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Why the Stratosphere Gave a False ENSO Signal in the Spring


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Little change overall, but easterlies will be raging over the dateline for several days at least, so next week should bring a cooler update.

13JUL2011 	21.9 0.0 	25.7 0.1 	27.1-0.1 	28.5 0.0
20JUL2011 	22.1 0.4 	25.6 0.1 	26.9-0.1 	28.4-0.2

I'm interested to see the effects of this WWB near 150E ... looks like it may not have much of a future. But it's certainly made an imprint on GLAAM and is well connected with the rise in the MJO right now.

We continue to see an overall trend pushing low-frequency OLR anomalies eastward from Indonesia and the WPAC toward the dateline. Especially with the descending QBO easterlies, a weak La Nina this winter could be more east-based, leaving the west Pacific open for MJO waves

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I'm interested to see the effects of this WWB near 150E ... looks like it may not have much of a future. But it's certainly made an imprint on GLAAM and is well connected with the rise in the MJO right now.

We continue to see an overall trend pushing low-frequency OLR anomalies eastward from Indonesia and the WPAC toward the dateline. Especially with the descending QBO easterlies, a weak La Nina this winter could be more east-based, leaving the west Pacific open for MJO waves

Yeah, almost no future, it seems. Is past it's prime

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Yeah, almost no future, it seems. Is past it's prime

We haven't had a negative SOI reading since July 10th, and we've had double-digit positives the last few days.

Considering the burst of strong trades coming, I think we'll see at least a weak La Niña. Some of the PDO waters near California seem to have cooled as well, and the connection to the Humboldt/Antarctic current is still extant.

Global AAM has also stayed low after a spike in May/June:

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We haven't had a negative SOI reading since July 10th, and we've had double-digit positives the last few days.

Considering the burst of strong trades coming, I think we'll see at least a weak La Niña. Some of the PDO waters near California seem to have cooled as well, and the connection to the Humboldt/Antarctic current is still extant.

Global AAM has also stayed low after a spike in May/June:

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I pretty much agree. I think the question may be how strong it gets and whether it can get into the moderate range.

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27JUL2011 	21.9 0.5 	25.3 0.0 	26.8-0.2 	28.4-0.1
03AUG2011 	21.5 0.3 	25.0-0.2 	26.4-0.4 	28.3-0.2

Significant cooling, especially for a weekly, across the basin. I'll expect this to continue for next weekly, a bit more moderate, and probably going back to weak Niña territory very soon (for weeklies and ASO trimonthly).

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Clear temp anomaly reversal getting established at 30mb, and starting to appear at 50mb

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An in phase QBO-Hadley Cell z-circulation is currently in progress across the southern hemisphere. The QBO circulation is promoting a tightening of the Hadley Cell and intensification, leading to more equatorward cyclonic wave breaking in the southern hemisphere and a stronger high north of 30°S. This can in part explain the enhanced trades lately. All of this began around mid-July and will probably wane a bit in a couple weeks (usual time scale).

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2011 9.18 10.05 10.44 10.71 10.02 3.90 0.44

QBO values at 30mb were slightly positive and I expect negative values for this month as the QBO falls negative.

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GLAAM remains negative with some warming recently though.

I'm thinking Weak-Mod Nina at this point with a -QBO and consistent Greenland Blocking.

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GLAAM remains negative with some warming recently though.

GLAAM doesn't measure temperature. Now, it may be correlated with ENSO and therefore have a lame correlation coefficient to temperature, but this is a loose connection at best. Either way, you obviously need to read up on what the GLAAM is and why it is important to the global wind budget. I am sorry if that sounded mean but I couldn't in good conscious let you continue to think that this was a measure of temperature.

Maybe start here for a good read: http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/1520-0469%281997%29054%3C1445%3ATDOIAA%3E2.0.CO%3B2 ... in fact I may reread this one myself. :scooter:

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GLAAM doesn't measure temperature. Now, it may be correlated with ENSO and therefore have a lame correlation coefficient to temperature, but this is a loose connection at best. Either way, you obviously need to read up on what the GLAAM is and why it is important to the global wind budget. I am sorry if that sounded mean but I couldn't in good conscious let you continue to think that this was a measure of temperature.

Maybe start here for a good read: http://journals.amet...AA%3E2.0.CO%3B2 ... in fact I may reread this one myself. :scooter:

I'll echo that recommendation. That's a good one for folks to read. I have it somewhere at home and probably should re-read it again since it has been awhile.

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GLAAM doesn't measure temperature. Now, it may be correlated with ENSO and therefore have a lame correlation coefficient to temperature, but this is a loose connection at best. Either way, you obviously need to read up on what the GLAAM is and why it is important to the global wind budget. I am sorry if that sounded mean but I couldn't in good conscious let you continue to think that this was a measure of temperature.

Maybe start here for a good read: http://journals.amet...AA%3E2.0.CO%3B2 ... in fact I may reread this one myself. :scooter:

Hmm.....I didn't say it measures temperatures. I was just referring to the GLAAM in general and its trends.

Though thanks for that paper. It'll be interesting to read through it and learn more about the GLAAM. :)

And BTW latest SST chart shows the coldest anomalies in regions 3.4 and 4 along with a cool patch developing in region 1+2.

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SOI remains positive as well.

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GLAAM doesn't measure temperature. Now, it may be correlated with ENSO and therefore have a lame correlation coefficient to temperature, but this is a loose connection at best. Either way, you obviously need to read up on what the GLAAM is and why it is important to the global wind budget. I am sorry if that sounded mean but I couldn't in good conscious let you continue to think that this was a measure of temperature.

Maybe start here for a good read: http://journals.amet...AA%3E2.0.CO%3B2 ... in fact I may reread this one myself. :scooter:

Boo!

I'm the product of the current ADD era (instant gratificatiion). Do you have something more straightforward like negative mountain torques in South America = _________, preferably in 500 words or less :lol: (no, seriously, shorter = better).

The article is a bit over my head. Do you have something that can teach what fluxes, momentum transports, and eddies are? I think I found a decent article here: My link, but it's really long.

Thanks for your help and understanding.

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Boo!

I'm the product of the current ADD era (instant gratificatiion). Do you have something more straightforward like negative mountain torques in South America = _________, preferably in 500 words or less :lol: (no, seriously, shorter = better).

The article is a bit over my head. Do you have something that can teach what fluxes, momentum transports, and eddies are? I think I found a decent article here: My link, but it's really long.

Thanks for your help and understanding.

That's still too tough for me. I need pictures and graphs and charts!

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Does anyone have any info on the difference between west and east based ninas on forcing patterns during the winter time? I know for a nino event, west based is more favorable in general for snow in the east. Does la nina have a favored postition?

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GLAAM doesn't measure temperature. Now, it may be correlated with ENSO and therefore have a lame correlation coefficient to temperature, but this is a loose connection at best. Either way, you obviously need to read up on what the GLAAM is and why it is important to the global wind budget. I am sorry if that sounded mean but I couldn't in good conscious let you continue to think that this was a measure of temperature.

Maybe start here for a good read: http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/1520-0469%281997%29054%3C1445%3ATDOIAA%3E2.0.CO%3B2 ... in fact I may reread this one myself. :scooter:

Does anyone have a copy of Weickmann and Sardeshmukh (1994)? Google Scholar doesn't have the pdf available. I'll be honest, I had a hard time comprehending Weickmann et al. (1997) and feel like going back and re-reading WS (1994) might help me grasp it better.

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