Stevo6899 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Maybe not page after page this time but I deleted way more than a few. You hardly ever see any complaining from posters in other areas farther south/west when they get split or missed by severe storms. Why is that? I hear ya. Perhaps storms don't split as much or as often down there or maybe they get a lot more severe events than we do. Asking the wrong person. Everybody is different and has a different level of knowledge for weather. I don't think that's respected enough on here. Anyways, not a bad storm. Most impressive part was the loud thunder claps that caused a dish that was on the counter to fall into the sink. Curious to see if anyone got video on possible funnels further to the west. Assuming they were rain wrapped and that may be tough to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathergy Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I hear ya. Perhaps storms don't split as much or as often down there or maybe they get a lot more severe events than we do. Asking the wrong person. Everybody is different and has a different level of knowledge for weather. I don't think that's respected enough on here. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Hearing reports of serious wind damage out of K-zoo. Really digging the radar images of the last 1 hour or so. Classic MCS return with a well defined comma shape. Screen shots may just be worthy for an Avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Anyways here are a few pictures from m59-Van Dyke and Schoenheer 20 mile right by Best Buy! First picture is a Funnel Wana be..NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 The cells in north-central KS are firing in a very volatile environment. Surface cape over 4500j/kg, effective SRH at over 500m2/s2! The LCLs are pretty high in that area, otherwise I'd be seriously concerned about tornado potential there. Could still produce some monster hail if the storms continue to evolve. If we can get storms to fire a bit further northeast into southeast Nebraska where LCLs are lower, and deep layer shear/cape is even higher, then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I hear ya. Perhaps storms don't split as much or as often down there or maybe they get a lot more severe events than we do. I think part of the problem is that people don't realize how rare of an event severe weather is in the first place. Just because you are outlooked, in a watch or in a warning doesn't mean you will experience severe weather. It is a given that part of every watch or warning will bust. The polygon system has dramatically reduced that area, but it is still not possible to pinpoint the hazards. In some cases we're talking a few hailstones or one wind gust. The mentality of "it never happens to me" exists everywhere. It's the reason terms like the Norman bubble are around. Sure, some of it depends on location. But if severe weather is so important to see there are methods to experience it (tours being the safest, I'm not about to advocate chasing without extensive knowledge of storm structure and evolution). I, for one, consider myself lucky that despite living in coastal Maine and knowing I may never see a severe thunderstorm while I'm living here, I can still enjoy a monster supercell 100 miles away in rural Somerset County, Maine or 1000 miles away in Mitchell County, Kansas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Hopefully this is the last of storms around SEMI for a while...I need to catch up on my projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI 658 PM EDT SUN MAY 29 2011 .TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON .DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE. ..REMARKS.. 0502 PM TSTM WND DMG 4 NNW EATON RAPIDS 42.56N 84.68W 05/29/2011 EATON MI STORM CHASER ONE HOME COMPLETELY DESTROYED. 3 OTHER HOMES DAMAGED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I think part of the problem is that people don't realize how rare of an event severe weather is in the first place. Just because you are outlooked, in a watch or in a warning doesn't mean you will experience severe weather. It is a given that part of every watch or warning will bust. The polygon system has dramatically reduced that area, but it is still not possible to pinpoint the hazards. In some cases we're talking a few hailstones or one wind gust. The mentality of "it never happens to me" exists everywhere. It's the reason terms like the Norman bubble are around. Sure, some of it depends on location. But if severe weather is so important to see there are methods to experience it (tours being the safest, I'm not about to advocate chasing without extensive knowledge of storm structure and evolution). I, for one, consider myself lucky that despite living in coastal Maine and knowing I may never see a severe thunderstorm while I'm living here, I can still enjoy a monster supercell 100 miles away in rural Somerset County, Maine or 1000 miles away in Mitchell County, Kansas. This. Folks need to realize that following every single weather event and every storm that happens to pop within 100 miles of their location will result in the inevitable "it never happens here" syndrome even though climo suggests otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Hopefully this is the last of storms around SEMI for a while...I need to catch up on my projects. Tuesday-Wed looks to have decent storm/severe potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Tuesday-Wed looks to have decent storm/severe potential. I know your in construction so you understand... Enough is enough all ready Im 3-4 weeks behind. That only means 80+ hr work weeks when it gets dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 This. Folks need to realize that following every single weather event and every storm that happens to pop within 100 miles of their location will result in the inevitable "it never happens here" syndrome even though climo suggests otherwise. I think most michigan posters understand all of what is being said, but I can see how some michigan posters can get frustrated and unfortunately they vent on here thinking others care. I am not a huge fan of severe weather nor do I care what occurs here. I think simply ignoring them is better than posting, instigating, riling people up, derailing the thread even more, and stating that all michigan posters are complaining. Moderators are there for a reason. Unfortunately they are needed sometimes. Unfortunately, powerball was right all along and was johnny on the spot with the new thread hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I know your in construction so you understand... Enough is enough all ready Im 3-4 weeks behind. That only means 80+ hr work weeks when it gets dry. The grass is about as good as it will look the rest of the summer. Don't know how you work 80+ hours in the heat thats coming up the next few days. Even though not much rain is forecasted, unfortunately a pop up severe storm isn't out of the question with the high humidity and heat. Atleast in the winter you can put on clothes. In the summer you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 New cells starting to fire southwest of Omaha. Absolutely obscene 3km EHI values of 17-19 in that area. Effective tornado parameter up near 10. LCLs are much lower there compared to down in KS, so that's an area we need to watch for development very closely I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 271 NWUS53 KDTX 292342 LSRDTX PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 741 PM EDT SUN MAY 29 2011 .TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON .DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE. ..REMARKS.. 0614 PM TSTM WND DMG 1 NNW LAPEER 43.06N 83.33W 05/29/2011 LAPEER MI 911 CALL CENTER HOUSE MOVED OFF FOUNDATION AND APARTMENT DAMAGE AT BROOKSHIRE APARTMENTS. MOSTEIKO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 New cells starting to fire southwest of Omaha. Absolutely obscene 3km EHI values of 17-19 in that area. Effective tornado parameter up near 10. LCLs are much lower there compared to down in KS, so that's an area we need to watch for development very closely I think. was just looking at the LCL heights compared to whats going on in KS as well. BTW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 holy smokes....I know it doesn't go with today's severe wx but looping the CAPE values on the 18z GFS....northern IL is AOA 3000 j/kg 9 out of the next 10 days with us not getting that much juice this coming weds, I don't think I've ever seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Well the storms may have been a bust but at least I got a pseudo-tornado warning issued by Yours Truly, Ontario Government! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 was just looking at the LCL heights compared to whats going on in KS as well. BTW... Insane numbers right there. That cell in southeast Nebraska is alive and kicking, but it's still really struggling against the inhibition. There's some stronger H5 winds down in KS heading that way, but don't know if it will make it before the evening inversion begins to set in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Insane numbers right there. That cell in southeast Nebraska is alive and kicking, but it's still really struggling against the inhibition. There's some stronger H5 winds down in KS heading that way, but don't know if it will make it before the evening inversion begins to set in. its def trying for sure, tops now up to 54kft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 398 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 715 PM CDT SUN MAY 29 2011 THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF PARTS OF SOUTHWEST IOWA SMALL PART OF NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS SOUTHEAST NEBRASKA EFFECTIVE THIS SUNDAY EVENING FROM 715 PM UNTIL 1100 PM CDT. TORNADOES...HAIL TO 3 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 75 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS. THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 50 STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 20 MILES WEST SOUTHWEST OF CONCORDIA KANSAS TO 25 MILES NORTH NORTHEAST OF OMAHA NEBRASKA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU8). REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 396...WW 397... DISCUSSION...EXTREME INSTABILITY COUPLED WITH STRONGLY VEERING SHEAR PROFILES ALONG WARM FRONT SUPPORT POTENTIAL FOR TORNADIC SUPERCELLS. CINH AND WARM AIR ALOFT HAVE BEEN THE CONCERN...HOWEVER STORMS CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG BOUNDARY INDICATING CINH HAS WEAKENED. WHILE FOCUSED...RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF SUPERCELLS IS BECOMING MORE LIKELY ALONG WITH THREAT OF VERY LARGE HAIL AND TORNADOES. AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 3 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 65 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 600. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 24035. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 My chase partner has a good view of the Lincoln, NE supercell. Very nice updraft currently present. Watch his live video at www.TexasStormChasers.com/live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Looks pretty impressive on 1km visible. This was a short while ago when the tops were near 50k ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 CINH 1, Lincoln supercell 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 CINH 1, Lincoln supercell 0. Some pretty LP structure as it went quietly into the evening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 i was on that storm for a short time. It looked good for a short time, then fell apart. Got heavy rains, and very small (pea size max) just west of lincoln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 These cells are having a very tough time sustaining themselves...the CAP looks to be winning somewhat, as previous warned cells are weakening. Not too surprising with 700mb temps of 13-15C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.B. LaForce Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Wow, Finally made it back to my house after zig zagging all over. MANY trees down in the area, roads blocked all over. No power here. We lost half a tree in our front yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outflow Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 dtx didn't waste anytime getting out doing surveys 0525 PM TORNADO 3 SSW PERRY 42.78N 84.26W 05/29/2011 SHIAWASSEE MI NWS STORM SURVEY A STORM SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE NWS FOUND EF1 TORNADO DAMAGE IN SHIAWASSEE COUNTY. A TORNADO ENTERED THE COUNTY NEAR LOVEJOY AND LOCKE ROADS AND TRACKED NORTHEAST FOR 2.5 MILES...ENDING AT BEARD AND RUPPERT ROADS. THE DAMAGE PATH WAS 100 YARDS WIDE. SOFT AND HARD WOOD TREES WERE UPROOTED AND SNAPPED DUE TO WINDS ESTIMATED AT 90-95 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 nam looks good/very good still for e dakotas tomorrow -- brief window at least for something big tornado wise up there http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/nam/00/images/nam_500_018m.gif http://www.nco.ncep....am_500_024m.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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