A-L-E-X Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Disagree, most places cleared by 10am, plenty early with all the daylight we've got at this time of time. Already 90F at PHL and upper 80s for much of NE and central NJ. I'm at 86.6 and rising, warmest temp of the year thus far. KEWR at 87. Tom, I think it's not the amount of sunlight as much as the energy of the sunlight being expended on the wet foliage/ground etc so the temps could not rise as quickly. This applies more to NYC and the suburbs than the airports of course, but I do think if we were in a drier pattern the temps would have risen much more quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Tom, I think it's not the amount of sunlight as much as the energy of the sunlight being expended on the wet foliage/ground etc so the temps could not rise as quickly. This applies more to NYC and the suburbs than the airports of course, but I do think if we were in a drier pattern the temps would have risen much more quickly. Alex -- agree the moisture does have an influence, but I tend to think its only a very slight one. TTN hit 89F today with 850's of only 15-16c, and following nearly 0.40" of rain on a pretty saturated ground this morning. Most of the interior Northeast is well above normal wrt temps for the month of May but above normal for precip. No doubt it has some effect, but IMO the pattern has much more say in governing temps. 850's were 1-3c warmer down near BWI/DCA which allowed them to get several degrees hotter than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Alex -- agree the moisture does have an influence, but I tend to think its only a very slight one. TTN hit 89F today with 850's of only 15-16c, and following nearly 0.40" of rain on a pretty saturated ground this morning. Most of the interior Northeast is well above normal wrt temps for the month of May but above normal for precip. No doubt it has some effect, but IMO the pattern has much more say in governing temps. 850's were 1-3c warmer down near BWI/DCA which allowed them to get several degrees hotter than us. Even Philly was much hotter than us. I find it puzzling to see that much of a difference with not much of a sea breeze until the latter part of the afternoon (it got in here around 6 or so.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 My high was 86 with 0.27 inches of rain..... the high here was actually around 1:30 PM and then the temps leveled off until the sea breeze got in here around 6 PM and then they started dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Even Philly was much hotter than us. I find it puzzling to see that much of a difference with not much of a sea breeze until the latter part of the afternoon (it got in here around 6 or so.) Yeah they've definitely been drier than us this month, only 1.9" in PHL compared to 3.4" here in CNJ, and probably more up your way. However - I'm just looking at the sky cover obs now for area stations, and notice how Newark, NYC, LGA etc were all mostly cloudy into the mid afternoon hours. Didn't realize the clouds hung around up there a large chunk of the day. Then once down to Somerville and Trenton, obs were "fair" or "partly cloudy" by late morning. That probably had a lot to do with the discrepancy b/t the Delaware valley and lower hudson valley temp wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 The BDCF looks a little less impressive on the models tonight...not too atypical for guidance to overcorrect. The NAM now has mid 80's throughout much of the area holding on through 18-21z as the 850 temps actually increase. The GFS MOS has a high of 87 at KEWR. Should be a good gradient, though, by afternoon...I expect the warmer spots in NJ to hit 90 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 SPC WRF also backs off on the back door front...has 86+ F temps into the city and NE NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 The back door cold front dropped the dew points around here this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 Wow, the NAM is now much warmer again and gets NE NJ to 88 F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 up to nearly 84 (83.4) at 10:30 am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Feels hotter than yesterday to me up to nearly 84 (83.4) at 10:30 am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 Feels hotter than yesterday to me Yes same here without a doubt. I'm currently sitting outside by the pool and I am incredibly hot after sitting here for 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 Just spiked to 85 in the past 30 minutes. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 it's 81/66 up by me... definitely another warm one out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 12z NAM has nice seasonable weather (mid 70's) from Thursday and on with night lows into to lower to mid 50's. This is for LGA and NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Maybe, I see interior locations staying in the mid 80s except for maybe one or two 82-83 days. Lower humidity should keep it comfortable though with cooler nights. 12z NAM has nice seasonable weather (mid 70's) from Thursday and on with night lows into to lower to mid 50's. This is for LGA and NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Maybe, I see interior locations staying in the mid 80s except for maybe one or two 82-83 days. Lower humidity should keep it comfortable though with cooler nights. Yup. Interior Jersey is a whole different world. Thats why I mentioned LGA and NYC. Didn't run the soundings for interior Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Interesting to note the difference between LGA and JFK today. With the NELY winds via the bdcf, LGA is 77F while JFK is at 84F right now, as warm as they were yesterday. A NE wind for JFK is quite a bit more land based than an E, SE, S or even SW wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Just spiked to 85 in the past 30 minutes. Jesus. I made fun of floodfan27 for all his consecutive posts about rain but its pretty clear you suffer from Thermophobia since 85 scares you, LOLZ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 Roasting out here right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 I made fun of floodfan27 for all his consecutive posts about rain but its pretty clear you suffer from Thermophobia since 85 scares you, LOLZ! Where did you gather that it scares me? Lol. It's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I made fun of floodfan27 for all his consecutive posts about rain but its pretty clear you suffer from Thermophobia since 85 scares you, LOLZ! No 90 degree days for NYC, LGA , BDR, JFK and ISP for April and May. And the next 7 days appears to not have it either. Today is beautiful here. 78 degrees with low humidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I made fun of floodfan27 for all his consecutive posts about rain but its pretty clear you suffer from Thermophobia since 85 scares you, LOLZ! TheTrials, nice to see you around posting again, I guess you needed a recovery after all this typical spring weather we've been having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 A beautiful day here in Long Beach with the current temperature at 84 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 TheTrials, nice to see you around posting again, I guess you needed a recovery after all this typical spring weather we've been having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Light north/east winds don't seem through to keep temps from rising. But once we starting seeing winds switch to the SE, by 2pm temps that will stop: 000SXUS51 KOKX 311557OSOOKX NEW YORK CITY METROPOLITAN WEATHER ROUNDUP NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 1200 PM EDT TUE MAY 31 2011CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS CENTRAL PARK SUNNY 82 61 48 E10 30.23R LAGUARDIA APRT SUNNY 78 58 49 NE12 30.20R KENNEDY INTL SUNNY 86 60 41 N5 30.20R NEWARK/LIBERTY SUNNY 86 56 35 E7 30.19S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 running toe to toe with Newark at the moment...86...but I assume we will stay warmer for a hrs when the seabreeze works in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 82 in da park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 It's impressive for the morning lows to stay above 70 degrees across our area on may 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 86F at JFK on a NE wind (well above forecast I might add). Is this their highest temp of the season thus far? I don't remember them getting this hot in the past week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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