gymengineer Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 So far, we already have quite a few grim notables to this 2011 tornado year: 1) Preliminary, the most tornadoes ever counted in one day on 4/27 at more than 180 (187? 188?). Of course this number isn't final. 2) The Joplin tornado was the single deadliest tornado since 1947, and is about to pass #7 on the list of all-time deadliest tornadoes 3) Deadliest year overall since 1936, with the updated count today surpassing the 1953 death toll of 519 4) Most individual tornadoes that caused 20+ deaths since 1920 at seven so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 This article has the pre-1950 tornado death tolls by year. The totals are based off of Grazulis' work: http://www.norman.noaa.gov/2009/03/us-annual-tornado-death-tolls-1875-present/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Is this also the second-highest number of F5s/EF5s (after 1974)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I posted this in the central forum - Indiana has set a state record for most tornadoes in one year, 54 so far which breaks the previous record of 49. Thankfully we haven't had the devastating violent wedges like other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 Is this also the second-highest number of F5s/EF5s (after 1974)? Well-- officially, no... 1953 officially had 5 F5's and 1968 had 4 F5's. But, Grazulis rated two of the 1953 tornadoes as F4 and one of the 1968 tornadoes as F4. So, there's disagreement about the historical ratings. If you go by Grazulis' ratings, which were backed up with evidence about house construction standards, then this year would be the second most F5's since the 1950 "modern era" start. However, the pre-1950's ratings are sketchy enough (it was difficult enough for Grazulis to figure out estimated death tolls from newspaper articles, let alone the fine distinction between an F4 and F5 based on those newspaper accounts) that I think it's really not possible to say how many F5's a season like 1942 or 1920 had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 The single day state record for confirmed tornadoes was set in NC on 4/16 with 30! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 So far, we already have quite a few grim notables to this 2011 tornado year: 1) Preliminary, the most tornadoes ever counted in one day on 4/27 at more than 180 (187? 188?). Of course this number isn't final. 2) The Joplin tornado was the single deadliest tornado since 1947, and is about to pass #7 on the list of all-time deadliest tornadoes 3) Deadliest year overall since 1936, with the updated count today surpassing the 1953 death toll of 519 4) Most individual tornadoes that caused 20+ deaths since 1920 at seven so far I was going to strike out number three since the Joplin official total is 134 instead of 139 or higher (so far... unfortunately, some of the hospitalized are still in grave condition). But, unbelievably, this stat might still hold after today's MA tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southmdwatcher Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 With the El Reno-Piedmont, Oklahoma tornado now surveyed we are up to (5) EF5 tornadoes for the year, and several high end EF4's that fell just short. STORM 2... BINGER-EL RENO-PIEDMONT-GUTHRIE PRELIMINARY DATA... EVENT DATE: MAY 24, 2011 EVENT TYPE: TORNADO EF RATING: EF-5 ESTIMATED PEAK WINDS (MPH): GREATER THAN 210 MPH INJURIES/FATALITIES: UNKNOWN/9 EVENT START LOCATION AND TIME: 8 WNW BINGER 3:30 PM CDT EVENT END LOCATION AND TIME: 4 NE GUTHRIE 5:35 PM CDT DAMAGE PATH LENGTH (IN MILES): 75 MILES DAMAGE WIDTH: UNKNOWN NOTE: RATING BASED ON UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA MOBILE DOPPLER RADAR MEASUREMENTS. http://www.weather.g...prodtype=public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 what a sickening year way too many populated areas got hit by violent tornadoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I was going to strike out number three since the Joplin official total is 134 instead of 139 or higher (so far... unfortunately, some of the hospitalized are still in grave condition). But, unbelievably, this stat might still hold after today's MA tornado. The death toll rose to 138 when four of the injured died. Also with the 4 deaths from the MA tornadoes, that would be over 139, and the stat stands...and we have half of the year still left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Thankfully we are past the peak of tornado season and historically very few violent tornadoes have occurred after June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 Thankfully we are past the peak of tornado season and historically very few violent tornadoes have occurred after June. ...well, definitely less, but hard to say "very few." Some of the biggest tornado stories of the years that I've been alive have occurred in the late fall or otherwise after June-- Windsor Locks '79, West Memphis '87, Raleight '88, Huntsville '89, Plainsfield '90, Springfield '91, Brandon '92, Petersburg '93, Oakfield '96, Tuscaloosa '00, College Park '01, Madison '01, Veterans Day Outbreak '02, Evansville '05, And out of those, only Windsor Locks and Springfield were not the single or at least tied for the single most noteworthy tornado of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Thankfully we are past the peak of tornado season and historically very few violent tornadoes have occurred after June. I hope you are right. But this has been such a hellish year for tornadoes and all. And all it takes is one ef2 or ef3 hitting a crowded campground or going through a large mobile home park. I just hope this does not happen, but it is just that this has just been such a bad and unlucky year it makes you wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 2nd most EF5s in a single year, after 1974 (6 or 7, depending on which source you use), and tied with 1953 (5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 And the Taunton NWS is thinking a definite EF-3 to possible EF 4 on the Springfield MA area tornado. Strong for the northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 On a sadder note, the Tuscaloosa-Birmingham, Hackleburg-Phil Campbell, and Joplin tornadoes were the first tornadoes since 1955 Udall tornado to kill more than 60 people. Only three other tornadoes have killed as many in the past 60 years, all in 1953 (Flint, Waco, and Worcester). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 BMX posted this up quite a while ago, but it's since been updated: http://www.srh.noaa....mo_2011torstats Noteworthy quotes: THERE WERE MORE F4/EF4 TORNADOES IN 2011 THAN THE PERIOD OF 2000-2010. THIS YEAR NOW HOLDS THE RECORD FOR MOST F4/EF4 AND F5/EF5 TORNADOES IN A SINGLE YEAR. [in AL] (2) THE NUMBER OF MONTHLY TORNADOES IN APRIL ALONE EXCEEDED THE PREVIOUS ANNUAL RECORD NUMBER OF TORNADOES IN ALABAMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Three days with >100 tornado reports, which is probably unprecedented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek30 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Three days with >100 tornado reports, which is probably unprecedented I've heard the above average GOM temps and the fading La Nina as reasons why this storm season has been so devastating. Would the spaced out nature of the season also have something to do with it? I've noticed that there have a been a few lulls between active periods. It was pretty quiet between the late April Alabama event and the May Joplin outbreak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 The ten tornadoes so far that caused 10 or more deaths ties 1965 for the most 10+ death tornadoes in modern records, supassing both 1974 and 1953. From before 1950, it looks like 1932 definitely exceeds ten with thirteen such tornadoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southmdwatcher Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Huntsville WFO has upgraded the Dekalb Alabama tornado to EF5 giving us 6 EF5's for the year, tying 1974. Ripped a safe from the ground threw it and tore off the safe door...wow. ...ADDITIONAL INFORMATION LEADS TO AN UPGRADE OF DEKALB COUNTY TORNADO FROM APRIL 27TH TO AN EF-5... AN ADDITIONAL GROUND SURVEY BASED ON NEW INFORMATION WAS CONDUCTED ON JUNE 15TH ALONG A NARROW CORRIDOR OF DEKALB COUNTY EAST AND NORTHEAST OF DOWNTOWN RAINSVILLE. THIS STORM SURVEY WAS UTILIZED ALONG WITH AERIAL IMAGERY FROM A NOAA OVERFLIGHT ON MAY 4TH, INTERVIEWS WITH RESIDENCES IN THE AREA, AND ADDITIONAL PRE-EVENT IMAGERY TO UPDATE THE PREVIOUS RATING FOR THE LONG TRACK TORNADO THAT IMPACTED DEKALB COUNTY ON APRIL 27TH. FINDINGS INCLUDING THE UPDATED SURVEY INFORMATION ARE AS FOLLOWS: * EVENT TYPE: TORNADO * EVENT DATE: 04/27/11 * EVENT TIME: 6:19 PM TO 6:56 PM * ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: >200.0 MPH * PRELIMINARY RATING: EF-5 * PATH LENGTH: 33.8 MILES * MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH: 0.75 MILES * BEGINNING POINT: 34.90708 / -85.978378 * MID POINT:34.507738/ -85.790106 * ENDING POINT: 34.733306 / -85.557820 * PRELIMINARY SURVEY INFORMATION (COPIED FOR INITIAL STATEMENT): THE TORNADO PATH IS LIKELY TO HAVE BEGUN IN THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY NORTHEAST OF GERALDINE BEFORE TRACKING NORTHEASTWARD, GENERALLY PARALLEL TO AND JUST EAST OF STATE ROUTE 75. ALONG THIS LINE, THE TORNADO PASSED THROUGH FYFFE, RAINSVILLE, SYLVANIA, AND EVENTUALLY INTO NORTHERN DEKALB COUNTY SOUTH OF THE CARTERSVILLE COMMUNITY. ON THE FIRST DAY OF SURVEYS, THE SURVEY TEAM NOTICED INTIAL DAMAGE IN THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY WHERE THE PATH WIDTH WAS GENERALLY AROUND 50 YARDS. THIS INITIAL DAMAGE INCLUDED MOSTLY FELLED AND SNAPPED TREES AND STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO SMALL BUILDINGS. EXTENSIVE DAMAGE WAS NOTED ESPECIALLY IN THE RAINSVILE AND SYLVANIA COMMUNITIES WHERE THE PATH WIDTH WAS ESTIMATED TO OVER 1/2 MILE WIDE. DAMAGE IN RAINSVILLE INCLUDED HOUSES THAT WERE COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM FOUNDATIONS, WITH DEBRIS SCATTERED FOR ABOUT ONE MILE. NEAR THIS LOCATION, TREES WERE DEBARKED AND A FEW MOBILE HOMES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED, WITH DEBRIS STREWN FOR ABOUT A MILE DOWNSTREAM. IN THE SYLVANIA COMMUNITY, A SIMILAR SITUATION OCCURRED WITH HOUSES COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM FOUNDATIONS AND DEBRIS BLOWN FAR DOWNSTREAM. SOME OF THESE HOUSES WERE CONNECTED TO THEIR FOUNDATIONS WITH ANCHOR BOLTS AND FOUNDATION STRAPS, INDICATING A STRONGER CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOMES. ON THE SECOND DAY OF SURVEYS, INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED FROM DEKALB COUNTY EMA, WHO CONDUCTED SEVERAL AREAL SURVEYS AND DETERMINED THAT THE TORNADO DAMAGE PATCH WAS INDEED CONTINUOUS FROM THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY THROUGH RAINSVILLE, SYLVANIA, AND THEN TO SOUTH OF THE CARTERSVILLE AREA IN NORTHEASTERN DEKALB COUNTY. FURTHER DAMAGE WAS OBSERVED TO THE NORTH OF CARTERSVILLE AND INTO NORTHWEST GEORGIA, BUT THIS WAS LATER DETERMINED TO BE ANOTHER TORNADO TRACK FROM EARLIER IN THE DAY. GROUND SURVEYS WERE CONDUCTED FROM THE BLAKE COMMUNITY INTO SOUTHEAST SYLVANIA, THEN THROUGH HENAGAR, IDER, AND TO THE CARTERSVILLE AREA. THE TORNADO DAMAGE CONTINUED ALONG THE PATH FROM THE BLAKE COMMUNITY, INTERSECTING COUNTY ROAD 27 AND CONTINUING TO THE NORTHEAST, RUNNING PARELLEL BETWEEN HWY 75 AND INTERSTATE 59 THROUGH HENAGAR, IDER AND THEN TO SOUTH OF CARTERSVILLE. IN THE BLAKE COMMUNITY, THE TORNADO DAMAGE WIDTH WAS ESTIMATED TO BE ONE HALF TO AS MUCH AS THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILE WIDE. ALONG COUNTY ROAD 27 JUST SOUTHEAST OF THE SYLVANIA COMMUNITY, SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE WAS OBSERVED. ALL EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR WALLS OF SEVERAL HOMES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED WITH PARTIAL BLOCK AND MORTAR FOUNDATIONS REMAINING. IN ONE INSTANCE, A CONCRETE SLAB THAT SERVED AS A PORCH WAS DISPLACED A FEW FEET AND BROKEN IN HALF. SOME HARDWOOD TREES IN THE AREA WERE STRIPPED WITH NO STUBS OF ANY BRANCHES REMAINING AND WERE PARTIALLY DEBARKED. THE MOUNTAIN VIEW BAPTIST CHURCH, WHICH WAS JUST INSIDE THE SYLVANIA COMMUNITY ALSO SUSTAINED SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. AN OLD, ONE- STORY PORTION OF THE CHURCH DATING TO 1902 AND CONSTRUCTED OF A BRICK AND MORTAR EXTERIOR ON WOOD FRAME WALLS WAS COMPLETELY DESTROYED. A RECENT TWO-STORY ADDITION TO THE CHURCH CONSTRUCTED IN 2004 AND CONSISTING OF SIMILAR BUILDING MATERIALS WAS PARTIALLY DESTROYED, WITH MOST EXTERIOR WALLS AND NEARLY ALL INTERIOR WALLS FALLEN. A CONCRETE BLOCK AND MORTAR FOUNDATION WAS ALL THAT REMAINED OF A HALLWAY ADJOINING THE TWO BUILDINGS. * UPDATED SURVEY INFORMATION GATHERED ON JUNE 15TH: FOR THE PURPOSES OF FURTHER STUDY, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON A NARROW CORRIDOR OF INTENSE DAMAGE EXTENDING FROM SKAGGS ROAD TO LINGERFELDT ROAD (ALSO KNOWN AS COUNTY ROAD 180) EXTENDING TOWARD COUNTY ROAD 514. ALONG SKAGGS ROAD, A STONE HOUSE WAS COMPLETELY OBLITERATED WITH MUCH OF THE INTERIOR DEBRIS STREWN WELL AWAY FROM THE STRUCTURE. A SUPPORTING LARGE CEMENT AND STONE PILLAR WAS RIPPED COMPLETELY OUT OF THE GROUND. ANOTHER HOME ALONG SKAGGS ROAD WAS ALSO LEVELED COMPLETELY TO THE GROUND. THE NOAA OVERFLIGHT SHOWED SIGNIFICANT GROUND SCARRING IN THIS AREA AND A WALK THROUGH THE NEARBY FIELDS SHOWED LARGE POT MARKS AND OTHER SECTIONS OF DISTURBED GROUND. SLIGHTLY NORTHEAST ALONG LINGERFELDT ROAD, NUMEROUS HOMES WERE LEVELED COMPLETELY TO THEIR FOUNDATION WITH VEHICLES AND DEBRIS STREWN FOR HUNDREDS OF FEET. OVERHEAD PHOTOS AND FOLLOW-UP VISUAL CONFIRMATION REVEALED A MANGLED VEHICLE TOSSED WELL INTO A RAVINE AND RESTING UP IN THE REMAINDER OF TREES. AT 1608 LINGERFELDT ROAD/CR 180 A LARGE TWO STORY BRICK HOME WAS COMPLETELY OBLITERATED WITH SEVERAL OF THE SUPPORTING ANCHORS RIPPED OUT OF THE GROUND. A CONCRETE PORCH WAS RIPPED OFF WITH PIECES STREWN UP TO 150 YARDS. A SECTION OF THE ASPHALT DRIVEWAY WAS PULLED UP. IN ADDITION, AN ANCHORED LIBERTY SAFE WEIGHING 800 POUNDS WAS PULLED OFF ITS ANCHORAGE AND THROWN INTO A WOODED AREA 600 FEET AWAY. WHEN FOUND, THE SAFE`S DOOR HAD BEEN RIPPED OPEN AND COMPLETELY OFF. A LARGE PICK-UP TRUCK AT THIS RESIDENCE WAS FOUND MANGLED IN PIECES OVER 250 YARDS AWAY IN THE SAME WOODED AREA. THE RESIDENTS OF THE HOME SURVIVED IN A NEARBY STORM PIT. OF NOTE THE STORM PIT WAS PARTIALLY EXPOSED BY THE TORNADO WITH DIRT BEING SUCKED UP AND PULLED AWAY AROUND THE OPENING. NEXT DOOR A MOBILE HOME WAS COMPLETELY DISINTEGRATED. THE RESIDENTS OF THE MOBILE THERE ALSO SURVIVED IN A STORM PIT. THIS SECTION OF DAMAGE FROM SKAGGS ROAD TO LINGERFELT ROAD NEAR THE INTERSECTION WITH CROW LANE WAS DEEMED TO BE EF-5 IN INTENSITY. IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT SEVERE DAMAGE, NEAR EF-5 IN INTENSITY WAS NOTED IN A CORRIDOR FROM CR 515 THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG COUNTY ROAD 441. IN THE EAST AND SOUTH ENDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MANY ONE AND TWO STORY HOMES WERE LEVELED TO THEIR FOUNDATION WITH DEBRIS SCATTERED SOME DISTANCE. SEVERAL CARS WERE THROWN A LARGE DISTANCE IN THIS AREA. THERE WAS EVIDENCE OF GROUND SCARRING AS WELL AS SOME SIDEWALK PAVEMENT PULLED UP IN THIS LOCATION. HOWEVER, SOME OF THE HOMES IN THIS AREA APPEARED TO BE PUSHED OFF THEIR FOUNDATION INITIALLY WITH LIMITED ANCHORAGE. THUS, THE DAMAGE WAS DEEMED HIGH END EF-4 IN THIS AREA. http://www.weather.gov/view/prodsByState.php?state=AL&prodtype=public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 With the additional deaths from the injured in hospitals after the Joplin tornado, this year is now the 4th deadliest year and deadliest ever in "official" records (since 1950), surpassing 1896 and 1927. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 With the additional deaths from the injured in hospitals after the Joplin tornado, this year is now the 4th deadliest year and deadliest ever in "official" records (since 1950), surpassing 1896 and 1927. Wanna be careful with that since some of the Joplin deaths (e.g. today's, which was due to complications from surgeries interrupted by the tornado, fungus infections, and "psychological stress" in at least one instance) are indirect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Wanna be careful with that since some of the Joplin deaths (e.g. today's, which was due to complications from surgeries interrupted by the tornado, fungus infections, and "psychological stress" in at least one instance) are indirect. Yeah but they are still being counted in the official tally. Anyone know if they counted indirect deaths in previous years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack123 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Yeah but they are still being counted in the official tally. Anyone know if they counted indirect deaths in previous years? Indirect deaths would be like if there was a tornado and someone died of a heart attack or something else that had nothing to do with the tornado itself. If someone died from debris caused by the tornado then officially it is counted as a tornado death. It is highly possible this year could end up being the second deadliest on record. I think there has been 548 tornado related deaths this year. 1917 had 551 and 1936 had 552. It is hard to say because I think that other races except for caucasian, may have not been counted in the death toll during that time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I couldn't believe what I was watching on April 27th. I thought Yazoo City was bad, but then the atmosphere just goes "Hey, how about 15-20 Yazoo City's all on the same day, along with scores more?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Huntsville WFO has upgraded the Dekalb Alabama tornado to EF5 giving us 6 EF5's for the year, tying 1974. Ripped a safe from the ground threw it and tore off the safe door...wow. Yeah, seriously. The fact that the safe weighed 800 lbs and was thrown 600 ft is also kind of insane. That actually impresses me more than cars being thrown, as cars are relatively light for their size, whereas a safe is small and very heavy. It's hard to imagine. This aside... How amazing to have six EF5s in one year. I remember when the new EF scale was instituted, some folks doubted we'd ever see an EF5. I remember some folks felt the requirements were too strict-- and we were in that big F5/EF5 "drought" between Moore (1999) and Greensburg (2007). P.S. I was just looking at the SPC records, and according to them, there were seven F5s in 1974: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/f5torns.html. Is one one these not valid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerWXman Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I couldn't believe what I was watching on April 27th. I thought Yazoo City was bad, but then the atmosphere just goes "Hey, how about 15-20 Yazoo City's all on the same day, along with scores more?" I don't think I'll ever forget the radar loop I was looking at that afternoon as it was going on... I was just in awe at the sheer amount of classic, textbook, hooked out supercells going on at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcalvert Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Yeah, seriously. The fact that the safe weighed 800 lbs and was thrown 600 ft is also kind of insane. That actually impresses me more than cars being thrown, as cars are relatively light for their size, whereas a safe is small and very heavy. It's hard to imagine. This aside... How amazing to have six EF5s in one year. I remember when the new EF scale was instituted, some folks doubted we'd ever see an EF5. I remember some folks felt the requirements were too strict-- and we were in that big F5/EF5 "drought" between Moore (1999) and Greensburg (2007). P.S. I was just looking at the SPC records, and according to them, there were seven F5s in 1974: http://www.spc.noaa....do/f5torns.html. Is one one these not valid? The second Tanner, AL tornado of 4/3/74 is recognized as an F5 in some places and an F4 in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Yeah, seriously. The fact that the safe weighed 800 lbs and was thrown 600 ft is also kind of insane. That actually impresses me more than cars being thrown, as cars are relatively light for their size, whereas a safe is small and very heavy. It's hard to imagine. This aside... How amazing to have six EF5s in one year. I remember when the new EF scale was instituted, some folks doubted we'd ever see an EF5. I remember some folks felt the requirements were too strict-- and we were in that big F5/EF5 "drought" between Moore (1999) and Greensburg (2007). P.S. I was just looking at the SPC records, and according to them, there were seven F5s in 1974: http://www.spc.noaa....do/f5torns.html. Is one one these not valid? So here is a question. If we know Hackleburg and Smithville were on the ground at the same time, how close was Rainsville to being on the ground at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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