cpickett79 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Its too bad though we can't get the actual CCB to back SW down the coast of ME. this is not off the table thou is it will? is there something synoptically that we need to see to get that happening like the 12z did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 The best cold is clearly on the other side of the pole though. This Neg NAO (and undercutting trough) is pulling down all the cold it could muster and at 60 hours we cant get the 516 line below Thunder Bay Ontario. Not saying it isn't chilly - just not impressive compared to Europe, etc. Agreed, we have been locked into this intergalacticplanetary torch for so long that any cold, feels colder and we are drooling over it. Meanwhile(imby) today was normal, tomorrow is normal, and saturday is normal, with only slightly below normal departures next week, its really not THAT cold.....just nice and chilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Well we actually would want the block a little stronger for this setup since we are trying to retrograde a system in here. With a stronger block, instead of the low retrograding into N ME, you'd have it come back to southern ME or just offshore MA which would be ideal. As depcited, I think we'll probably see scattered snow showers/flurries around on Saturday night...it does have some decent rh wrapping around the mid-level center into SNE. Its too bad though we can't get the actual CCB to back SW down the coast of ME. My impressions too nice 528 overhead, need the block to get stronger to pinwheel this into Maine Jayhawks backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Hour 66 on the nam four panel chart, is the ideal sne screw job, just look at that map, On to 12/12, let there be snow, off to bed cya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 this is not off the table thou is it will? is there something synoptically that we need to see to get that happening like the 12z did. Move the block SW 150 miles would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Agreed, we have been locked into this intergalacticplanetary torch for so long that any cold, feels colder and we are drooling over it. Meanwhile(imby) today was normal, tomorrow is normal, and saturday is normal, with only slightly below normal departures next week, its really not THAT cold.....just nice and chilly. And, we need this strong NAO to avoid a national torch it seems. That said, Cahir area has a deep trof so no wonder we don't have much cold to work with. The good news is that flips in a big way over the next few days and that's what the Euro is seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 NAM actually shows a lot of snow showers and maybe even some brief steadier light snow over the region on Sunday afternoon/evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 If we're not going to snow. Might as well torch. That's just how I see it. What's good about highs in the 20s? Record cold, that's a different story. The block is rearing its ugly head again in 2010-2011. Ok, I'm ready for the "But we need to establish the cold before we snow comments..." I just think it sucks that we've gone from talking about a serious threat to talking about previous snow events lol. Its almost like we moved back into early november again. I'm patient though. I didn't expect much from this time period anyways. I just don't want to see a block right over our heads again like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 NAM actually shows a lot of snow showers and maybe even some brief steadier light snow over the region on Sunday afternoon/evening Couple of things, Nam deepens 5 H overhead,, leave it to the Nam to make storm 2 a STS with a bonafide warm core with 50 knot sustained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Wow the weeklies are impressive. here they go. Will....you know what to do. LOL, if I woke up from a coma...no when in hell would I think this is a strong Nina. I know you are not a big fan but the AO state out rules NINa, the strongest star in our sight said so in the spring last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 That is just one sick -NAO...wow. That's also a pretty damn good pattern for the Pacific North West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I know you are not a big fan but the AO state out rules NINa, the strongest star in our sight said so in the spring last year. Why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 That is just one sick -NAO...wow. That's also a pretty damn good pattern for the Pacific North West. Wiz you really screwed up that Skywarn report on the museums winds yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Is Euro week 2 a signal for a big mid atlantic KU? And does weeks 3 and 4 look to open things up for storms to get up in ne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Wiz you really screwed up that Skywarn report on the museums winds yesterday. what do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Is Euro week 2 a signal for a big mid atlantic KU? And does weeks 3 and 4 look to open things up for storms to get up in ne? Well the signal is there for the east coast. It's tough to say exactly how the pattern would shape up, since the anomalies naturally dampen out in time, but that's a pretty good pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 what do you mean? Text said at elevation 250 feet, it's 250 feet of the ground at elevation total of550 Met with some techies today, good probability we get an online weather station up there soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Text said at elevation 250 feet, it's 250 feet of the ground at elevation total of550 Met with some genies today, good probability we get an online weather station up there soon! ahhh did you mention that 550? may have missed that...was really crazy at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Why do you say that? You have posted about solar influences not being that big before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 ahhh did you mention that 550? may have missed that...was really crazy at the time. Geezus. The key being 250 feet in the air! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Will, What are you seeing for Monday night in foxborough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Will, What are you seeing for Monday night in foxborough? Cold and dry I suspect. Snow showers would mainly be for late Sat night and Sunday/Sun night. But with ull still overhead i guess you couldnt rule out flurries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Will, What are you seeing for Monday night in foxborough? Pats by 3 heavy coats muffled applause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Cold and dry I suspect. Snow showers would mainly be for late Sat night and Sunday/Sun night. But with ull still overhead i guess you couldnt rule out flurries. Yeah it should be pretty chilly and likely on the dry side...perfect football weather. Besides the cold I also foresee something you don't see in Dallas, a home team win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Scooter is writing a Masters thesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 NAM actually shows a lot of snow showers and maybe even some brief steadier light snow over the region on Sunday afternoon/evening Yeah, it definitely holds serve with the snow this weekend. 32F with -SN for the past couple hours... cars have a nice white dusting on them. Nothing better than watching model runs for a winter storm as flakes fly past the window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 You have posted about solar influences not being that big before. I think you may be confusing some of the stuff about solar and near term stuff. That was tropical related, and I wasn't skeptical (since I'm no expert), I just said that I think sometimes things get over-analyzed too much when we as a community uncover new stuff. I do think it has more long term implications. Given the history of past Ninas from years ago...I do think that there is obviously other factors at work when we still pop a strong -nao during a mdt or strong ENSO event. This isn't even related to what's going on now..just saying this, based on the Ninas during the -nao decadal phase. I'm not at all implying we are in one currently..we still need some more years to figure that out, but given the nao lifecycle time...we are probably sliding into one. Of course we could flip + in January and February..we just don't know. My guess is we won't flip to a big + trend during these two months, but I won't be shocked if we torch for a time. Although, given the trends...who knows..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 NAM has Caribou pouring rain Saturday night/Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Yeah, it definitely holds serve with the snow this weekend. 32F with -SN for the past couple hours... cars have a nice white dusting on them. Nothing better than watching model runs for a winter storm as flakes fly past the window I've cleared my mid week schedule for some skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I think you may be confusing some of the stuff about solar and near term stuff. That was tropical related, and I wasn't skeptical (since I'm no expert), I just said that I think sometimes things get over-analyzed too much when we as a community uncover new stuff. I do think it has more long term implications. Given the history of past Ninas from years ago...I do think that there is obviously other factors at work when we still pop a strong -nao during a mdt or strong ENSO event. This isn't even related to what's going on now..just saying this, based on the Ninas during the -nao decadal phase. I'm not at all implying we are in one currently..we still need some more years to figure that out, but given the nao lifecycle time...we are probably sliding into one. Of course we could flip + in January and February..we just don't know. My guess is we won't flip to a big + trend during these two months, but I won't be shocked if we torch for a time. Although, given the trends...who knows..lol. Nice thesis lol, gotcha though, The ice puss. Ies would love that TS the nam spins up, the core on that is plus 30 C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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