Allsnow Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I wonder how many times one person can be wrong calling for big heat in the summer....? John you trying out this year? Plus please don't think with this post that im backing down from my statement. I said it had nothing to do with temps. So post all those fancy temp maps. Then after you can make a severe weather forcast that you always do well on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 +2 so far for June around these parts, driven by warm nightime lows, but facts are facts, april may and now june have been all above normal at my locale (BDR). Last summer skewed things somewhat, and 2009 certainly did as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Also, if you want to go further on the 2009 comparison...here's the hard data. 30 day period 2009 from May 23-June 23: -3 30 day period 2011 from May 34-June 23 +4.5 The poster specifically stated 'July 2009' in comparison to the recent weather July 2009: -5 Last 14 days: +2 where did I say temps. Yesterday we where 81 did it feel like a beach day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I wonder how many times one person can be wrong calling for big heat in the summer....? John you trying out this year? Then after you can make a severe weather forcast that you always do well on I've called for it twice..and both times I called for it, there were well above normal departures at several reporting stations for three days. I'm not going to go get the hard data and gloat about my calls--but I will respond to posts like this when I'm called out for making a bad forecast...that simply isn't true. I'll take my lumps when I am wrong and I will go out and post about why I was wrong as well. But the way you're going about calling me out is ignorant. As far as severe weather...both you and Joshua seem to have really poor reading skills...because in all of my severe weather posts I aim to remain objective and never state any absolutes. In fact, I almost always state what can go wrong. I never make a specific forecast on where, when, or what types of severe weather are going to occur. You guys just choose to take it that way...whenever I make a thread about severe weather potential, it seems to be taken as a forecast for severe weather throughout the entire area. Really just an awfully ignorant post...surprised that you'd go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 where did I say temps. Yesterday we where 81 did it feel like a beach day? It doesn't matter...famartin posted text data which deflates your cloud cover argument, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Whatever man...there's really no point in arguing anymore. There is no argument to begin with on the hard data with temps/cloud cover/etc..but when people stoop down to the level of taking direct shots at forecasts (which weren't even bad forecasts)...that's when I'm done having a constructive discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I've called for it twice..and both times I called for it, there were well above normal departures at several reporting stations for three days. I'm not going to go get the hard data and gloat about my calls--but I will respond to posts like this when I'm called out for making a bad forecast...that simply isn't true. I'll take my lumps when I am wrong and I will go out and post about why I was wrong as well. But the way you're going about calling me out is ignorant. As far as severe weather...both you and Joshua seem to have really poor reading skills...because in all of my severe weather posts I aim to remain objective and never state any absolutes. In fact, I almost always state what can go wrong. I never make a specific forecast on where, when, or what types of severe weather are going to occur. You guys just choose to take it that way. Really just an awfully ignorant post...surprised that you'd go there. so makin childish post in my direction the last two pages is any better? I certainly did not mean temps for comparison to 2009 as I thought I made it clear in my post to warlock. Never have I bump or made reference to a bad or awful post by you and continue to beat it into the ground. If I step over the line im sorry, but there was def not good intentions with each one of ur post the last two pages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 So how bout those Knicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 so makin childish post in my direction the last two pages is any better? I certainly did not mean temps for comparison to 2009 as I thought I made it clear in my post to warlock. Never have I bump or made reference to a bad or awful post by you and continue to beat it into the ground. If I step over the line im sorry, but there was def not good intentions with each one of ur post the last two pages I'm finished arguing, there were no childish posts made, there were no bad intentions, lets drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I've called for it twice..and both times I called for it, there were well above normal departures at several reporting stations for three days. I'm not going to go get the hard data and gloat about my calls--but I will respond to posts like this when I'm called out for making a bad forecast...that simply isn't true. I'll take my lumps when I am wrong and I will go out and post about why I was wrong as well. But the way you're going about calling me out is ignorant. As far as severe weather...both you and Joshua seem to have really poor reading skills...because in all of my severe weather posts I aim to remain objective and never state any absolutes. In fact, I almost always state what can go wrong. I never make a specific forecast on where, when, or what types of severe weather are going to occur. You guys just choose to take it that way...whenever I make a thread about severe weather potential, it seems to be taken as a forecast for severe weather throughout the entire area. Really just an awfully ignorant post...surprised that you'd go there. Allsnow seems to be a good guy most of the time but I thought that was rude.... bro, you should know better than that. John is one of the hardest working people on this site! We're lucky to have his analysis.... in all the threads he's ever made I've always seen him list both what can go right and what can go wrong, but some people tend to interpret it the way they want to rather than what's written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'm finished arguing, there were no childish posts made, there were no bad intentions, lets drop it. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Im will Allsnow, its not about temperatures, its about cloud cover, the bottom line is we have not had many really sunny days, you can come up with whatever percentages of cloud cover but if its over 25% then its too much. We have had days and days of clouds, even last weekend, way too many clouds at the beach, are people actually disputing this? When was our last true nice sunny day...sometime last week I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 So how bout those Knicks? they didnt draft me yet. im patiently waiting while im reading an argument about temps between John and Allsnow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 +2 so far for June around these parts, driven by warm nightime lows, but facts are facts, april may and now june have been all above normal at my locale (BDR). Last summer skewed things somewhat, and 2009 certainly did as well. Well night time lows dont fall under the "scorching summer" category, but this definitely hasn't been a cool summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Im will Allsnow, its not about temperatures, its about cloud cover, the bottom line is we have not had many really sunny days, you can come up with whatever percentages of cloud cover but if its over 25% then its too much. We have had days and days of clouds, even last weekend, way too many clouds at the beach, are people actually disputing this? When was our last true nice sunny day...sometime last week I guess We want Phoenix summers and Flagstaff winters around here. I know I do lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Thankyou....thats it in a nut-shell....its so easy to sit in elko or from a iphone in scotch plains and say it was not that bad today, yet those that work outside(not saying those two dont work) it has not been ideal or summer like conditions this week...except for monday. I believe last friday we had crappy weather with rain also...Thats what made my 09 remark not temps, but on and off shower and trying to get cuts in brought me back to this time.... Im glad you did not get rain on, wed we got hit in the morning then again in the afternoon. Today the lawns where high and swampy, with a low fog deck in the air for most of the day. Around 12 we cut through a shower....then the 2pm storm pretty much stop us. Sucks when you have a wedding to be at in Mass 2morrow evening.......hope we stay dry over night. sorry you got rained on, sometimes its the luck of the draw, surprisingly my area usually gets alot when others get missed so Im surprised it hasnt been too bad. Great point about people who arent outside working commenting on what the conditions are, this isnt looking at computer observations, its about being outside day after day after day. Its been pretty cloudy...and it was pretty cloudy for a long period earlier in the spring. Have we had a really nice weekend this beach season? Memorial Day weekend was the best we have had but even that had cloud issues. Can we get the brilliant sun on Sunday, Im concerned by the Partly Sunny forecast. While its not 2009 which was a totally crappy rainy mucky awful summer. The cloud issues are getting old and its starting to compare that way. Put it this way, its getting to late June and my tan is not evened out all the way yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 This spring has been fine. Great mix of hot and sun for outdoor activites and cool/rainy for indoor activities. Everyday isnt going to be a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 This spring has been fine. Great mix of hot and sun for outdoor activites and cool/rainy for indoor activities. Everyday isnt going to be a winner Whenever we get onto one of these cloudyish ultra humid periods with on and off chances of rain they feel like they last forever. Just please for the love of god give my low humidity. Even if it means 90 degrees I'll take that instead and I hate heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 strong support for the jetstream lifting north and allowing the heat expand eastward. we will probly see a monster heat wave at some point before july 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Whenever we get onto one of these cloudyish ultra humid periods with on and off chances of rain they feel like they last forever. Just please for the love of god give my low humidity. Even if it means 90 degrees I'll take that instead and I hate heat. fair enough I will take 90,92 degree days with full sun and low humidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 fair enough I will take 90,92 degree days with full sun and low humidity I'd take that in a heart beat if there was a decent breeze accompanying the heat. Dry conditions make for comfortable nights and tolerable days. Humidity is like a disease. It makes you feel like sh-t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 K i think you used hyperbole to get a rise out of people. it's been above normal the past 5 days, with today being the obvious exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 i think you used hyperbole to get a rise out of people. it's been above normal the past 5 days, with today being the obvious exception I dont care if its above normal but to me summer is not about mostly cloudy days which the last two week period has seen plenty of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 i think you used hyperbole to get a rise out of people. it's been above normal the past 5 days, with today being the obvious exception It was totally out of character of me to type what I did about john. I def jump the gun with a 09 remark. I appreciate you not really jumping all over me. I met you once and you def seem like a nice guy. John im sorry for what I said, and the past few months I have not been the poster I was in the winter. I let a petty little agument get the best of me. Once again guys im sorry and I need to take a step back from my posting style the last few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I dont care if its above normal but to me summer is not about mostly cloudy days which the last two week period has seen plenty of. its because the jetsream has been alittle farther south than normal so far this year.. occassional troughiness/shortwaves swinging thru ruining any period of hot/sunny weather we had. It was an ok spring, nothing too horrible. The signals look pretty good for July re: johns thread and my post about the euro/gfs 8-10 means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 fair enough I will take 90,92 degree days with full sun and low humidity I'd take that in a heart beat if there was a decent breeze accompanying the heat. Dry conditions make for comfortable nights and tolerable days. Humidity is like a disease. It makes you feel like sh-t. I agree with this-- let's get some nice dry heat with a nice breeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 It was totally out of character of me to type what I did about john. I def jump the gun with a 09 remark. I appreciate you not really jumping all over me. I met you once and you def seem like a nice guy. John im sorry for what I said, and the past few months I have not been the poster I was in the winter. I let a petty little agument get the best of me. Once again guys im sorry and I need to take a step back from my posting style the last few months. Well you seem like a decent person based on your track record, stress gets to everyone at times. One trick that works for me is I usually ask myself if I would like someone saying that to me before I post something that might be confrontational. It's a fine line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Sky cover wise, this June is not much different from July 2009. Both months featured a bit more than 60% cloud cover at EWR and most of the days of the month fell in the partly cloudy (35-74%) range. July '09 featured 2 clear days and 4 cloudy days... the rest partly cloudy. Precip wise, July '09 was a deluge with 6.60" of rain at EWR. This month has been much drier with only 2.66" of rain. Its no comparison. Temp wise, July '09 had a range of 58-91 degrees with an average high of 83.1, average low of 65.4 and average temp of 74.3. There was only 1 90-degree day. This month has had a range of 55-102 degrees with an average high of 83.6, average low of 64.5 and average temp of 74.1 There have been 4 90-degree days. Those numbers are relatively close... of course that was a July and this is a June. You shouldn't really compare them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Well here on our summer vacation in Chatham MA, it's 59 degrees and breezy. Feels like winter compared to dante's inferno, NJ. Rained all last night and all afternoon today, probably got 2" or more. Should break to sunshine (hopefully) tomorrow. The folks are blaming this crappy weather on me, as I should have known this when the trip was set up 2 months ago. Looks like I missed some action in this thread today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Lol. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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