MJO812 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 9z ETA and 12z Nam are interesting. They have the low in Maine retrogading all the way to SNE. Looks like some accumulating snows for SNE/NNE and snow showers/flurries for our area. Lets see if the other 12z runs show this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 12Z GFS.... incoming.. let's see if there's any consistancy in that long range storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 SREF mean hinting at some snow from first retrograding storm making it into areas just NE of where NAM is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 well.. so far it doesn't look like anything different with the placement of that first system coming down from the midwest towards the mid-atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 well.. so far it doesn't look like anything different with the placement of that first system coming down from the midwest towards the mid-atlantic. Looks like D.C also misses out on this clipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 well.. so far it doesn't look like anything different with the placement of that first system coming down from the midwest towards the mid-atlantic. yea i think we can bag that...im eager to see what it does with the retro, aka a 12z nam solution of further south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Would love to start seeing some run to run consistency on the GFS for the long range storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 now I'm seeing a slight difference as compared to the last run. The shortwave is a bit flatter and weaker... just slightly.. it might go a bit farther south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Ncep is trying my patients....anyone have a link to another model page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Ncep is trying my patients....anyone have a link to another model page? id give you twister.com, but they are even slower lol. try ewall, but that only goes to like 144 or 180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 12z nam retro into southern maine looks bogus through 54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Ncep is trying my patients....anyone have a link to another model page? http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller?prevPage=Model&MainPage=index&model=GFS&area=NAMER&areaDesc=North+America+-+US%2C+Canada%2C+and+northern+Mexico&page=Model&prevModel=GFS&prevArea=&currKey=region&prevKey=region&cat=MODEL+GUIDANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 id give you twister.com, but they are even slower lol. try ewall, but that only goes to like 144 or 180 http://mag.ncep.noaa...=MODEL+GUIDANCE Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 12z nam retro into southern maine looks bogus through 54 The NAM past hour 48 is crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 12z nam retro into southern maine looks bogus through 54 NAM had the low out in the ocean at hour 54. GFS has it in Maine already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 the clipper is definitely considerably further south and weaker.. all of the 500 mb height lines shifted south a good 60 miles or so. Verbatim, it appears to give snow flurries even down to the carolina coast possibly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 the clipper is definitely considerably further south and weaker.. all of the 500 mb height lines shifted south a good 60 miles or so. Verbatim, it appears to give snow flurries even down to the carolina coast possibly Amazing what the NAO block can do....i bet NC sees the best snow out of the clipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Amazing what the NAO block can do....i bet NC sees the best snow out of the clipper east of the appalacians... yea, looks like southwestern virginia... it look like Chicago does pretty good from it before it fizzles out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 12z GFS also retrogades the low south. Doesn't show as much precip as the Nam did. The RH field is juicy for the area. http://mag.ncep.noaa...010+12UTC+081HR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 so, it looks like that storm which bombs out off the coast of Maine is a bit stronger than the last run as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 At H102, a 968 mb low just east of Maine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 12z GFS has snow showers and flurries throughout the whole northeast for most of the week. The Ull keeps on spinning and spinning. The Lake areas are going to get smoked. Looks like a wintry week coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Good conditions for pop-up type snow squalls and flurries for a few days, according to GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 at 156, the trof along the east coast is definitely deeper this run.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 850 line makes it almost to Miami at hour 150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 so, now a big difference I'm seeing at the 168 time range is that the PV in Canada has come significantly further south than the last run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 so, now a big difference I'm seeing at the 168 time range is that the PV in Canada has come significantly further south than the last run. almost looks like 0z euro last night, driving the cold in around the 204 hr, though the orientation looks like its aimed at boston instead of buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 yea, this is a huge difference.. this will be interesting to see how it changes this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 so even more colder and dryer? I think people will be a little surprised at the snow shower activity and occasional strong snow squalls for 3-4 days next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 504 thickness just entered maine at hr 186 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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