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  On 6/8/2011 at 1:01 PM, earthlight said:

850 temps of 22-23c this afternoon (23 C next frame)

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94 today and 97-99 tomorrow, areawide.

850 temps are warmer today then tomorrow, according to NAM. 22 today and 20 tomorrow.

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  On 6/8/2011 at 1:17 PM, NorEaster27 said:

That looks much cooler than previous forecasts, especially NE of NYC

I wouldn't even go by what the surface temps are showing on those maps. I'd go more by 850 temps. If they indeed will be up near 22-23, then upper 90's is almost a guaranteed certainty and 100+ is definitely in the cards for some of the warmer locations.

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  On 6/8/2011 at 1:17 PM, NorEaster27 said:

That looks much cooler than previous forecasts, especially NE of NYC

Yeah, I'm not sure Southern Westchester is going to hit the forecast high of 96F. It's 78.7F here so we've got a chance as the temperature has been rising pretty rapidly, but I wouldn't say mid-upper 90s is a lock.

Dewpoints are pretty high though, 69F here. Very muggy out but luckily I'm in an AC workplace.

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  On 6/8/2011 at 1:25 PM, tornadojay said:

I wouldn't even go by what the surface temps are showing on those maps. I'd go more by 850 temps. If they indeed will be up near 22-23, then upper 90's is almost a guaranteed certainty and 100+ is definitely in the cards for some of the warmer locations.

Doesn't that map show 850s of 18-20C, not 22-23C? I don't see the 21-22C 850s that Earthlight mentions on the above map.

I agree that 850s of 23C should produce widespread upper 90s/low 100s, but it depends a lot on cloud cover. Humidity is also pretty high so that may reduce the heat a bit. It's hard to get to 100F here in Dobbs Ferry without drying/compressional warming on a W/NW downsloping wind.

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  On 6/8/2011 at 1:28 PM, nzucker said:

Doesn't that map show 850s of 18-20C, not 22-23C? I don't see the 21-22C 850s that Earthlight mentions on the above map.

I agree that 850s of 23C should produce widespread upper 90s/low 100s, but it depends a lot on cloud cover. Humidity is also pretty high so that may reduce the heat a bit. It's hard to get to 100F here in Dobbs Ferry without drying/compressional warming on a W/NW downsloping wind.

I didn't look too closely at his map. I just assumed John had the correct numbers, and I believe he does, as shown below... Yes, cloud cover will play a role, but if you read the morning NWS discussions, they expect lower dewpoints to be able to mix down today so the dew point should probably drop a bit during the day.

Station: EWR Lat: 40.68 Lon: -74.17 Elev: 7 Closest grid pt: 24.4 km.

Initialization Time: 11-06-08 0600 UTC

PARAMETER/TIME 000 006 012 018 024 030 036 042 048 054 060 066 072

------------------- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------

DAY / HOUR 08/06 08/12 08/18 09/00 09/06 09/12 09/18 10/00 10/06 10/12 10/18 11/00 11/06

------------------- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------

TEMPS

SFC (2 M) (F) 67 73 86 79 72 75 88 79 71 73 83 70 63

850 MB © 17 19 21 22 22 22 21 19 17 18 16 15 14

700 MB © 7 8 9 10 9 9 9 7 7 7 7 6 5

500 MB © -9 -11 -10 -11 -11 -11 -10 -11 -10 -12 -11 -11 -10

1000-500 THCK 572 572 575 577 576 574 576 574 572 571 570 569 566

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  On 6/8/2011 at 1:28 PM, nzucker said:

Doesn't that map show 850s of 18-20C, not 22-23C? I don't see the 21-22C 850s that Earthlight mentions on the above map.

It's right to the left of the 20C red line...the thin black contour says 21 c and the one to the left of that says 22 C.

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