dsaur Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I know some of you weather loving tree people, or tree loving weather people can help me out and identify this tree. I used to live next to it, and dearly loved it, but never knew what it was. I'm going with Silver Beech, but I'm not the least bit sure. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Tony Edit: Got the goods, finally. New Pics. I'm going with asexual/cottonless cottonwood because of the lower trunk, but the leaves don't have the point...so I'm still not so sure I've ordered a cottonless cottonwood so I'm curious to see what the leaves on a known true hybred look like. If I'm wrong, oh well, I love trees so I'll just order up some more when I/you figure out what it is T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It looks similar to a paper birch tree....... I'm not the best at identifying trees/plants....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrel2 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 looks like an ornamental aspen tree to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiaWx Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 looks like a tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQPublic Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Sorry. The pics aren't great. Do you have a closer pic that isn't blurry or has a glare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Gopher wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanc2001 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 bigtooth aspen? silver birch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclonicjunkie Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Definately a BIG birch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQPublic Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I really don't think it's a birch. The only one that should grow 40 miles south of Atl is a river birch and that's not a river birch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Thanks for the responses! Yeah, bad pics but I have to get permission to get in close and can't find the folks home. Birch, I thought, had peeling bark, and this didn't peel. Not sheets of canoe bark anyway. It is ten years since I lived there and it has grown a good bit, so it is a big growing tree. The leaves are lighter on the bottom and when the wind blows they dance around and flip from back to front, and back, so it kind of shimmers in the afternoon sun. It also had sprouts that would come up from it's roots so there would be 30 or 40 little clones growing up all around it until you cut the grass and them with it. I rooted some of the sprouts when I moved but they didn't make it in the drought. I've looked all over the inner webs but can't find a great site full of pics for comparison. Best I can come up with is some kind of beech. The guy who used rent it to me, was heavy into Burpee catalogs and such and it could be some odd brand of tree from anywhere in the world. So I don't ask for help lightly. Thanks ya'll. Tony Edit: Ok, now I think it's an asexual cotton wood, as it didn't have the cotton the females have. And the non females propagate by root sprouts among other things. And this....".The leaf of the cottonwood is also a good identifying characteristic. They are bright green and have a broad triangular shape. The base of the leaf is relatively straight. Its edges are jagged and the tip of the leaf comes to a sharp point. Any breeze at all make the leaves twist and turn on their petiole (stem). Even on what appears to be a still day, the cottonwood leaves create a glimmering effect because of this phenomena." And they grow big fast. This pdf. says they can grow like this one has. At least 50 feet in 10 years. http://www.kshs.org/teachers/trunks/pdfs/symb_jtree.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncjoaquin Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 It looks similar to a paper birch tree....... I'm not the best at identifying trees/plants....lol Paper Birch was my 1st thought also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Thanks for the responses! Yeah, bad pics but I have to get permission to get in close and can't find the folks home. Birch, I thought, had peeling bark, and this didn't peel. Not sheets of canoe bark anyway. It is ten years since I lived there and it has grown a good bit, so it is a big growing tree. The leaves are lighter on the bottom and when the wind blows they dance around and flip from back to front, and back, so it kind of shimmers in the afternoon sun. It also had sprouts that would come up from it's roots so there would be 30 or 40 little clones growing up all around it until you cut the grass and them with it. I rooted some of the sprouts when I moved but they didn't make it in the drought. I've looked all over the inner webs but can't find a great site full of pics for comparison. Best I can come up with is some kind of beech. The guy who used rent it to me, was heavy into Burpee catalogs and such and it could be some odd brand of tree from anywhere in the world. So I don't ask for help lightly. Thanks ya'll. Tony Edit: Ok, now I think it's an asexual cotton wood, as it didn't have the cotton the females have. And the non females propagate by root sprouts among other things. And this....".The leaf of the cottonwood is also a good identifying characteristic. They are bright green and have a broad triangular shape. The base of the leaf is relatively straight. Its edges are jagged and the tip of the leaf comes to a sharp point. Any breeze at all make the leaves twist and turn on their petiole (stem). Even on what appears to be a still day, the cottonwood leaves create a glimmering effect because of this phenomena." And they grow big fast. This pdf. says they can grow like this one has. At least 50 feet in 10 years. http://www.kshs.org/.../symb_jtree.pdf that is a characteristic of trees in the Populous family, such as Aspen and Cotton Wood...Cotton Woods are very large trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEGa Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I really don't think it's a birch. The only one that should grow 40 miles south of Atl is a river birch and that's not a river birch. My first thought was also river birch, bu i just can tell from those pics. It has the look of one but i can't positively ID it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrel2 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Thanks for the responses! Yeah, bad pics but I have to get permission to get in close and can't find the folks home. Birch, I thought, had peeling bark, and this didn't peel. Not sheets of canoe bark anyway. It is ten years since I lived there and it has grown a good bit, so it is a big growing tree. The leaves are lighter on the bottom and when the wind blows they dance around and flip from back to front, and back, so it kind of shimmers in the afternoon sun. It also had sprouts that would come up from it's roots so there would be 30 or 40 little clones growing up all around it until you cut the grass and them with it. I rooted some of the sprouts when I moved but they didn't make it in the drought. I've looked all over the inner webs but can't find a great site full of pics for comparison. Best I can come up with is some kind of beech. The guy who used rent it to me, was heavy into Burpee catalogs and such and it could be some odd brand of tree from anywhere in the world. So I don't ask for help lightly. Thanks ya'll. Tony Edit: Ok, now I think it's an asexual cotton wood, as it didn't have the cotton the females have. And the non females propagate by root sprouts among other things. And this....".The leaf of the cottonwood is also a good identifying characteristic. They are bright green and have a broad triangular shape. The base of the leaf is relatively straight. Its edges are jagged and the tip of the leaf comes to a sharp point. Any breeze at all make the leaves twist and turn on their petiole (stem). Even on what appears to be a still day, the cottonwood leaves create a glimmering effect because of this phenomena." And they grow big fast. This pdf. says they can grow like this one has. At least 50 feet in 10 years. http://www.kshs.org/.../symb_jtree.pdf It's not a cottonwood. The bark is to smooth. It's a quaking aspen tree that someone planted. I realize they aren't native around here, but that's what it is...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 It's not a cottonwood. The bark is to smooth. It's a quaking aspen tree that someone planted. I realize they aren't native around here, but that's what it is...lol. Well, it didn't have fruit, flowers or catkins..but I guess it could be asexual like the cottonless cottonwood...genetic engineering to serve us I can see I'll have to catch the present owners home and get permission to pick some leaves and take a close up of the bark. At least I think it is narrowed down to the populus family of trees. Thanks again for the input! T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGTim Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Oh man I love trees. I plant them all the time. I've grown oaks from acorns as well. I had a similar problem with a grove of trees around my father in law's house. I couldn't identify it even using books. I think I finally settled on paper mulberry. Those trees also grow a lot of shoots up and spread as a group if you don't mow. One of the leaves in your picture looked like that, but I sort of doubt that is what it is, just musing. I think the bark is too light to be a paper mulberry. Do the leaves turn yellow in the fall and are they real fine leaves that disintegrate when the lay on the ground for a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 Hey, Tim. Yep, the leaves didn't stay around for long. Seemed like they got crumbly pretty quick. I know I didn't do any raking and bagging. Seems like I remember the leaves going yellow, or bleached out anyway. I seem to remember the leaves having more jagged edges like a cottonwood, but I don't remember the sharp point. The aspen leaves seem too rounded and less jagged. I guess I won't know until I can get close to it and pick some leaves. I tried to compare the leaves in a tree book I had back then, but couldn't match them to anything in the book, but like I say that was 10 years back, and it was a much smaller, younger tree. This thing has easily grown 50 to 70 feet since then. One thing is it didn't have blisters on the bark like the aspen seems to have, and I don't remember it looking like the deep rutted skin of a mature cottonwood I just found a pic of. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 from the little bark i could see it has Aspen like bark...is that what the entire bark is like, or on the older parts of the tree does the pseudo-paperlike bark turn to thick plating? could be a big tooth aspen...cotton woods have thick plating for bark especially on the older parts of the tree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 If you haven't figured it out, I could ask one of my Plant Biology professors at NC State, including the head of the department. I'm interested as well, but they might not even know for sure without closer pictures of the leaves or bark...the leaves are probably the most identifiable part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 need a closer pic of the leaves. It does look like from the beech tree family. Most silver beech tree don't have spots in the bark. Aspen is a real good choice but can tell what it is if leaves were closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 Yep, I'm going to try to get over that way tomorrow and see if I can catch them home. Can't see me going into someone's backyard and picking leaves from their tree without permission, lol. And I think this is going to take getting some leaves. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 need a closer pic of the leaves. It does look like from the beech tree family. Most silver beech tree don't have spots in the bark. Aspen is a real good choice but can tell what it is if leaves were closer I figured you'd be the one to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Yep, I'm going to try to get over that way tomorrow and see if I can catch them home. Can't see me going into someone's backyard and picking leaves from their tree without permission, lol. And I think this is going to take getting some leaves. Tony The tree isn't as big as I thought either. It may have grown 30 feet, but not much more. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inadumtn Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 bigtooth aspen? silver birch? Me thinks a bigtooth aspen, also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGTim Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Ok looks like we can close this one out ;-) Got it. White Poplar http://www.cirrusimage.com/tree_white_poplar.htm height 50-80ft invasive leaves simple alternate leaves white underside . trunk white gray smooth above, furrowed at base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclonicjunkie Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Ok looks like we can close this one out ;-) Got it. White Poplar http://www.cirrusima...hite_poplar.htm height 50-80ft invasive leaves simple alternate leaves white underside . trunk white gray smooth above, furrowed at base Good Job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanc2001 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Ok looks like we can close this one out ;-) Got it. White Poplar http://www.cirrusima...hite_poplar.htm height 50-80ft invasive leaves simple alternate leaves white underside . trunk white gray smooth above, furrowed at base yup, good job, first thoughts were silver birch until I saw the updated pics, we had one in our yard growing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Thanks, Tim! Sure fits the bill, down to the more rounded leaf end, and the white underside. I was having trouble with the aspen as it was more saw toothed on the leaves, and wasn't so sure about the cotton wood, as both have a sharper point at the leaf end. Thanks all! Now if ya'll could help me identify that girl I fell in love with at the 2nd Atlanta Pop Festival, I'd be a happy man in my old age, lol. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclonicjunkie Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Now if ya'll could help me identify that girl I fell in love with at the 2nd Atlanta Pop Festival, I'd be a happy man in my old age, lol. Tony Pic please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Ok looks like we can close this one out ;-) Got it. White Poplar http://www.cirrusima...hite_poplar.htm height 50-80ft invasive leaves simple alternate leaves white underside . trunk white gray smooth above, furrowed at base I too thought of Populus alba L. Here are some herbarium sheets of the species: http://www.ibiblio.org/pic/Tree_pages/Populus_alba.htm I emailed a professor of mine, we should have confirmation here shortly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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