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Maybe not page after page this time but I deleted way more than a few. You hardly ever see any complaining from posters in other areas farther south/west when they get split or missed by severe storms. Why is that?

I hear ya. Perhaps storms don't split as much or as often down there or maybe they get a lot more severe events than we do. Asking the wrong person. Everybody is different and has a different level of knowledge for weather. I don't think that's respected enough on here. Anyways, not a bad storm. Most impressive part was the loud thunder claps that caused a dish that was on the counter to fall into the sink. Curious to see if anyone got video on possible funnels further to the west. Assuming they were rain wrapped and that may be tough to find.

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I hear ya. Perhaps storms don't split as much or as often down there or maybe they get a lot more severe events than we do. Asking the wrong person. Everybody is different and has a different level of knowledge for weather. I don't think that's respected enough on here.

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The cells in north-central KS are firing in a very volatile environment. Surface cape over 4500j/kg, effective SRH at over 500m2/s2! The LCLs are pretty high in that area, otherwise I'd be seriously concerned about tornado potential there. Could still produce some monster hail if the storms continue to evolve. If we can get storms to fire a bit further northeast into southeast Nebraska where LCLs are lower, and deep layer shear/cape is even higher, then.....

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I hear ya. Perhaps storms don't split as much or as often down there or maybe they get a lot more severe events than we do.

I think part of the problem is that people don't realize how rare of an event severe weather is in the first place. Just because you are outlooked, in a watch or in a warning doesn't mean you will experience severe weather. It is a given that part of every watch or warning will bust. The polygon system has dramatically reduced that area, but it is still not possible to pinpoint the hazards. In some cases we're talking a few hailstones or one wind gust.

The mentality of "it never happens to me" exists everywhere. It's the reason terms like the Norman bubble are around. Sure, some of it depends on location. But if severe weather is so important to see there are methods to experience it (tours being the safest, I'm not about to advocate chasing without extensive knowledge of storm structure and evolution).

I, for one, consider myself lucky that despite living in coastal Maine and knowing I may never see a severe thunderstorm while I'm living here, I can still enjoy a monster supercell 100 miles away in rural Somerset County, Maine or 1000 miles away in Mitchell County, Kansas.

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PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI  
658 PM EDT SUN MAY 29 2011     

.TIME...   ...EVENT...      ...CITY LOCATION...     ...LAT.LON     
.DATE...   ....MAG....      ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.                
..REMARKS..    

0502 PM     TSTM WND DMG     4 NNW EATON RAPIDS      42.56N 84.68W   
05/29/2011                   EATON              MI   STORM CHASER                    

ONE HOME COMPLETELY DESTROYED. 3 OTHER HOMES DAMAGED.    

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I think part of the problem is that people don't realize how rare of an event severe weather is in the first place. Just because you are outlooked, in a watch or in a warning doesn't mean you will experience severe weather. It is a given that part of every watch or warning will bust. The polygon system has dramatically reduced that area, but it is still not possible to pinpoint the hazards. In some cases we're talking a few hailstones or one wind gust.

The mentality of "it never happens to me" exists everywhere. It's the reason terms like the Norman bubble are around. Sure, some of it depends on location. But if severe weather is so important to see there are methods to experience it (tours being the safest, I'm not about to advocate chasing without extensive knowledge of storm structure and evolution).

I, for one, consider myself lucky that despite living in coastal Maine and knowing I may never see a severe thunderstorm while I'm living here, I can still enjoy a monster supercell 100 miles away in rural Somerset County, Maine or 1000 miles away in Mitchell County, Kansas.

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Folks need to realize that following every single weather event and every storm that happens to pop within 100 miles of their location will result in the inevitable "it never happens here" syndrome even though climo suggests otherwise.

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Folks need to realize that following every single weather event and every storm that happens to pop within 100 miles of their location will result in the inevitable "it never happens here" syndrome even though climo suggests otherwise.

I think most michigan posters understand all of what is being said, but I can see how some michigan posters can get frustrated and unfortunately they vent on here thinking others care. I am not a huge fan of severe weather nor do I care what occurs here. I think simply ignoring them is better than posting, instigating, riling people up, derailing the thread even more, and stating that all michigan posters are complaining. Moderators are there for a reason. Unfortunately they are needed sometimes. Unfortunately, powerball was right all along and was johnny on the spot with the new thread hours ago.

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I know your in construction so you understand... Enough is enough all ready Im 3-4 weeks behind. That only means 80+ hr work weeks :lightning: when it gets dry.

The grass is about as good as it will look the rest of the summer. Don't know how you work 80+ hours in the heat thats coming up the next few days. Even though not much rain is forecasted, unfortunately a pop up severe storm isn't out of the question with the high humidity and heat. Atleast in the winter you can put on clothes. In the summer you're screwed.

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PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI

741 PM EDT SUN MAY 29 2011

.TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON

.DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.

..REMARKS..

0614 PM TSTM WND DMG 1 NNW LAPEER 43.06N 83.33W

05/29/2011 LAPEER MI 911 CALL CENTER

HOUSE MOVED OFF FOUNDATION AND APARTMENT DAMAGE AT

BROOKSHIRE APARTMENTS.

MOSTEIKO

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New cells starting to fire southwest of Omaha. Absolutely obscene 3km EHI values of 17-19 in that area. Effective tornado parameter up near 10. LCLs are much lower there compared to down in KS, so that's an area we need to watch for development very closely I think.

was just looking at the LCL heights compared to whats going on in KS as well.

BTW...

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was just looking at the LCL heights compared to whats going on in KS as well.

BTW...

Insane numbers right there. That cell in southeast Nebraska is alive and kicking, but it's still really struggling against the inhibition. There's some stronger H5 winds down in KS heading that way, but don't know if it will make it before the evening inversion begins to set in.

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Insane numbers right there. That cell in southeast Nebraska is alive and kicking, but it's still really struggling against the inhibition. There's some stronger H5 winds down in KS heading that way, but don't know if it will make it before the evening inversion begins to set in.

its def trying for sure, tops now up to 54kft.

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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED

TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 398

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

715 PM CDT SUN MAY 29 2011

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A

TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

PARTS OF SOUTHWEST IOWA

SMALL PART OF NORTH CENTRAL KANSAS

SOUTHEAST NEBRASKA

EFFECTIVE THIS SUNDAY EVENING FROM 715 PM UNTIL 1100 PM CDT.

TORNADOES...HAIL TO 3 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND

GUSTS TO 75 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE

AREAS.

THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 50 STATUTE

MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 20 MILES WEST SOUTHWEST OF

CONCORDIA KANSAS TO 25 MILES NORTH NORTHEAST OF OMAHA NEBRASKA.

FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH

OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU8).

REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR

TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH

AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR

THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS

AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 396...WW 397...

DISCUSSION...EXTREME INSTABILITY COUPLED WITH STRONGLY VEERING SHEAR

PROFILES ALONG WARM FRONT SUPPORT POTENTIAL FOR TORNADIC SUPERCELLS.

CINH AND WARM AIR ALOFT HAVE BEEN THE CONCERN...HOWEVER STORMS

CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG BOUNDARY INDICATING CINH HAS WEAKENED.

WHILE FOCUSED...RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF SUPERCELLS IS BECOMING MORE

LIKELY ALONG WITH THREAT OF VERY LARGE HAIL AND TORNADOES.

AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL

SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 3 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE

WIND GUSTS TO 65 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO

600. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 24035.

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dtx didn't waste anytime getting out doing surveys

0525 PM TORNADO 3 SSW PERRY 42.78N 84.26W

05/29/2011 SHIAWASSEE MI NWS STORM SURVEY

A STORM SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE NWS FOUND EF1 TORNADO

DAMAGE IN SHIAWASSEE COUNTY. A TORNADO ENTERED THE COUNTY

NEAR LOVEJOY AND LOCKE ROADS AND TRACKED NORTHEAST FOR

2.5 MILES...ENDING AT BEARD AND RUPPERT ROADS. THE DAMAGE

PATH WAS 100 YARDS WIDE. SOFT AND HARD WOOD TREES WERE

UPROOTED AND SNAPPED DUE TO WINDS ESTIMATED AT 90-95 MPH.

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