RowanBrandon Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Congrats Richmond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanBrandon Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 South Jersey had a pretty good one a few years back where it bombed right off the coast after coming through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 South Jersey had a pretty good one a few years back where it bombed right off the coast after coming through. yea its been atleast 3 yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 It's clear this is a DC south event. I highly doubt this changes much. Last year is repeating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 riddle me this one, when was the last time we had a decent clipper around these parts? Had a 3" one last year but good? I think 08 Last year is repeating. For now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isnice Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 It's clear this is a DC south event. I highly doubt this changes much. Last year is repeating. Would you rather an 07-08 repeat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanBrandon Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Last year had Philly involved too. This is even more south this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_D Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Anyone else notice the convective feedback with the low in the Atlantic...this error could be squashing the clipper a little too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 riddle me this one, when was the last time we had a decent clipper around these parts? Last good one for nyc metro was january 2004......had the high snow ratios.....Thats was prob the best clipper i have seen to effect this area. I think its to early to say last year is repeating itself(nyc 50+ of snow, which i would take a repeat of) but i do believe we will be cold and dry for the next week or so. The blocking is to strong, perhaps when it starts to weaken we get somthing. This is not the best pattern for phl-nyc. DCA is far enough south to benfit from clippers, and sne being far enough east to benfit from costals backing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 riddle me this one, when was the last time we had a decent clipper around these parts? I know it would probably be 2004.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Last good one for nyc metro was january 2004......had the high snow ratios.....Thats was prob the best clipper i have seen to effect this area. I think its to early to say last year is repeating itself(nyc 50+ of snow, which i would take a repeat of) but i do believe we will be cold and dry for the next week or so. The blocking is to strong, perhaps when it starts to weaken we get somthing. This is not the best pattern for phl-nyc. DCA is far enough south to benfit from clippers, and sne being far enough east to benfit from costals backing in. Yeah, it was just 10 degrees when it snowed..... that's is pure fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 We will get our turn when the block can rest a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 We will get our turn when the block can rest a bit. Agree. I can't see this La Nina year having storms all the time go south of where they were last year. We just have to cash in while we have the cold air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMolineuxLM1 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Anyone else notice the convective feedback with the low in the Atlantic...this error could be squashing the clipper a little too much. Mike-D please explain to us why you are saying that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_D Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Mike-D please explain to us why you are saying that? Notice the vort max associated with the low pressure. Convective feedback. Compare to 12z: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Notice the vort max associated with the low pressure. Convective feedback. Compare to 12z: nice find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Yeah, it was just 10 degrees when it snowed..... that's is pure fluff. I think I remember this one. Was it a weekday afternoon/evening? I remember ~2" and temps around 10°, by the time I shoveled it was solid ice because it was so cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Notice the vort max associated with the low pressure. Convective feedback. Compare to 12z: That is a nice find. Especially if the GFS continues with the stronger shortwave idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I think I remember this one. Was it a weekday afternoon/evening? I remember ~2" and temps around 10°, by the time I shoveled it was solid ice because it was so cold Yes it was a weekday... Yeah, I believe I had a low temp of around 2 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I think I remember this one. Was it a weekday afternoon/evening? I remember ~2" and temps around 10°, by the time I shoveled it was solid ice because it was so cold It was mostly overnight with temps starting in the mid teens the evening before and ending up in the single digits area wide by the following morning. The snow falling that night and morning was the fluffiest snow I had ever seen in my life. 7 inches of pure cotton. Definitely no ice. The ground underneath was bone dry and I could literally blow snow away with a strong breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 this threat is pretty much toast north of DC. Maybe the Polar vortex will over NYC. DC is going to see accumulating snow before NYC in a La Nina pattern. La Nina FTL. 0_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 We will get our turn when the block can rest a bit. Mid December is going to be the timeframe.-PNA and a rising NAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 This.....never have i seen it snow at those temp in this area....and to get that snow from a clipper and fight the dry area was impressive...... Kttn was 9 degrees and snowing for a time kdyl was 8 degrees and snowing for a time kewr was 8 degrees and snowing for a time klga was 9 degrees and snowing for a time kteb was 7 degrees and snowing for a time Snow started in LGA with a temp of 14 It was mostly overnight with temps starting in the mid teens the evening before and ending up in the single digits area wide by the following morning. The snow falling that night and morning was the fluffiest snow I had ever seen in my life. 7 inches of pure cotton. Definitely no ice. The ground underneath was bone dry and I could literally blow snow away with a strong breath. I talk about that storm in your old thread about 09-10 winter....those are obs from that clipper in 04..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 DC is going to see accumulating snow before NYC in a La Nina pattern. La Nina FTL. 0_o They did in 2007 too. NYC is not in a great spot in this current pattern for the next 5 or 6 days...DC is far enough south to possibly get the clipper and then eastern New England has the next best chance if it retrogrades after going out to sea initially. You need to wait for the block to relax a bit to see some threats. This pattern so fooked up that nothing is set in stone, but that is probably the most likely set of circumstances as they stand at the moment. Certainly possible all of us are left high and dry for a bit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 out to hr 24, storm looks weaker already over the rockies, not as amped either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 They did in 2007 too. NYC is not in a great spot in this current pattern for the next 5 or 6 days...DC is far enough south to possibly get the clipper and then eastern New England has the next best chance if it retrogrades after going out to sea initially. You need to wait for the block to relax a bit to see some threats. This pattern so fooked up that nothing is set in stone, but that is probably the most likely set of circumstances as they stand at the moment. Certainly possible all of us are left high and dry for a bit too. x2.....just posted pretty much the same.....Best chance for phl-nyc is when the block starts to weaken or breakdown.......cold and dry the rule here for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 They did in 2007 too. NYC is not in a great spot in this current pattern for the next 5 or 6 days...DC is far enough south to possibly get the clipper and then eastern New England has the next best chance if it retrogrades after going out to sea initially. You need to wait for the block to relax a bit to see some threats. This pattern so fooked up that nothing is set in stone, but that is probably the most likely set of circumstances as they stand at the moment. Certainly possible all of us are left high and dry for a bit too. Hopefully storms will not cut west of us when the block relaxes. That's my biggest fear . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 What's killing us for those (me of course included) who want to see a large storm is the subtropical jet is just not there in a Nina pattern, which everyone knows that. Perhaps a strong polar jet will do its job later on, once we get the PNA ridge established (its quite tough to get it with you have a strong negative PNA and a downstream trough, rather ridge over the central United States). But do not despair, our luck will happen once the strong negative -AO, and -NAO relax a bit, then get a strong vortmax to pump the energy (strong UL divergence aloft) then get it to dig S enough for everyone to get into it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Unfortunately the NAO could completely switch which would eradicate the vortex and kill off the block, plus with a -PNA, all we'll have to look forward to is a lake cutter. If Richmond or parts of N.C. get accumulating snows out of this, I'll be completely shocked. You don't see that happen too often in a strong La Nina with a clipper. The pattern doesn't look to favorable for snows north of D.C. right now, I'd rather have it look more like last December where we saw storms amplify and get further north, so at least those in and around Philly and NYC got involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 At 48 hrs the vort is alot weaker compared to 54 on the 18z.....seems for whatever one step we took at 18z.....we took 2 steps back on 00z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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