Deck Pic Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Why?...It's almost June...is it that hard to average 30 numbers? I hope they don't smooth the norms again, but I have a feeling they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Because the full station list hasn't been released nationally yet... (it got delayed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 Because the full station list hasn't been released nationally yet... (it got delayed) I hope they don't use smoothed norms.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I hope they don't use smoothed norms.... that's not standard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 that's not standard? nope I know Boston doesn't use the,m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 nope I know Boston doesn't use the,m It makes a big difference in the winter....not as much in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Why?...It's almost June...is it that hard to average 30 numbers? I hope they don't smooth the norms again, but I have a feeling they will Release of the basic set of normals is due in October and the extended normals set is due April 2012. In a couple weeks we'll have a better idea where they are on the new normals as NCDC is set to provide an update. The last set wasn't finalized until 2002 if I recall correctly, so it seems like we're on a similar schedule. From what I understand, the spline interpolation method is not being used for this set, but instead will use a moving average centered on each day of the year. As far as smoothing, it's hard to say what degree it has been used because they haven't made the input data sets public (they aren't necessarily the same as the climate data publicly available). There's a chance that they will release that data set this time around to provide a little more transparency into the process. The reason it takes this long is they go through the generated normals and do comparisons to see if there are any errors or big changes from the last set. A bit of quality control is done which adds a bit of time. Not to mention climate data takes about three months or so to be certified as official, so you figure they didn't even have the full 30 years of data until March or April at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormitecture Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Their 'smoothing' the numbers to cover up for Global Warming (or lack there of...take your pick). Conspiracies take time to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share Posted May 28, 2011 Release of the basic set of normals is due in October and the extended normals set is due April 2012. In a couple weeks we'll have a better idea where they are on the new normals as NCDC is set to provide an update. The last set wasn't finalized until 2002 if I recall correctly, so it seems like we're on a similar schedule. From what I understand, the spline interpolation method is not being used for this set, but instead will use a moving average centered on each day of the year. As far as smoothing, it's hard to say what degree it has been used because they haven't made the input data sets public (they aren't necessarily the same as the climate data publicly available). There's a chance that they will release that data set this time around to provide a little more transparency into the process. The reason it takes this long is they go through the generated normals and do comparisons to see if there are any errors or big changes from the last set. A bit of quality control is done which adds a bit of time. Not to mention climate data takes about three months or so to be certified as official, so you figure they didn't even have the full 30 years of data until March or April at the earliest. Thanks....makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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