTO THIS AREA LATER TONIGHT...THOUGH HAS TO DEAL WITH STRONG CAPPING. WOULD TAKE STRONG LIFT IN THIS LAYER UP TO 700MB TO GENERATE ANY ELEVATED CONVECTION. WITHOUT ANY REAL MIDDLE TO UPPER LEVEL FORCING MECHANISMS TO HELP OUT...FEEL CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION ARE LOW. LEFT SLIGHT CHANCE POPS IN THE WEST LATER TONIGHT. WARM AND HUMID NIGHT EXPECTED ACROSS THE AREA...WITH 925MB TEMPERATURES REMAINING IN THE MID 20S CELSIUS RANGE. WENT WITH LOWER TO MID 70S. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO BE A BIT COOLER THAN TODAY...MAINLY LOWER 90S. THIS IS FROM COMBINATION OF SLIGHTLY COOLER 925MB TEMPERATURES...AND POSSIBLE MIDDLE TO HIGH CLOUDS MOVING INTO THE AREA DURING THE AFTERNOON. DEW POINTS POSSIBLY MIXING DOWN A BIT DURING THE AFTERNOON KEEPS HEAT INDEX VALUES IN THE MID 90S...WITH SOME UPPER 90S POSSIBLE IN THE FAR SOUTH. THUS...WILL NOT ISSUE ANOTHER HEAT ADVISORY FOR WEDNESDAY AT THIS TIME. WILL BE CLOSE AND LATER SHIFTS WILL HAVE TO MONITOR. THUNDERSTORM CHANCES TO INCREASE FROM NORTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE AREA MAINLY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON...AHEAD OF ADVANCING COLD FRONT. AREA FORECAST SOUNDINGS FROM NAM/GFS SHOWING MEAN LAYER CAPES OF 2500 TO 3000 J/KG...WITH DEEP LAYER SHEAR INCREASING TO 35 TO 40 KNOTS DURING THE AFTERNOON. CAP ERODES BY LATE AFTERNOON IN THE NORTHWEST AREAS...WHICH SHOULD RESULT IN CONVECTION FORMING ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. COMBINATION OF CAPE AND SHEAR SUGGESTS SEVERE WEATHER WITH SUPERCELLS A GOOD BET. WET MICROBURST POTENTIAL IS STRONG...ALONG WITH HIGH CAPE IN THE SIGNIFICANT HAIL GROWTH ZONE. LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS ARE THE PRIMARY HAZARDS. AN ISOLATED TORNADO COULD NOT BE RULED OUT...WITH MEAN LAYER LCLS A BIT ON THE HIGH SIDE. WENT LIKELY IN THE NORTHWEST DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON...WITH SEVERE WORDING ACROSS MOST OF THE AREA. .WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT - FORECAST CONFIDENCE - MEDIUM. COLD FRONT WILL BE PASSING THROUGH SOUTHERN WISCONSIN WEDNESDAY EVENING WITH AN EXPECTED LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS ALONG AND AHEAD AS IT PUSHES SOUTHEAST. HIGH CAPES...MODERATE 0-6 KM SHEAR...AND MODERATE TO STRONG 0-1 KM SHEAR WILL LIKELY LEAD TO SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS LASTING THROUGH MUCH OF THE EVENING. STRONGEST SHEAR LOOKS TO BE ACROSS OUR NORTHERN AREA. THUNDERSTORMS MAY BE DISCRETE AT THE ONSET EARLY IN THE EVENING...BUT IS EXPECTED TO MERGE INTO AN ADVANCING SQUALL LINE...WITH POSSIBLE EMBEDDED SUPERCELLS ALONG THE LEADING EDGE. GIVEN THE ATMOSPHERIC PARAMETERS...LARGE HAIL...DAMAGING WINDS...AND A FEW ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE. SQUALL LINE SHOULD EXIT SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN BY AROUND MIDNIGHT AS COLD FRONT PUSHES THROUGH. BOTH THE GFS AND EUROPEAN PUSH THE COLD FRONT SOUTHEAST BY 06Z...BUT THE NAM IS A FEW HOURS SLOWER. SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES INTO THE GREAT LAKES REGION LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY WITH NORTHEASTERLY SURFACE WINDS. FOCUS THEN TURNS TO DEVELOPING LOW PRESSURE ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND THE COLD FRONT BECOMING STATIONARY ACROSS CENTRAL ILLINOIS ON THURSDAY. IN RESPONSE TO THE DEVELOPING LOW ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS...850 MB SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW QUICKLY PUSHES INTO SOUTHERN IOWA AND NORTHERN ILLINOIS THURSDAY AFTERNOON. 850 MB WAA GRADUALLY INCREASES ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS AND SOUTHERN WISCONSIN ON THURSDAY...WHICH WILL LIKELY LEAD TO SOME ELEVATED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLY A FEW THUNDERSTORMS. THE NAM IS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE WITH BRINGING QPF INTO THE AREA THURSDAY AFTERNOON...BUT THE GFS AND ECMWF BOTH SHOW QPF THURSDAY EVENING. GFS AND NAM MODEL SOUNDINGS INDICATE AROUND 500 J/KG OF CAPE AFTER 00Z FRIDAY WHICH IS DEFINITELY SUFFICENT ENOUGH FOR SOME ELEVATED THUNDERSTORMS. SURFACE LOW IS THEN EXPECTED TO TRACK NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH IA FRIDAY AFTERNOON INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN FRIDAY EVENING. PERIODS OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE DAY FRIDAY AS A WARM FRONT PUSHES NORTHWARD TO NEAR THE ILLINOIS/WISCONSIN STATE LINE. AT THIS POINT...ANY THUNDERSTORMS WILL LIKELY REMAIN ELEVATED ON FRIDAY UNLESS THE SURFACE WARM FRONT CAN REACH INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN. SATURDAY AND SUNDAY...FORECAST CONFIDENCE - MEDIUM. STRONG 500 MB SHORTWAVE AND SURFACE LOW WILL EXIT THE AREA EARLY SATURDAY MORNING WITH SOME LINGERING SHOWERS POSSIBLE IN THE EAST. UPPER RIDGING SETTLES IN LATER SATURDAY WITH WEAK SURFACE FLOW AND DRIER CONDITIONS. THE UPPER RIDGING AND DRY WEATHER WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MOST OF SUNDAY. COOL AIRMASS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE FOR THE WEEKEND WITH 925 MB TEMPS BETWEEN 10 AND 15 C...RESULTING IN BELOW NORMAL TEMPS. MONDAY AND TUESDAY...FORECAST CONFIDENCE - MEDIUM. LATE SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY THE GFS SHOWS 850 MB WINDS SWITCHING AROUND OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST WITH WAA ACROSS THE AREA. THERE ARE MODEL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE GFS AND ECMWF WITH THE TRANSITIONING TO SOUTHWEST FLOW AS THE ECMWF WAITS UNTIL MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY FOR ANY WAA. THE GFS IS MUCH WEAKER WITH THE SURFACE HIGH ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES VERSUS THE ECMWF...ALLOWING FOR THE EARLIER WAA AND PRECIP. EITHER WAY...SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM CHANCES MOVE BACK IN FOR MONDAY AND TUESDAY. Looks like a decent little severe event for most of Southern Wisconsin tomorrow afternoon into the evening. Of course, I get the feeling something will go wrong. Leftover convection from overnight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Storms are starting to pop in North Dakota. This is a situation where storms are overly sheared. The storms are running toward a low-surface based CAPE environment, but the deep layer shear is 40-70 knots. The initial storms will probably be ripped apart by shear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Looks like a decent little severe event for most of Southern Wisconsin tomorrow afternoon into the evening. Of course, I get the feeling something will go wrong. Leftover convection from overnight? most unlikely, instability won't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 most unlikely, instability won't be an issue. Yeah, I didn't think so, although I think instability could be an issue further west, like Western Wisconsin and N Iowa/S Minnesota, as activity is more likely there overnight into early tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London snowsquall Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Amazing storm early this morning UPDATED WEATHER SUMMARY FOR ALL OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO AND THE NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA AT 11:38 AM EDT TUESDAY 7 JUNE 2011. ------------------------------------------------------------- ==WEATHER EVENT DISCUSSION== AN INTENSE LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS MOVED ACROSS SOUTHERN ONTARIO OVERNIGHT INTO EARLY THIS MORNING. IT WAS ACCOMPANIED BY REPORTS OF STRONG DAMAGING WIND GUSTS, LARGE HAIL AS WELL AS NEARLY CONTINUOUS INTENSE LIGHTNING IN SOME AREAS. THE CANADIAN LIGHTNING DETECTION NETWORK IDENTIFIED AN IMPRESSIVE 80,000 FLASHES OF LIGHTNING OVER SOUTHERN ONTARIO WITH THIS STORM. FOLLOWING ARE SOME OF THE REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER RECEIVED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA. TIME LOCATION EVENT 2:40 AM GODERICH GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL, 43 MM RAIN 2:50 AM RIPLEY (SE KINCARDINE) TREES DOWN ~4:30 AM GRAND BEND 50 MM RAIN 5:15 AM LONDON 102 KM/H WIND GUSTS 6:35 AM CHATHAM 2 CM HAIL Power was knocked out to 10,000 people in London early this morning with these storms, with mutliple trees, tree limbs and power lines down throughout the city. An incredible lightning show that probably lasted up to 2 hours locally, and the line of storms really packed a punch considering the time of the morning that it struck. I certainly wasn't expecting anything like that when I went to bed and I wasn't up when 'On_Wx' posted the watch info from Env. Canada around 1:30 am, so the 4:30 AM thunder was a big surprise and wake-up call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Power was knocked out to 10,000 people in London early this morning with these storms, with mutliple trees, tree limbs and power lines down throughout the city. An incredible lightning show that probably lasted up to 2 hours locally, and the line of storms really packed a punch considering the time of the morning that it struck. I certainly wasn't expecting anything like that when I went to bed and I wasn't up when 'On_Wx' posted the watch info from Env. Canada around 1:30 am, so the 4:30 AM thunder was a big surprise and wake-up call. It was a pretty incredible MCS that's now in North Carolina. KW missed out on the worst of the line, but some of the pictures and videos coming out of southwestern Ontario are just incredible with how much damage the area sustained. From about Woodstock to west and southwest of London and towards Chatham apparently there are hundreds or more trees and hydro lines down. I wasn't expecting any severe weather either. The watch came as a total surprise and I honestly brushed it off. And the lightning, just unreal. From about 2am the sky began to light up as the storms were coming off the Lake and the lightning continued until after 6am. About 330-615am there was constant lightning in the KW area. Nothing like what happened across Lambton and Middlesex counties, though. Nearly every lightning marker down that way was for over 100 strikes per hour. EC detected 80,000 strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontonian Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 It was a pretty incredible MCS that's now in North Carolina. Yes, That was pretty good over this way too. MCS are not common here but two in last four days is great. Maybe something tonight as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Yes, That was pretty good over this way too. MCS are not common here but two in last four days is great. Maybe something tonight as well. Also interesting to note that Exeter WSO radar has been offline since this morning. That area took a hit from the damaging winds and quarter to golf ball sized hail. Maybe the storms had something to do with it, especially since many are still without power in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Tomorrow's event just starting to get into the RUC's range, and the reflectively goes from nothing to this: http://ruc.noaa.gov/rucnew/displayMap.cgi?keys=ruc7t:&runtime=2011060723&plot_type=cref_sfc&fcst=24&time_inc=60&num_times=25&model=ruc&ptitle=RUC Model Fields&maxFcstLen=24&fcstStrLen=-1&domain=full&adtfn=1&wjet=1 in two hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Tomorrow's event just starting to get into the RUC's range, and the reflectively goes from nothing to this: http://ruc.noaa.gov/...=ruc&ptitle=RUC Model Fields&maxFcstLen=24&fcstStrLen=-1&domain=full&adtfn=1&wjet=1 in two hours. Link is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 http://ruc.noaa.gov/rucnew/displayMap.cgi?keys=ruc7t:&runtime=2011060723&plot_type=cref_sfc&fcst=24&time_inc=60&num_times=25&model=ruc&ptitle=RUC%20Model%20Fields&maxFcstLen=24&fcstStrLen=-1&domain=full&adtfn=1&wjet=1 Sorry, I hope this works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 There's yet another MCS over Lake Huron, getting ready to sweep across portions of southeast Ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 There's yet another MCS over Lake Huron, getting ready to sweep across portions of southeast Ontario. This one looks to probably go North and East of the area that was hit last night, looks more like Kitchener/Waterloo over to Hamilton areas could get it in the next few hours along with Buffalo unless it makes a hard right like last nights MCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I only glanced at the 0z NAM but it looked like the "midwest" 4 corners area of KS/NE/MO/IA have a nice looking setup on thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoof Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 There's yet another MCS over Lake Huron, getting ready to sweep across portions of southeast Ontario. What an exciting time for our Ontario friends... maybe the 3rd strong MCS in 4 days or so! I wish I would get one here in Central Michigan, the garden is getting very dry and needs a lot of watering but the pump here sucks so it takes forever to manually water everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 This is really strange??? Sounds like it should be a warning? SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA AT 11:30 PM EDT TUESDAY 7 JUNE 2011. --------------------------------------------------------------------- WATCHES/WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR SOUTHERN ONTARIO... TORNADO WATCH FOR: =NEW= WINGHAM - BLYTH - NORTHERN HURON COUNTY =NEW= MOUNT FOREST - ARTHUR - NORTHERN WELLINGTON COUNTY =NEW= SAUGEEN SHORES - KINCARDINE - SOUTHERN BRUCE COUNTY =NEW= HANOVER - DUNDALK - SOUTHERN GREY COUNTY. A VERY INTENSE THUNDERSTORM NEAR BETWEEN WALKERTON AND MILDMAY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE A TORNADO. THIS THUNDERSTORM IS HEADING SOUTH-SOUTHEASTWARD AND IS EXPECTED TO BE TO BE NEAR HARRISTON IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 This is really strange??? Sounds like it should be a warning? SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA AT 11:30 PM EDT TUESDAY 7 JUNE 2011. --------------------------------------------------------------------- WATCHES/WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR SOUTHERN ONTARIO... TORNADO WATCH FOR: =NEW= WINGHAM - BLYTH - NORTHERN HURON COUNTY =NEW= MOUNT FOREST - ARTHUR - NORTHERN WELLINGTON COUNTY =NEW= SAUGEEN SHORES - KINCARDINE - SOUTHERN BRUCE COUNTY =NEW= HANOVER - DUNDALK - SOUTHERN GREY COUNTY. A VERY INTENSE THUNDERSTORM NEAR BETWEEN WALKERTON AND MILDMAY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE A TORNADO. THIS THUNDERSTORM IS HEADING SOUTH-SOUTHEASTWARD AND IS EXPECTED TO BE TO BE NEAR HARRISTON IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR. I think there should be at least Severe Warnings with that complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontonian Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 What an exciting time for our Ontario friends... maybe the 3rd strong MCS in 4 days or so! I wish I would get one here in Central Michigan, Ya 3 strong MCS in 4 days is almost unheard of around here. I am so conditioned to seeing these things falling apart after Michigan was hit. This is heading right for Toronto will see if Lake Ontario will kill it as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 There is a massive storm moving into my county the lightning is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Do they at least have a warning on it? Nice MCS, has some big hail showing up, and some wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Signals for severe and flooding still looking decent on the 00z runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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