blackjack123 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Its like none of you guys try to compare ratings and everything else. Your all just as much weenies as I am. You guys act you know just as much as anyone. It seems like all you guys are just as capable of rating a tornado just as much as NWS offices by the sounds of it. Also dont call me a weenie because I love the F-scale and EF-scale as much as anybody on this planet. You guys seem to get off on the rating system just as much as I do for you guys are posting things from surverys from NWS offices. Also I dont keep a chart of EF3-EF5 tornadoes under my user name either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Its like none of you guys try to compare ratings and everything else. Your all just as much weenies as I am. You guys act you know just as much as anyone. It seems like all you guys are just as capable of rating a tornado just as much as NWS offices by the sounds of it. Also dont call me a weenie because I love the F-scale and EF-scale as much as anybody on this planet. You guys seem to get off on the rating system just as much as I do for you guys are posting things from surverys from NWS offices. Also I dont keep a chart of EF3-EF5 tornadoes under my user name either. Stop posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack123 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Stop posting. As far as I am concerned who do you think you are to tell me how to base my thoughts and especially blackjacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Come on guys, can we stay on topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 This might sound funny coming from someone that worked on V2 both years, but I'm not all that optimistic that V2 or even a V3 would change anything that went on here all that much. Let's say we know exactly how tornadoes form. Ok, what's changed really? Maybe an extra few minutes lead time on warnings (but probably not since the main observing tool only samples a location every 300 sec)? I don't think warning time was the problem here. Even if you know everything there is to know about tornadoes, they're still chaotic and they still are being affected by small spatial and temporal scale changes in the environment that aren't going to be observed, even if you had a national mesonet. Everyone wants answers when something like this happens, which I totally get, but there's no easy answers here and very little guarantee that this won't happen again in the future. When do we get to the point where we can predict where tornadoes will hit exactly or to the point where we can disrupt a tornado's vortex thus the tornado never really forms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 No I am just saying if I was I would be very conservative before giving a tornado an EF5 rating. Let me get this straight, you've been whining for weeks now, that you can't understand why some tornadoes weren't rated higher then they were, sitting at your computer desk. Now you want them to be conservative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Re: Hackelburg.. BMX still says "EF3 or potentially higher" but their updated PNS indicates tornadic winds of at least 180 mph, or a mid/high-end EF4. Sounds like this is a good EF5 candidate in the coming days. TORNADO 2...HACKLEBURG TORNADO (MARION COUNTY) PRELIMINARY DATA... EVENT DATE: APRIL 27, 2011 EVENT TYPE: EF-3 TORNADO OR POTENTIALLY HIGHER (FURTHER EVALUATION UNDERWAY) ESTIMATED PEAK WINDS (MPH): AT LEAST 180 INJURIES/FATALITIES: AT LEAST 25 FATALITIES. NUMEROUS INJURIES. EVENT START LOCATION AND TIME: 34.0880/-88.1328 AT 305 PM EVENT END LOCATION AND TIME: 34.3109/-87.7858 AT 328 PM DAMAGE PATH LENGTH (IN MILES): 25.2 MILES IN MARION COUNTY DAMAGE WIDTH: 3/4 MILE NOTE: CONTINUED INTO THE TENNESSEE VALLEY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS SURVEYED DAMAGE ACROSS MARION COUNTY IMPACTING THE HACKLEBURG AREA. IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE DAMAGE WAS CONSISTENT WITH A VIOLENT TORNADO. WINDS WERE ESTIMATED AROUND 180 MPH. THE TORNADO APPEARED TO TOUCHDOWN SOUTHWEST OF HAMILTON NEAR HIGHWAY 19 AND COUNTY ROAD 22. TREE DAMAGE WAS NOTED IN THIS AREA. THE TORNADO WIDENED CONSIDERABLY AND BECAME DEADLY AS IT MOVED ALONG HIGHWAY 43 SOUTHWEST OF HACKLEBURG. THE TORNADO MOVED INTO HACKLEBURG WHERE SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS WERE DESTROYED. THE HACKLEBURG HIGH SCHOOL AND THE WRANGLER PLANT WERE DESTROYED. THE TORNADO MOVED NORTHEAST AND GENERALLY PARALLELED HIGHWAY 43 AND MOVED TOWARD PHIL CAMPBELL WHERE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE CONTINUED. ALONG THE DAMAGE PATH, THOUSANDS OF TREES WERE DOWNED... SEVERAL HUNDRED STRUCTURES WERE DAMAGED, AT LEAST 100 OF THESE STRUCTURES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED AS MANY HOMES WERE LEVELED. THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL EVALUATION DONE ON THE WORST DAMAGE POINTS IN THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS TO DETERMINE IF THE RATING NEEDS TO BE INCREASED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Its like none of you guys try to compare ratings and everything else. Your all just as much weenies as I am. You guys act you know just as much as anyone. It seems like all you guys are just as capable of rating a tornado just as much as NWS offices by the sounds of it. Also dont call me a weenie because I love the F-scale and EF-scale as much as anybody on this planet. You guys seem to get off on the rating system just as much as I do for you guys are posting things from surverys from NWS offices. Also I dont keep a chart of EF3-EF5 tornadoes under my user name either. Keep posting like this please, you'll get banned or 5 posted in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Glade Spring, VA Last I checked pretty rare for VA tornadoes to reach widths of 3/4 of a mile... PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN 334 PM EDT FRI APR 29 2011 /234 PM CDT FRI APR 29 2011/ ...AN EF-3 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN WASHINGTON COUNTY VA... A STORM SURVEY TEAM FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS COMPLETED AN ASSESSMENT OF THE DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED EARLY THURSDAY MORNING IN WASHINGTON COUNTY VIRGINIA...AROUND 115 AM EDT. THE TORNADO REACHED AN INTENSITY OF EF-3...WITH A MAXIMUM WIND SPEED OF 140 MPH. THE DAMAGE PATH BEGAN JUST SOUTH OF ABINGDON...AND EXTENDED NORTHEAST TO THE GLADE SPRINGS AREA. THE PATH LENGTH WAS 18 MILES LONG...AND THE WIDTH WAS THREE FOURTHS OF A MILE. THERE WERE 3 FATALITIES AND 50 INJURIES WITH THIS TORNADO. THE STORM SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED BY: ALAN REZEK, METEOROLOGIST IN CHARGE OF THE CHARLESTON WEST VIRGINIA NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE...AND METEOROLOGIST GARY GARNETT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Bledsoe Co TN.... haven't heard much about this tornado PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN 215 PM EDT FRI APR 29 2011 ...AN EF-3 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN BLEDSOE COUNTIES OF SOUTHEAST TENNESSEE... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MORRISTOWN HAS COMPLETED AN ASSESSMENT OF THE STORM DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED IN BLEDSOE COUNTY. THE TORNADO REACHED AN INTENSITY OF AN EF3...IN SOUTHERN BLEDSOE COUNTY...WITH A MAXIMUM WIND SPEED OF 140 MILES PER HOUR. THE TORNADO DESTROYED SEVEN HOMES IN BLEDSOE COUNTY. MANY TREES WERE DOWN AND BARNS BLOWN AWAY ALONG THE TRACK. THE TIME OF THE TORNADO WAS APPROXIMATELY 830 PM CDT. THE PATH WIDTH OF THIS TORNADO WAS UP TO ONE QUARTER MILE. THE TOTAL LENGTH OF ITS TRACK WAS 9 MILES. THE TORNADO STARTED IN THE PITTS GAP ROAD AREA WEST OF GRAYSVILLE AND TRAVELED NORTHEAST TO NEAR NEW HARMONY. PRELIMINARY REPORTS INDICATE...4 FATALITIES. THE STORM SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED BY: LARRY VANNOZZI, METEORLOGIST IN CHARGE NASHVILLE WEATHER FORECAST OFFICE. $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Tune into CNN or WHNT click here for link NWS BMX will be giving a press conference at 330pm CDT Created a dedicated thread for the press conference so we can keep discussion on-topic and relevant to the press conference. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/17906-330-cdt-birmingham-press-conference-429/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 ...Hamilton Co TN.. The Updated PNS ups the fatalities from 13 to 22... this matches the deadliest tornado from Super Tuesday. PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...CORRECTION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN 1045 PM EDT THU APR 28 2011 ...AN EF-4 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN HAMILTON, BRADLEY, AND POLK COUNTIES OF SOUTHEAST TENNESSEE... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MORRISTOWN HAS COMPLETED AN ASSESSMENT OF THE STORM DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED IN HAMILTON, BRADLEY, AND POLK COUNTIES. THE TORNADO REACHED AN INTENSITY OF A STRONG EF4...IN SOUTHEAST HAMILTON COUNTY...WITH A MAXIMUM WIND SPEED OF 190 MILES PER HOUR. THE TORNADO COMPLETELY LEVELED SEVERAL HOMES IN HAMILTON COUNTY, AND PRODUCED EXTENSIVE DAMAGE IN BRADLEY COUNTY BEFORE DISSIPATING IN POLK COUNTY. 150 HOMES WERE ESTIMATED TO HAVE DAMAGE IN HAMILTON, AND BRADLEY COUNTIES, WITH NUMEROUS TREES DOWN IN POLK COUNTY. THE PATH WIDTH OF THIS TORNADO WAS 800 YARDS OR...ROUGHLY ONE HALF MILE. THE TOTAL LENGTH OF ITS TRACK WAS 35 MILES. PRELIMINARY REPORTS INDICATE...22 FATALITIES, 13 IN HAMILTON COUNTY, AND 9 IN BRADLEY COUNTY. OVER 100 PEOPLE WERE INJURED IN HAMILTON COUNTY, AND 89 INJURED IN BRADLEY COUNTY. THE STORM SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED BY: TIM TROUTMAN, WARNING COORDINATION METEOROLOGIST, AND METEOROLOGIST ERIC HOLWEG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowahawkeyedave Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 When do we get to the point where we can predict where tornadoes will hit exactly or to the point where we can disrupt a tornado's vortex thus the tornado never really forms? I'm not even sure that's possible or will ever be. The amount of force to counteract a tornado's vortex is enormous, and not only that that same amount of force would have to be applied throughout the rotating column which would extend very high in the atmosphere. That's just on the mesoscale level too and would only stop one storm. In order to prevent a tornado outbreak you'd have to try doing this on the synoptic scale level, which is even more difficult if not impossible. Not to mention the costs involved with it and logistics of getting into the exact right place. As far as getting to the point where we can predict where tornadoes will hit exactly. A lot of warnings are already issued before tornadoes even touch down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Jackson confirms an EF4 tornado in Smith, Jasper, and Clarke counties. They haven't build the detailed page for it yet. http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jan/?n=2011_04_25_27_svr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFanatica Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 When do we get to the point where we can predict where tornadoes will hit exactly or to the point where we can disrupt a tornado's vortex thus the tornado never really forms? probably never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 162 NOUS44 KJAN 292129 PNSJAN PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS 429 PM CDT FRI APR 29 2011 ..TORNADO STORM SURVEY INFORMATION NEWTON COUNTY 4/27/2011 COUNTY/PARISH: NEWTON BEGINNING POINT: 2 S NEWTON AT 508 PM ENDING POINT: 2 N HICKORY AT 522 PM RATING: EF-3 MAX ESTIMATED WINDS 145 MPH PATH LENGTH: 11 MILES MAXIMUM WIDTH: 0.25 MILE SUMMARY OF DAMAGE: THIS TORNADO STARTED JUST SOUTH OF NEWTON ON HIGHWAY 15 NEAR THE SOUTH MAIN INTERSECTION. THERE WAS MAJOR TREE DAMAGE HERE...AND AMAZINGLY...THE NORTH END OF THE CONCRETE BRIDGE WAS LIFTED UP CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE CONCRETE SIDES...GUARD RAILS...AND ASPHALT. THE TORNADO THEN TRAVELLED ENE WITH MORE DAMAGE TO TREES AND SEVERAL HOMES. ONE MOBILE HOME AND TWO WOOD FRAME HOUSES WERE DESTROYED ON CORINTH ROAD. IT THEN CONTINUED ENE CROSSING HWY 80 SEVERELY DAMAGING THE ROOFS OF TWO HOMES AND ALSO DESTROYING A TRAVEL TRAILER. IT PROCEEDED ENE AND DISSIPATED JUST SOUTH OF I-20. JAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Got this from NCAR. It's the track of the Tuscaloosa tornado. The cell persisted for 8 hrs and traveled 450 miles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 From NOAA...rotation tracks for April 27-28, 2011... http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/april_2011_tornado_information.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneJosh Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 probably never Nor should we try. I dislike this need that people have to play God, this assumption that we should completely control everything-- even natural processes-- happening around us. This is the Earth, and these are its processes for regulating itself. If you don't like it, don't live on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Nor should we try. I dislike this need that people have to play God, this assumption that we should completely control everything-- even natural processes-- happening around us. This is the Earth, and these are its processes for regulating itself. If you don't like it, don't live on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 NBC just aired images from Google Earth of the Tuscaloosa area after the twister. Fooking unbelievable. You can see the path it took not only because of the damage but because of all the vegetation is gone, leaving bare brown earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Nor should we try. I dislike this need that people have to play God, this assumption that we should completely control everything-- even natural processes-- happening around us. This is the Earth, and these are its processes for regulating itself. If you don't like it, don't live on Earth. Are you saying that a tornado with 200+ mph hour winds is a way of the earth regulating itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outflow Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Are you saying that a tornado with 200+ mph hour winds is a way of the earth regulating itself? what else would it be? Nature just doesn't doing something for the hell of it, everything occurs for a reason, weather we know why or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Are you saying that a tornado with 200+ mph hour winds is a way of the earth regulating itself? Is there an alternative explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowahawkeyedave Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Are you saying that a tornado with 200+ mph hour winds is a way of the earth regulating itself? How else would you explain it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 If by some miracle there was a wether station that recorded a direct hit from a large tornado without being destroyed the obs would be intersting. Probaby at least an 80mb spike on the EF5sfrom the couple of studies I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isopycnic Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 ..PRELIMINARY RARE EF-5 TORNADO IN MONROE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI[cut] AN 1965 CHEVY PICKUP TRUCK PARKED IN FRONT ONE OF THE DESTROYED HOMES HAS NOT BEEN FOUND. ALL APPLIANCES AND PLUMBING FIXTURES IN THE MOST EXTREME DAMAGE PATH SHREDDED OR MISSING. jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Maybe chaos theory applies here. Don't know about tornadoes, but I have read that a function of hurricanes is to help distribute heat from the equator poleward. Nature will be nature. But this is getting OT for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 7 confirmed by LWX so far 000 NOUS41 KLWX 292057 PNSLWX DCZ001-MDZ003>007-009>011-013-014-016>018-501-502-VAZ025>031- 036>040-042-050>057-501>504-WVZ050>053-055-501>506-300900- DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA-WASHINGTON-FREDERICK MD-CARROLL- NORTHERN BALTIMORE-HARFORD-MONTGOMERY-HOWARD-SOUTHERN BALTIMORE- PRINCE GEORGES-ANNE ARUNDEL-CHARLES-ST. MARYS-CALVERT- EXTREME WESTERN ALLEGANY-CENTRAL AND EASTERN ALLEGANY-AUGUSTA- ROCKINGHAM-SHENANDOAH-FREDERICK VA-PAGE-WARREN-CLARKE-NELSON- ALBEMARLE-GREENE-MADISON-RAPPAHANNOCK-LOUDOUN-ORANGE-CULPEPER- PRINCE WILLIAM/MANASSAS/MANASSAS PARK-FAIRFAX- ARLINGTON/FALLS CHURCH/ALEXANDRIA-STAFFORD-SPOTSYLVANIA- KING GEORGE-NORTHERN FAUQUIER-SOUTHERN FAUQUIER-WESTERN HIGHLAND- EASTERN HIGHLAND-HAMPSHIRE-MORGAN-BERKELEY-JEFFERSON-HARDY- WESTERN GRANT-EASTERN GRANT-WESTERN MINERAL-EASTERN MINERAL- WESTERN PENDLETON-EASTERN PENDLETON- PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC 457 PM EDT FRI APR 29 2011 ...SEVEN TORNADOES DURING APRIL 27 AND 28TH ARE CONFIRMED... ...ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATIONS CONTINUE... ...EF-0 TORNADO CONFIRMED NEAR CAMP SPRINGS MD... LOCATION...ANDREWS AFB AND CAMP SPRINGS IN PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY MD DATE...APRIL 27 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...7:16 PM TO 7:17 PM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF-0 MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...70 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...100 YARDS LENGTH...0.8 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...38.810N / 76.902W ENDING LAT/LON...38.813N / 76.889W * FATALITIES...NONE * INJURIES...NONE * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... A GROUND SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE...TOGETHER WITH RADAR AND EYEWITNESS REPORTS DETERMINED THAT AN EF-0 TORNADO TRACKED BRIEFLY FROM A WOODED AREA JUST SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF AUTH ROAD AND ALLENTOWN ROAD ONTO ANDREWS AIR FORCE BASE. NUMEROUS TREES WERE UPROOTED AND SNAPPED. THE TORNADO ALSO PRODUCED SOME ROOFING AND SIDING DAMAGE. && ...EF-0 TORNADO CONFIRMED JUST WEST OF MANASSAS VIRGINIA... LOCATION...BRISTOW IN PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY VIRGINIA DATE...APRIL 27 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...10:57 PM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF-0 MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...80 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...75 YARDS LENGTH...0.5 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...38.728N / 77.549W ENDING LAT/LON...38.735N / 77.548W * FATALITIES...NONE * INJURIES...NONE * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... A GROUND SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE...TOGETHER WITH RADAR INFORMATION DETERMINED THAT AN EF-0 TORNADO TRACKED BRIEFLY THROUGH BRISTOW VIRGINIA JUST WEST OF THE CITY OF MANASSAS. THE TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN IN THE NEW BRISTOW VILLAGE COMMUNITY CREATING ROOFING AND SIDING DAMAGE TO HOMES. THE TORNADO PROCEEDED NORTH ACROSS A SHOPPING CENTER PARKING AREA DAMAGING A FENCE...SOME SIGNS...AND SMALL TREES. THE FINAL DAMAGE OCCURRED AS THE TORNADO CROSSED LINTON HALL ROAD AND SNAPPED A FEW TREES AS IT LIFTED OFF THE GROUND. && ...EF-2 TORNADO TRAVELS OVER 30 MILES IN THE SHENANDOAH VALLEY OF VA... LOCATION...FULKS RUN TO ST LUKE VIRGINIA IN ROCKINGHAM/SHENANDOAH COUNTIES DATE...APRIL 28 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...2:12 AM TO 2:35 AM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF-2 MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...130 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...400 YARDS LENGTH...33.2 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...38.654N / 78.962W ENDING LAT/LON...38.959N / 78.478W * FATALITIES...NONE * INJURIES...TWO * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... A GROUND SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE...TOGETHER WITH RADAR AND EYEWITNESS REPORTS DETERMINED THAT A TORNADO WITH PEAK WINDS OF 130 MPH TRACKED FOR OVER 30 MILES ACROSS THE NORTHERN SHENANDOAH VALLEY OF VIRGINIA. THE TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN NEAR FULKS RUN VIRGINIA ALONG THE NORTH FORK OF THE SHENANDOAH RIVER AND CREATED NEARLY CONTINUOUS DAMAGE ON ITS 33 MILE NORTHEAST PATH...NOT LIFTING UNTIL IT GOT TO ST LUKE VIRGINIA JUST WEST OF WOODSTOCK. ALONG ITS PATH...THE TORNADO TORE OF ROOFS FROM BARNS AND HOMES... SNAPPED AND UPROOTED HUNDREDS OF TREES... DECIMATED A MOBILE HOME... PICKED UP A HALF TON PIECE OF INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT AND TOSSED IT 200 YARDS... AND DESTROYED NUMEROUS SHEDS. THE WORST OF THE DAMAGE WAS JUST EAST OF ORKNEY SPRINGS...BASYE...AND BRYCE RESORT. STARTING IN A REMOTE AREA...AND THEN MOVING ACROSS ROUTE 263 INTO THE FORESTED SKI AND HUNT CLUB SUBDIVISION...AND THEN INTO A FARMING COMMUNITY... THE TORNADO SNAPPED AND UPROOTED MOST OF THE LARGE TREES IN THE FOREST WITHIN ITS PATH. IT THEN LEVELED AN ENTIRE AGRICULTURAL CHICKEN BUILDING DOWN TO THE FOUNDATION...DAMAGED OTHERS... FLIPPED A PICKUP TRUCK ON ITS SIDE AND THREW SEVERAL TRAILERS. TWO INJURIES WERE REPORTED...A 82 YEAR OLD FEMALE FROM FLYING DEBRIS AND A 26 YEAR OLD WOMAN WITH MINOR INJURIES FROM FALLING WHILE ESCAPING. && ...EF-1 TORNADO CONFIRMED NEAR STAUNTON VIRGINIA... LOCATION...CHURCHVILLE IN AUGUSTA COUNTY VA DATE...APRIL 28 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...2:31 AM TO 2:36 AM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF-1 MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...100 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...150 YARDS LENGTH...4.0 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...38.179N / 79.215W ENDING LAT/LON...38.225N / 79.170W * FATALITIES...NONE * INJURIES...NONE * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... A GROUND SURVEY CONDUCTED BY AUGUSTA COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE...TOGETHER WITH RADAR AND EYEWITNESS REPORTS DETERMINED THAT AN EF-1 TORNADO TRACKED FROM CHRISTIAN TO CHURCHVILLE VIRGINIA...5 MILES NORTHWEST OF STAUNTON. THE TORNADO SNAPPED AND UPROOTED NUMEROUS LARGE TREES. DAMAGED SEVERAL HOMES. REMOVED ROOFING ON MULTIPLE RESIDENCES AND DESTROYED SEVERAL OUT BUILDINGS. && ...EF-1 TORNADO CONFIRMED JUST NORTH OF HARRISONBURG VIRGINIA... LOCATION...LINVILLE IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY VA DATE...APRIL 28 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...3:01 AM TO 3:02 AM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF-1 MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...90 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...50 YARDS LENGTH...0.9 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...38.502N / 78.838W ENDING LAT/LON...38.511N / 78.827W * FATALITIES...NONE * INJURIES...NONE * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... A GROUND SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE...TOGETHER WITH RADAR AND EYEWITNESS REPORTS DETERMINED THAT AN EF-1 TORNADO TRACKED OVER A RURAL AREA NEAR LINVILLE VIRGINIA. OVER A TRACK THAT WAS NEARLY A MILE LONG...THE TORNADO UPROOTED AND SNAPPED NUMEROUS LARGE TREES ALONG A HORSE FARM AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE TORNADO CROSSED IRISH PATH... INDIAN RIDGE LANE... AND MELROSE ROAD. && ...EF-1 TORNADO CONFIRMED JUST SOUTHEAST OF HARRISONBURG VIRGINIA... LOCATION...KEEZLETOWN IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY VA DATE...APRIL 28 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...3:56 AM TO 3:58 AM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF-1 MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...90 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...150 YARDS LENGTH...1.8 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...38.399N / 78.856W ENDING LAT/LON...38.416N / 78.832W * FATALITIES...NONE * INJURIES...NONE * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... A GROUND SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE...TOGETHER WITH RADAR AND EYEWITNESS REPORTS DETERMINED THAT AN EF-1 TORNADO TRACKED JUST SOUTHEAST OF THE CITY OF HARRISONBURG ALONG BOYER ROAD. THE TORNADO UPROOTED AND SNAPPED NUMEROUS LARGE TREES... UPROOTED MOST OF A PERSONAL APPLE ORCHARD...CAUSED STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO TWO HOMES BY LIFTING THEIR ROOFS...DAMAGED TWO BARN ROOFS...AND KNOCKED DOWN GRAVESTONES WITHIN PROPERTIES ALONG BOYER ROAD. THE STORM CROSSED US ROUTE 33 AND LIFTED WHEN IT REACHED THE RIDGE ADJACENT TO IT. && ...EF-1 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN BRETON BAY MARYLAND... LOCATION...BRENTON BAY IN SAINT MARYS COUNTY MD DATE...APRIL 28 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...11:20 AM TO 11:23 AM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF-1 MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...90 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...50 YARDS LENGTH...3.3 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...38.263N / 76.666W ENDING LAT/LON...38.294N / 76.618W * FATALITIES...NONE * INJURIES...NONE * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... A GROUND SURVEY CONDUCTED BY SAINT MARYS COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE...TOGETHER WITH RADAR AND EYEWITNESS REPORTS DETERMINED THAT AN EF-1 TORNADO TRACKED ACROSS BRETON BAY IN SAINT MARYS COUNTY MARYLAND. THE TORNADO SNAPPED AND UPROOTED NUMEROUS LARGE TREES AND CAUSED SOME HOME ROOFING AND SIDING DAMAGE. IT ALSO BLEW A CINDER BLOCK WALL OUT FROM A STORAGE SHED AND DAMAGED ITS ROOF. THE TORNADO PASSED OVER CAMP CALVERT. $$ NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE/WASHINGTON FORECAST OFFICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFanatica Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Maybe chaos theory applies here. Don't know about tornadoes, but I have read that a function of hurricanes is to help distribute heat from the equator poleward. Nature will be nature. But this is getting OT for this thread. Here's a good discussion of the subject: http://www.flame.org/~cdoswell/SuptorRoles/SuptorRoles.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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