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May 2011 NYC metro area obs./discussion


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I just hit 80 degrees here in Long Beach.

Yup-- 80 for the first time this year! The humidity is horrendous though and it's still mostly cloudy. 83 here right now with a strong west wind. Where's the sun?

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Hot as hell here Tim and now mostly sunny 80/66.

Visible shows clouds breaking up everywhere.

Not that impressive of a torch here in Westchester County, looks as if my cooler guess is going to verify nicely for my area. Clouds have put up a mighty battle against the warm 850s and W downsloping winds. Aside from a few peeks of sunshine during my lunch hour, it's been cloudy all day, and I had a good view of the sky from the bay windows in the science lab where I was subbing.

OVC

77.5/67 (high for the day)

W@7mph

HPN, the official station for Westchester County, is down to 73F...it looks as if their high was 76F before the clouds returned. Even though the marine layer fog and stratus burned off in the morning, it was quickly replaced by cumulus as the instability grew with daytime heating. Feels pretty warm given the high humidity, however. Glad I had an AC in my classroom or the kids would have been crazy.

Temps are rising here again.

We're at the highest reading for the day, but not rising very fast. It's too late in the day, there's too much cloud cover, and the downsloping winds are fairly weak. Having one day in late May in the upper 70s after two days in the 50s hardly qualifies as "torch." Sorry.

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JFK did make 80F, however, reasonably impressive.

We're seeing some low 80s with 850s around 14C....12z ECM jacks it up to like 22C at Day 8. Triple digits?

Yeah,I was 80 degrees here in Long Beach also before the sea breeze kicked in.

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well, 86 is a degree warmer than I thought and that is probably the high, but its not approaching 90, its def. mid 80's. Everyone to the N and E of there never got above the 82-84.

Nice to have a dry day.

Your calling bust on the heat was totally correct for Westchester at the very least. A meager 77.8F here, the high for the day so far, not impressive considering it's supposed to be in the mid 70s when we're approaching June. And that's at a fairly warm station....HPN is only at 74F, already a couple degrees off the high. Weather Channel shows 75F as the average high for Dobbs Ferry on 5/24, and we're only a few degrees on the warm side of that, not a torch at all. Those counting on clouds to hold temperatures were correct in the northern suburbs. Farther south it did get a little warmer, but to me a torch in late May means upper 80s to low 90s.

NWS also went too aggressive on the heat here. They went with an 88F high for Dobbs Ferry as late as yesterday morning, then corrected to 83F yesterday evening. Having lived here for many years, I knew there was no way we could approach 90F with the marine layer fog, the debris in the warm sector, and the lack of a WNW downsloping wind. It's too early in the season to have big heat on mostly cloudy days with S/SW winds, and 850s are only like 13C which isn't going to give you a high of 88F with overcast skies and poor wind direction. Overall, I am fairly satisfied with my argument that this week wouldn't be a torch...The high was also only 62.4F yesterday (a day that many had progged in the mid 70s) and 59.0F on Sunday (a day that many forecasted mid-upper 60s). Heat has been a FAIL...until next week, folks.

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You are the only location that failed. Literally. Long Island was into the 80s. Newark hit 86. No wonder you don't like spring/summer. I'd be ready to commit myself if I had a high of 78 while everybody else was well into the mid 80s.

I dont know what kind of lack of west wind you're talking about. I've been partly cloudy with a stiff west wind all day. Most stations have.

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You are the only location that failed. Literally. Long Island was into the 80s. Newark hit 86. No wonder you don't like spring/summer. I'd be ready to commit myself if I had a high of 78 while everybody else was well into the mid 80s.

I dont know what kind of lack of west wind you're talking about. I've been partly cloudy with a stiff west wind all day. Most stations have.

A lot of LI wasn't in the 80s...Islip only got up to 78F, Westhampton Beach only got to 69F...so farther out on the Island it wasn't nearly as warm, as expected. You've definitely been exaggerating the extent and intensity of this heat. Everyone certainly wasn't well into the mid 80s considering that several official stations in LI and Westchester only reached 60s and 70s, KNYC only seems to have gotten to 80F and is now down to 79F, Sussex Airport in NNJ looks to have topped out around 79-80F, etc. That doesn't equate to "you are the only location that failed. everybody was well into the mid 80s." Don't know where you're getting this stuff from but this isn't even close to a torch...every day starting with Sunday has been considerably cooler than expected. Where is the 85-90F that Tom promised me? Where were the mid 70s yesterday?

Winds are fairly light and are more SW/W...we tend to do better on a NW wind as it downslopes more off the Catskills, especially in the northern suburbs. 12z ECM shows the potential for a more northwest component to the flow at Day 7/8 which could bring the big heat.

Anyway, the warmest station hitting 86F with most in upper 70s to around 80 doesn't constitute a torch. If the average high in Dobbs Ferry for 5/24 is 75F, then places like Central NJ probably have averages in the upper 70s right now. Pretty much everyone is within 5F or so of their normal high temperatures for late May. Rest of the week looks a bit cooler with the exception of potential warmth Friday.

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Your calling bust on the heat was totally correct for Westchester at the very least. A meager 77.8F here, the high for the day so far, not impressive considering it's supposed to be in the mid 70s when we're approaching June. And that's at a fairly warm station....HPN is only at 74F, already a couple degrees off the high. Weather Channel shows 75F as the average high for Dobbs Ferry on 5/24, and we're only a few degrees on the warm side of that, not a torch at all. Those counting on clouds to hold temperatures were correct in the northern suburbs. Farther south it did get a little warmer, but to me a torch in late May means upper 80s to low 90s.

NWS also went too aggressive on the heat here. They went with an 88F high for Dobbs Ferry as late as yesterday morning, then corrected to 83F yesterday evening. Having lived here for many years, I knew there was no way we could approach 90F with the marine layer fog, the debris in the warm sector, and the lack of a WNW downsloping wind. It's too early in the season to have big heat on mostly cloudy days with S/SW winds, and 850s are only like 13C which isn't going to give you a high of 88F with overcast skies and poor wind direction. Overall, I am fairly satisfied with my argument that this week wouldn't be a torch...The high was also only 62.4F yesterday (a day that many had progged in the mid 70s) and 59.0F on Sunday (a day that many forecasted mid-upper 60s). Heat has been a FAIL...until next week, folks.

No, you can't utilize your backyard (which seems to be one of the coldest highs anywhere in the tristate) to represent the area. You, Trials and the cool crew busted and will continue to bust hard the rest of the week. The majority of the area was well into the 80s today, save for central/eastern LI and your area NE.

EWR hit 86 so far today, and will likely top 86 at least 2 more times in the next 4 days (Friday 85-90 most places, save LI and immediate coast). Your area is obviously a local microclimate as even SW Ct is near 80F. Bridgeport at 79F last ob.

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The National Weather Service in Mount Holly NJ has issued a

* Severe Thunderstorm Warning for...

extreme north central Atlantic County in southern New Jersey...

southern Burlington County in southern New Jersey...

east central Camden County in southern New Jersey...

central Ocean County in southern New Jersey...

* until 530 PM EDT

* at 427 PM EDT... National Weather Service Doppler radar indicated a

severe thunderstorm capable of producing quarter size hail... and

damaging winds to 60 mph. This storm was located near

Atco... or 19 miles southeast of Camden... and moving east at 35 mph.

* The severe thunderstorm will be near...

Atsion around 435 PM EDT...

Shamong and Tabernacle around 440 PM EDT...

Chatsworth and Presidential Lakes around 455 PM EDT...

Old Halfway around 505 PM EDT...

Whiting and Cedar Glen lakes around 510 PM EDT...

Bamber Lake around 515 PM EDT...

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

This is a dangerous storm. If you are in its path... prepare

immediately for damaging winds... destructive hail... and deadly cloud

to ground lightning. People outside should move to a shelter...

preferably inside a strong building but away from windows.

Lat... Lon 3971 7479 3972 7488 3979 7493 4008 7424

3979 7416

time... Mot... loc 2028z 249deg 32kt 3977 7483

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