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May 2011 NYC metro area obs./discussion


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I'm joking lol. But heat has been a fail here all week. I'm sure NJ has been broiling as they always do no doubt. Torch to me means upper 80s at a minimum AREA WIDE with a dewpoint of at least 60. If 90 and above then humidity levels don't matter. But the readings have to be area wide.

Agree 100%.

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Highs thru 8PM... for the first time I think we have a legitimate 90 at an airport in NYC metro...

NYC 83?

LGA 82

JFK 78

TEB 88

EWR 88

HPN 82

CDW 87

FRG 77

MMU 88

ISP 77

BLM 84

SMQ 87

DXR 83

BDR 78

12N 84

FWN 85

SWF 84

HWV 77

MGJ 86

NEL 90 *ding ding*

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I have said for days the talk of big heat today from NYC on east was in serious trouble with the modeled S / SE wind. It dosen't matter what the NAM raw output says when the mean wind flow is onshore.

and in response to your posts, plenty of people said no one was predicting heat on Long Island.

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The way it's been talked about over the past several days you would have thought everyone was routinely hitting temps north of 90.

The only NYC poster talking about decent heat was Pazzo. Regardless, 90º is a whole lot closer to reality than 70s and rain.

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I have said for days the talk of big heat today from NYC on east was in serious trouble with the modeled S / SE wind. It dosen't matter what the NAM raw output says when the mean wind flow is onshore.

Exactly. At least around here this time of year, temps won't hit 80 on a south wind. Not a chance. We really need a west component to spike up there with the rest of the area (and we did, particularly last summer).

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a day or two maybe, but overall it looks like temps in the 70s next week with frequent rain chances. Memorial day weknd looks wet :(

btw, glass house:

Temp. wise for NYC and points east, he was pretty close, because of the maritime influence. But precip. wise, a surprising turnaround.

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This is really just getting annoying now. Can you not read the maps of New Jersey posted that show upper 80 F temps? I've had a west wind all day. Newark had a southeast wind until 4. They veered and now spiked to 87. Your last four posts have had absolutely no substance.

Must be a false OB since the geniuses in this thread think we are heat junkies and are the only people experiencing upper 80s

He's just saying that most people aren't experiencing these temperatures, and that continually using the SW areas of the CWA for verification of a heat wave is heinously inaccurate. If we want to use data from Monmouth County to verify/discuss a NYC metro heat wave, then why aren't people allowed to post numbers from Montauk, from Islip, to say it's been cool?

It's NOT in Dobbs Ferry. When you search for "Dobbs Ferry" on Weather Underground, you get a station that is in Tarrytown, NY. Done.

Just stop it already, I'm sick of this BS.

Then how are u 3-5 degrees warmer then them this whole week?

Is it really that complicated? I've said it about 30 times. My wind has been west-southwest. Newarks wind has been east southeast. They had a seabreeze yesterday. I did not. They had southeast winds for 4 hours today. I did not.

As soon as their wind direction veered and the seabreeze boundary backed to the east, they spiked to 87. That has been where I've been all week. No sea breeze, no marine layer.

That's all there is to it.

If it's not in his backyard, it didn't happen. If he lived here, and we lived where he lives, he would accuse us of placing our thermometers in refrigerators or something.

You are running in circles with your posts. Just because I have the same average highs as Newark doesn't mean that the conditions will be the same in this synoptic setup. So I'm supposed to ignore my averages because Newark is cooler? Makes absolutely no sense at all. My average high temperature is maybe a bit above Newarks. So take a degree off my anomalies.

+14, +12, +14.

Lol.

Not accusing anyone of lying.

A lot of us are joking around. The way John and others joke with Noreaster.

We'll stop joking around. The heat guys are very sensitive I guess.

Yeah, it's been impressive here too. We got up to 89 when the winds went west around 4pm. Newark spiked to 87 at that time too.

I've been in the pool today--it was awesome.

But this is all heresay--because this heat did not happen. According to a few posters here we are living in an alternate universe. It is actually 78-82 in the entire area and nothing more. The upper 80's throughout most of New Jersey including Newark, a NYC Metro reporting OB station, do not exist.

Jesus does the heat really get peoples panties in a bunch? seems it.

got to 82 today

LOL whats with all this drama sheesh? And why do people love to gleefully point out that it's not hot yet? Or argue over a degree here and there? I hope it's 105 degrees next week and the sun goes supernova in July so we can all roast!

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And then people are worried about what's going to happen in June, when the models have behaved like crap lately. The pattern has discernably shifted and there's no reason to think it's magically going to go back to cutoffs in the northeast. The chances of that happening in the summer are pretty slim anyway.

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Underdone fcst highs today anyone?

My NWS point and click has 81F with south winds.

As of 10am I'm already at 79.2 with light SW/SSWLY winds.

Gotta watch the NAM carefully in these situations--06z run got a bunch warmer. 84+ F this afternoon even in the city.

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I must disagree with your definition of a torch. Those departures are 50s in January. Warm, for sure. Torch? Not really. 60s in January qualifies as a torch, at least in the city. 50s is just a mild day.

For this time of year, 90s are required, IMHO, for a "torch".

Wouldn't duration be a factor?

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Were in a day 5 severe outlook, wow. Maybe we get a crack at a moderate risk on this one.

Yeah as I posted a few pages back I'm really liking that Wednesday severe threat. Deep low to our north, strong moisture advection, impressive thermodynamic and kinematic environment, land based sfc winds should prevent marine layer from being any issue. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a mdt risk with it.

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It's also our only real rain threat of the next 7 days. With the building heat I can't believe I might have to start thinking about my lawn turning brown already! hopefully this year unlike last we'll at least get some good thunderstorm chances mixed in with the heat in June/July.

Yeah as I posted a few pages back I'm really liking that Wednesday severe threat. Deep low to our north, strong moisture advection, impressive thermodynamic and kinematic environment, land based sfc winds should prevent marine layer from being any issue. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a mdt risk with it.

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