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May 2011 NYC metro area obs./discussion


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I hope so. I don't think I cut as much as you do, but that week of rain really screwed things up. On my last lawn saturday that was clumping like no other, random shower just poured on me. Made a complete mess. Just has been my luck last week.

there is always one week from hell every spring that while we are working we ponder giving this up and finding another job..last week was it

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Ok there. The "heat" is affecting you and the other 2 heat mongers.

Lol.

This is really just getting annoying now. Can you not read the maps of New Jersey posted that show upper 80 F temps? I've had a west wind all day. Newark had a southeast wind until 4. They veered and now spiked to 87. Your last four posts have had absolutely no substance.

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This is really just getting annoying now. Can you not read the maps of New Jersey posted that show upper 80 F temps? I've had a west wind all day. Newark had a southeast wind until 4. They veered and now spiked to 87. Your last four posts have had absolutely no substance.

He's just saying that most people aren't experiencing these temperatures, and that continually using the SW areas of the CWA for verification of a heat wave is heinously inaccurate. If we want to use data from Monmouth County to verify/discuss a NYC metro heat wave, then why aren't people allowed to post numbers from Montauk, from Islip, to say it's been cool?

The same way nzucker's dobbs ferry reading isnt indicative of dobbs ferry. Lol

It's NOT in Dobbs Ferry. When you search for "Dobbs Ferry" on Weather Underground, you get a station that is in Tarrytown, NY. Done.

Just stop it already, I'm sick of this BS.

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Lol...grab a beer or something.

He's just saying that most people aren't experiencing these temperatures, and that continually using the SW areas of the CWA for verification of a heat wave is heinously inaccurate. If we want to use data from Monmouth County to verify/discuss a NYC metro heat wave, then why aren't people allowed to post numbers from Montauk, from Islip, to say it's been cool?

It's NOT in Dobbs Ferry. When you search for "Dobbs Ferry" on Weather Underground, you get a station that is in Tarrytown, NY. Done.

Just stop it already, I'm sick of this BS.

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Then how are u 3-5 degrees warmer then them this whole week?

Is it really that complicated? I've said it about 30 times. My wind has been west-southwest. Newarks wind has been east southeast. They had a seabreeze yesterday. I did not. They had southeast winds for 4 hours today. I did not.

As soon as their wind direction veered and the seabreeze boundary backed to the east, they spiked to 87. That has been where I've been all week. No sea breeze, no marine layer.

That's all there is to it.

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Is it really that complicated? I've said it about 30 times. My wind has been west-southwest. Newarks wind has been east southeast. They had a seabreeze yesterday. I did not. They had southeast winds for 4 hours today. I did not.

As soon as their wind direction veered and the seabreeze boundary backed to the east, they spiked to 87. That has been where I've been all week. No sea breeze, no marine layer.

That's all there is to it.

We are not saying your thermometer is off. I'm definitely not.

All I'm saying is that you have been 3-5 degrees warmer then Newark all week. So it's tough to use Newarks exact climo stats as anomalies.

Go have a beer and bronze by your pool.

That's all.

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It got 78 F here and 77 F offiically in Islip Airport so I am not complaining about it at all. Despite sea breezes the sun was out so it was few degrees warmer than yesterday. I will take the upper 70's any day over the 50's and low 60's I had on Sunday and Monday.

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This is really just getting annoying now. Can you not read the maps of New Jersey posted that show upper 80 F temps? I've had a west wind all day. Newark had a southeast wind until 4. They veered and now spiked to 87. Your last four posts have had absolutely no substance.

If it's not in his backyard, it didn't happen. If he lived here, and we lived where he lives, he would accuse us of placing our thermometers in refrigerators or something.

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John - actually what's amazing is I've had due southerly winds all day, gusting to 15-20mph at times, and still reached 87F here only 10 miles from the ocean. Of course the beaches in Monmouth were only near 70F, but I was pretty impressed with the warmth given the southerly surface winds.

Re Newark - there's been a low level boundary hanging around that area eastward much of this week, with SE winds at the sfc. Their ASOS is also right along the bay, much more susceptible to cooling breezes than inland Essex, Union, Somerset, Middlesex, Monmouth etc.

Just came in from 2 hours outside in the pool, feels like mid summer out there honestly, not chilly at all getting out.

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Honestly this is a rare time of year where the temps in NJ and weather in general are alot different. We get in on the sun and warm temps while the city east gets the marine layer and sea breeze. Fact of life living on the coast. PS this is probably the best Memorial Day weekend weather wise at the Jersey shore I can ever remember. Absolutely gorgeous. Headed down to Wildwood for the night.

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We are not saying your thermometer is off. I'm definitely not.

All I'm saying is that you have been 3-5 degrees warmer then Newark all week. So it's tough to use Newarks exact climo stats as anomalies.

Go have a beer and bronze by your pool.

That's all.

You are running in circles with your posts. Just because I have the same average highs as Newark doesn't mean that the conditions will be the same in this synoptic setup. So I'm supposed to ignore my averages because Newark is cooler? Makes absolutely no sense at all. My average high temperature is maybe a bit above Newarks. So take a degree off my anomalies.

+14, +12, +14.

Lol.

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If it's not in his backyard, it didn't happen. If he lived here, and we lived where he lives, he would accuse us of placing our thermometers in refrigerators or something.

Not accusing anyone of lying.

A lot of us are joking around. The way John and others joke with Noreaster.

We'll stop joking around. The heat guys are very sensitive I guess.

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John - actually what's amazing is I've had due southerly winds all day, gusting to 15-20mph at times, and still reached 87F here only 10 miles from the ocean. Of course the beaches in Monmouth were only near 70F, but I was pretty impressed with the warmth given the southerly surface winds.

Re Newark - there's been a low level boundary hanging around that area eastward much of this week, with SE winds at the sfc. Their ASOS is also right along the bay, much more susceptible to cooling breezes than inland Essex, Union, Somerset, Middlesex, Monmouth etc.

Just came in from 2 hours outside in the pool, feels like mid summer out there honestly, not chilly at all getting out.

Yeah, it's been impressive here too. We got up to 89 when the winds went west around 4pm. Newark spiked to 87 at that time too.

I've been in the pool today--it was awesome.

But this is all heresay--because this heat did not happen. According to a few posters here we are living in an alternate universe. It is actually 78-82 in the entire area and nothing more. The upper 80's throughout most of New Jersey including Newark, a NYC Metro reporting OB station, do not exist.

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It can be taken either way. Here, it was a torch. +13, +15, and +15 on three days is a torch to me, regardless of the season. Those departures in January would have half the board jumping off the empire state building.

I must disagree with your definition of a torch. Those departures are 50s in January. Warm, for sure. Torch? Not really. 60s in January qualifies as a torch, at least in the city. 50s is just a mild day.

For this time of year, 90s are required, IMHO, for a "torch".

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I must disagree with your definition of a torch. Those departures are 50s in January. Warm, for sure. Torch? Not really. 60s in January qualifies as a torch, at least in the city. 50s is just a mild day.

For this time of year, 90s are required, IMHO, for a "torch".

Yeah I posted yesterday how I think much of the debate stems from how "torch" is a variable term. Mid-upper 50s in January for more than a day is a torch to me. Maybe not to others.

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Yeah I posted yesterday how I think much of the debate stems from how "torch" is a variable term. Mid-upper 50s in January for more than a day is a torch to me. Maybe not to others.

Mid-upper 50s in January is getting near 20 degree departures.

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Jersey got into the upper 80's. It failed for NYC and LI but not for most of Jersey.

I'm joking lol. But heat has been a fail here all week. I'm sure NJ has been broiling as they always do no doubt. Torch to me means upper 80s at a minimum AREA WIDE with a dewpoint of at least 60. If 90 and above then humidity levels don't matter. But the readings have to be area wide.

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