AlexP Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 As a side note, I wonder if NHC will consider making changes to the Saffir-Simpson scale. ABC7 in NY reported that the storm made landfall at Coney Island as a tropical storm with peak winds of 65mph. So from a historic standpoint it won't even go on record as a hurricane that made landfall in NYC, but it appears to be at least as impactful, if not more so, than previous hurricanes which passed near the city. It certainly appears to have done more wind damage in our area than you might typically excpect from a Cat 1 passing off the Jersey shore. The mets on WABC were saying that central pressure is more important than where the storm falls on the scale, and in this particular case the central pressure was equivalent to a Cat 2 hurricane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Look at MDT reported wind speeds and gusts since 2 am. Lots of gusts over 40 in there with a max of 46 around 8 am I think. Still no power here, or anywhere within the streets around me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 We must have just lost power for a time, because I drifted off to sleep and woke up to see my clock radio flashing 12:09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jen2swt Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Harrisburg man dies last night after sleeping in a tent when a tree fell on him. The woman he was with was injured...Come on peeps..seriously? Just reported on WGAL.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 In the daylight, I see my apple tree has been ravaged. Winds far exceeded anything the local mets predicted. 35mph constant wind for 9 hours can mess trees up, as evidence of my apple trees, the trees I see blocking 3rd St completely. We lost power a few times buy never more than 5 minutes, I thinknwe're about thr only people in Dauphin County with power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Harrisburg man dies last night after sleeping in a tent when a tree fell on him. The woman he was with was injured...Come on peeps..seriously? Just reported on WGAL.. WTF? Was he homeless? They had 7 shelters opened ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 PPL has about 190,000 homes without power in PA. Cumberland, Dauphin, and Lancaster counties make up about 100,00. Lancaster County is just insane with 41,000 still without power, not including the 15,000 that were just resolved recently Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jen2swt Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 WTF? Was he homeless? They had 7 shelters opened ... They didn't say he was homeless, just him and a woman and she got out with injuries while he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 South Wilkes-Barre near Solomon's Creek being evac'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Never experienced a wind event here where the wind was so unrelenting. Each band after midnight kept pushing the wind higher and higher Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jen2swt Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 They didn't say he was homeless, just him and a woman and she got out with injuries while he died. Said they were camping outside for a fundraiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 PPL has about 190,000 homes without power in PA. Cumberland, Dauphin, and Lancaster counties make up about 100,00. Lancaster County is just insane with 41,000 still without power, not including the 15,000 that were just resolved recently Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk Even crazier: Dauphin has 32k without power and that DOESNT include Harrisburg itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Picked up 4.04" of rain here in Eastern York county. The yard has branches everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Without power since roughly 9. Winds are horrible and the trees keeping breaking. Was able to mske it to perkains, who have power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexP Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Just drove through Camp Hill. It's a mess. Big tree down on the bypass just past 21st St. A lot of businesses without power and traffic lights out. Multiple trees down in the old neighborhoods in the borough. I didn't see many problems in HBG itself. Some branches down. Downtown had your typical light Sunday traffic. Roxy's was packed with diners who said they went there because they had no power at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 3.52" total at KAVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This guy was a special kind of stupid. http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/08/harrisburg_man_killed_in_hurri.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This guy was a special kind of stupid. http://www.pennlive....d_in_hurri.html Based on some of the stuff I am seeing online, this must not be true because the forecasters messed this up and no one got anything bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexP Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Based on some of the stuff I am seeing online, this must not be true because the forecasters messed this up and no one got anything bad. It seems to me that people will always complain about the forecast being wrong even when it's right. Irene took almost the exact track that has been discussed since early last week. The intensity was less than forecast, but judging by the damage, it was still pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Trying to get out and about....must have had some wicked gusts through the one elevated farm.....two poles snapped in two 3ft off the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Without power since roughly 9. Winds are horrible and the trees keeping breaking. Was able to mske it to perkains, who have power. And to think you were considering heading east to catch the storm a couple days ago and Irene ended up just bringing the insanity to you and a good part of the Sus Valley. I figured it'd be windy especially with the storm managing to stay a little bit further west but with what I'm reading from you guys this morning it has really kicked some butt windwise. It's something that has apparently translated up from VA and DC where some of the highest winds came pretty late in the storm even after most of the rain had ended. Whenever it's safe to do so you guys should take some pics to share on the thread. As a side note, I wonder if NHC will consider making changes to the Saffir-Simpson scale. ABC7 in NY reported that the storm made landfall at Coney Island as a tropical storm with peak winds of 65mph. So from a historic standpoint it won't even go on record as a hurricane that made landfall in NYC, but it appears to be at least as impactful, if not more so, than previous hurricanes which passed near the city. It certainly appears to have done more wind damage in our area than you might typically excpect from a Cat 1 passing off the Jersey shore. The mets on WABC were saying that central pressure is more important than where the storm falls on the scale, and in this particular case the central pressure was equivalent to a Cat 2 hurricane. They downgraded the storm just prior to landfall this morning when they couldn't find any winds supportive of maintaining minimal hurricane status. The region that had been containing such winds was actually well to the east of the center off the southern New England coastline. It's a tough situation with a storm like this, with the very deep pressure but winds that aren't what they traditionally would be (See Hurricane Ike). One of the reasons was Irene had issues effectively translating winds down to the surface throughout a good part of it's duration north of the islands as it never seemed to really establish a tight inner core. So instead we had a very large strong wind field that had decent winds, but def not the winds there could have been. But with how large of an area the major impacts spanned and the region this occurred in, it can be about as bad or even worse than a more localized compact storm with winds that "match" the pressure....Unless of course the more localized compact storm was right on target hitting a susceptible area. So I guess what i'm saying is I do think that the way we rate these hurricanes should get looked at.. but any changes would need to be such that the public and media can easily interpret them. And getting the people to understand can sometimes be harder than making the forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 What's interesting to me is this was a T'S that hit us. My brother stayed through Ike south of Houston on the gulf - I can't imagine the hell he went through overnight. He always said it was beyond intense, I can't fathom it for so long of a duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 what is this storm you guys are talking about? lol. nothing here but clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 What's interesting to me is this was a T'S that hit us. My brother stayed through Ike south of Houston on the gulf - I can't imagine the hell he went through overnight. He always said it was beyond intense, I can't fathom it for so long of a duration. The span of Ike's damaging winds from there all the way across the midwest into western PA etc was something else as well. That storm was a beast. For PA, this is the event I wish my local area had more info about. After what some of you guys went through overnight, could you imagine this? From landfall to Central PA in 12 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 The span of Ike's damaging winds from there all the way across the midwest into western PA etc was something else as well. That storm was a beast. For PA, this is the event I wish my local area had more info about. After what some of you guys went through overnight, could you imagine this? From landfall to Central PA in 12 hours. My dad talked about Hazel until he died. He was a cop in Windsor, PA, a small town se of York. There are no official reports in York County but surrounding areas had 100 mpg gusts, and my father believed it. Told me never experienced anything like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 what is this storm you guys are talking about? lol. nothing here but clouds. Pretty much as forecasted there but we got more rain than I expected here, .72. Some of that was from a 10 minute torrential downpour yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jen2swt Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Now question is,do we dry out somewhat until the next storm...possibly labor day week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Good News is PPL has restored power to 105,000 homes. Bad news is 235,000 still have no power including me. Also saw a bunch of trees in a small couple block area that were snapped at about 6 or 7 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 The sun is finally out now. Time to start cleaning up this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Lots of wind damage, a tree actually came down not too far from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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