tornadotony Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 047 NOUS44 KJAN 290220 CCA PNSJAN PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...CORRECTED TIME FOR SMITH COUNTY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS 920 PM CDT THU APR 28 2011 ..PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY INFORMATION TEAMS REMAIN OUT SURVEYING STORM DAMAGE AND ADDITIONAL UPDATES WILL BE ISSUED WHEN INFORMATION COMES IN. COUNTY: COPIAH/HINDS BEGINNING POINT: 5 NW CRYSTAL SPRINGS AT 311 PM ENDING POINT: 2 SSW TERRY AT 324 PM RATING: EF-2 MAX ESTIMATED WINDS 115 MPH PATH LENGTH: 7 MI MAXIMUM WIDTH: 1/4 MILE INJURIES: 2 SUMMARY OF DAMAGE: THIS TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN JUST W OF GALLITON RD AND TRACKED NE ACROSS HWY 27...MITCHEL LN AND MITCHEL RD...INTO HINDS CO WHERE IT CROSSED HALEY RD THEN MIDWAY RD AT THE INTERSECTION OF HALEY RD BEFORE CROSSING I-55 AND DISSIPATING JUST EAST OF CHERRY GROVE RD. THE MOST INTENSE DAMAGE WAS AROUND MITCHEL LN/RDS WHERE ONE WOOD FRAMED HOME WAS PUSHED OFF THE FOUNDATION AND DESTROYED. ANOTHER WOOD FRAMED HOME WAS PUSHED OFF THE FOUNDATION. 3 TO 4 MOBILE HOMES WERE HEAVILY DAMAGED AS THEY WERE PUSHED OFF THE FOUNDATIONS. IN HINDS CO...A WELL BUILT HOME HAD A LARGE SECTION OF THE ROOF REMOVED AND CARPORT WAS BLOWN APART. MAJOR TREE DAMAGE OCCURRED ALONG THE PATH...ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE 3 MILES OF HEAVIEST DAMAGE. COUNTY: SMITH BEGINNING POINT: 3.6 S POLKVILLE AT 427 PM ENDING POINT: 2.6 N BURNS AT 438 PM RATING: EF-3 MAX ESTIMATED WINDS 130 MPH PATH LENGTH: 8.2 MI MAXIMUM WIDTH: 1/4 MILE INJURIES: 0 SUMMARY OF DAMAGE: THE TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN NEAR COUNTY ROAD 131 TO THE SOUTH OF POLKVILLE...CAUSING TREE DAMAGE. IT ALSO CAUSED TWO MOBILE HOMES TO MOVE OFF THEIR FOUNDATION. THE TORNADO TRACKED TO THE NORTHEAST AND CAUSED MAJOR TREE DAMAGE ALONG COUNTY ROAD 559 TO THE EAST OF TRENTON. TWO CHICKEN HOMES WERE DESTROYED...A MOBILE HOME WAS DESTROYED...A HOME HAD ROOF DAMAGE. AN 18 WHEELER CAB AND TRAILER WAS ALSO THROWN ABOUT 300 YARDS. JAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 533 NOUS44 KHUN 290319 PNSHUN ALZ001>010-016-TNZ076-096-097-291530- PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HUNTSVILLE AL 1019 PM CDT THU APR 28 2011 ...PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY INFORMATION FROM FRANKLIN COUNTY ALABAMA... AN ADDITIONAL PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY OF DAMAGE INCURRED ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL FRANKLIN COUNTY ALABAMA HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL. INITIAL FINDINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS: * EVENT TYPE: TORNADO * EVENT DATE: 04/27/11 * ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 120 MPH * PRELIMINARY RATING: EF-2 * PATH LENGTH: 2 MILES /IN FRANKLIN COUNTY/ * MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH: 150 YARDS * SUMMARY: A TORNADO MOVED INTO SOUTH CENTRAL FRANKLIN COUNTY ALONG ALABAMA HIGHWAY 187 SOUTH OF THE HODGES COMMUNITY. /FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE TORNADO IMPACT IN MARION COUNTY...PLEASE CONSULT STATEMENTS ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BIRMINGHAM./ THE TORNADO SNAPPED SEVERAL TREES AS IT MOVED INTO THE COUNTY... THEN COLLAPSED TWO CHICKEN HOUSES...AND TORE ROOFING MATERIAL OFF TWO OTHERS NEARBY. AS THE TORNADO APPROACHED ALABAMA HIGHWAY 172... IT TORE MUCH OF THE ROOF OFF OF A WELL BUILT HOME AND TOSSED DEBRIS CLOSE TO 100 YARDS. THE TORNADO SNAPPED NUMEROUS TREES AFTER CROSSING THE HIGHWAY. DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS...THE SURVEY TEAM WAS NOT ABLE TO GET A PRECISE ENDING POINT FOR THE TORNADO. IT DID NOT CROSS HIGHWAY 187 A SECOND TIME OR ACTUALLY ENTER THE HODGES COMMUNITY...SO A PRELIMARY PATH LENGTH FOR THE FRANKLIN COUNTY PORTION OF THE TORNADO IS SET AT 2 MILES. THESE FINDINGS ARE PRELIMINARY AND ARE SUBJECT TO ADJUSTMENT. FURTHER DETAILS...SUCH AS TIMING...WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION. INFORMATION REGARDING THIS SURVEY WILL BE PLACED ON THE NWS HUNTSVILLE INTERNET PAGE ONCE ACCESS HAS BEEN RESTORED. SURVEYED BY: CARCIONE/LATIMER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Posted in the SE forum PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC 1113 PM EDT THU APR 28 2011 ...TORNADO CONFIRMED BETWEEN LAKE BURTON AND MOUNTAIN CITY IN RABUN COUNTY GEORGIA... LOCATION...LAKE BURTON TO MOUNTAIN CITY IN RABUN COUNTY GEORGIA DATE...APRIL 27 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...11 PM TO 1135 PM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF3 ESTIMATED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...165 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...1/2 MILE PATH LENGTH...14 MILES * FATALITIES...1 KNOWN * INJURIES...UNKNOWN * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC HAS CONFIRMED A TORNADO FROM LAKE BURTON TO MOUNTAIN CITY IN RABUN COUNTY GEORGIA ON APRIL 27 2011. THE TORNADO STARTED AT LAKE BURTON CAUSING EF3 DAMAGE ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE LAKE (POSSIBLY HIGHER PENDING WEATHER SERVICE HEADQUARTERS EVALUATION). THE TORNADO STARTED NEAR THE LAPRADES MARINA OFF OF HIGHWAY 197 AROUND 11 PM. SHORTLY AFTER TOUCHDOWN THE TORNADO HIT THE WILDCAT VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE OLD FIRE HOUSE BUILDING...BOTH BUILDINGS WERE TOTALLY DESTROYED. THE TORNADO TRACKED ACROSS MOCCASIN CREEK AND INTENSIFIED SIGNIFICANTLY. THE DAMAGE PATH ALONG MOCCASIN CREEK WAS A HALF MILE WIDE...TWO TO THREE WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WERE TOTALLY DESTROYED. ONE LARGE HOME WAS TRANSPORTED FROM IT/S SLAB FOUNDATION INTO THE LAKE. THE TORNADO CONTINUED ACROSS THE MOCCASIN CREEK PENINSULA TO THE BURTON ISLAND TIMPSON CREEK ROAD AREA...THEN TRACKED DOWN THE NORTH SHORE OF THE LAKE PARALLEL TO MEETING HOUSE MOUNTAIN ROAD. FOUR TO FIVE RESIDENCES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED WITH MULTIPLE HOMES WITH MAJOR DAMAGE TO EXTERIOR WALLS. THE TORNADO MOVED JUST NORTH OF THE ANCHORAGE MARINA NEAR HIGHWAY 76 AND CONTINUED UP A RIDGELINE NORTHEAST OF THE LAKE. THE TORNADO WEAKENED TO EF1 ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE LAKE. THE PATH REMAINED ALONG AND NORTH HIGHWAY 76...REACHING THE BLACK ROCK MOUNTAIN STATE PARK AT 1133 PM EDT. WIDESPREAD TREE DAMAGE OCCURRED ACROSS THE STATE PARK...INCLUDING A COUPLE OF TREES DOWN ON VEHICLES. THE TORNADO INTENSIFIED TO AN EF2 ACROSS A RESIDENTIAL AREA BETWEEN THE STATE PARK AND HIGHWAY 441 AROUND 1135 PM. THE DAMAGE PATH RANGED FROM 50 TO 75 YARDS. A CONDOMINIUM BUILDING HAD HALF OF THE ROOF BLOWN OFF WITH SEVERAL SURROUNDING HOMES WITH LIFTED ROOF PANELS AND STRIPPED SHINGLES. THE TORNADO PROCEEDED ACROSS HIGH 441 NEAR MOUNTAIN CITY AND WAS LOST IN A FORESTED AREA ON OAKEY MOUNTAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 550 NOUS44 KMOB 290249 PNSMOB ALZ051>064-FLZ001>006-MSZ067-075-076-078-079-300000- PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL 948 PM CDT THU APR 28 2011 ...NWS DAMAGE SURVEY TEAM FINDS EF-3 TORNADO TRACK ACROSS NORTHERN CHOCTAW COUNTY ALABAMA... EVENT OCCURRED THE EVENING OF APRIL 27, 2011 * EVENT LOCATION: FROM 4 MI SW OF YANTLEY, AL TO NEAR OAKCHIA, AL * STORM CLASSIFICATION: EF-3 INTENSITY TORNADO (MAX WINDS: 150 MPH) * BEGINNING LAT/LON: 32.216N / -88.432W * ENDING LAT/LON: 32.308N / -87.978W * PATH LENGTH: 27.3 MILES * MAXIMUM WIDTH: 1000 YARDS * NOTES: THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SURVEY TEAM FOUND EVIDENCE THAT THE TORNADO WAS ALREADY ON THE GROUND AS IT MOVED OUT OF EXTREME NORTHEASTERN CLARKE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI INTO NORTHERN CHOCTAW COUNTY APPROXIMATELY 4 MILES TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE COMMUNITY OF YANTLEY. THE TORNADO THEN REMAINED ON THE GROUND AS IT MOVED EAST ACROSS THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF EXTREME NORTHERN CHOCTAW COUNTY...BEFORE EXITING THE COUNTY BY CROSSING THE TOMBIGBEE RIVER NEAR THE COMMUNITY OF OAKCHIA. THE TORNADO NEARLY PARALLELED COUNTY ROAD 32 AS IT MOVED EAST ACROSS THE COUNTY...PRODUCING EF-2 AND SPORADIC EF-3 DAMAGE ALONG IT'S PATH. CONSIDERABLE TREE DAMAGE WAS NOTED ALONG THE ENTIRE PATH...WITH MANY TREES SNAPPED OFF ABOVE GROUND LEVEL AND SOME TREES COMPLETELY UP ROOTED. EXTENSIVE DAMAGE TO HOMES AND OTHER STRUCTURES WAS ALSO NOTED...WITH EF-3 DAMAGE TO ONE HOME THAT HAD IT'S ROOF TAKEN OFF AND EXTERIOR WALLS COLLAPSED. SEVERAL MOBILE HOMES ALONG THE PATH OF THE TORNADO WERE ALSO COMPLETELY DESTROYED. SHEPHERD/GARMON/CACERES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearpass Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BINGHAMTON, NY 1011 PM EDT THU APR 28 2011 ...EF2 TORNADO CONFIRMED NEAR ERIN IN CHEMUNG COUNTY NEW YORK... LOCATION...ERIN IN CHEMUNG COUNTY NEW YORK DATE...APRIL 28 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...1:25 AM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF2 ESTIMATED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...130 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...0.25 MILES PATH LENGTH...0.7 MILES BEGINNING LAT/LON...42.18N / -76.70W ENDING LAT/LON...42.19N / -76.69W * FATALITIES...0 * INJURIES...0 * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BINGHAMTON, NY HAS CONFIRMED AN EF2 TORNADO NEAR ERIN IN CHEMUNG COUNTY NEW YORK ON APRIL 28 2011. THE TORNADO STARTED JUST WEST OF THE ERIN TOWN HALL SOUTH OF ROUTE 223. IT BEGAN JUST SOUTHWEST OF THE LOCAL CEMETERY AND TRACKED TOWARD THE NORTHEAST. NUMEROUS PINE TREES WERE SNAPPED OFF AND UPROOTED IN THE CEMETERY. IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE CEMETERY A WELL-CONSTRUCTED BARN WAS DESTROYED WITH ALL FOUR WALLS COMPLETELY COLLAPSED. THE TORNADO TRACKED NORTHEAST AND ACROSS ROUTE 223. THE TORNADO LOFTED DEBRIS INTO THE YARD ACROSS THE STREET WITH DEBRIS FROM THE DESTROYED BARN IMPALED INTO THE FRONT LAWN. DEBRIS ALSO BLEW ALL WINDOWS OUT OF THE FRONT OF THE HOME WITH SOME DEBRIS PENETRATING THE SIDING AND THROWN INTO THE HOME. AT THIS SITE...ALL THREE VEHICLES WERE DAMAGED WITH A BEAM FROM THE DESTROYED BARN IMPALED THROUGH THE DASHBOARD OF ONE VEHICLE. AN 11,000 POUND CAMPER WAS FLIPPED UP OVER A FIVE FOOT FENCE AND TOPPLED ONTO ITS SIDE BEFORE COMING TO REST. THE TORNADO CONTINUED TRACKING TO THE NORTHEAST WITH DAMAGE TO A BARN ROOF AND DEBRIS WRAPPED IN TREES. A GARAGE AND MOBILE HOME AT THE SITE WAS COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED. HEAVY DEBRIS FROM THE MOBILE HOME WAS STREWN APPROXIMATELY 100 YARDS DOWNSTREAM FROM THE SITE...WITH LIGHTER MATERIAL FOUND SEVERAL MILES AWAY. THE TORNADO TRACKED AN ADDITIONAL ONE-HALF MILE UP THE HILL WITH NUMEROUS TREES UPROOTED OR SNAPPED AND TWO HORSES KILLED ON THE FARM. AT THIS POINT THE TORNADO LIFTED AND NO ADDITIONAL DAMAGE WAS FOUND. THIS INFORMATION CAN ALSO BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE AT WEATHER.GOV/BGM. FOR REFERENCE...THE ENHANCED FUJITA SCALE CLASSIFIES TORNADOES INTO THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES: EF0...WIND SPEEDS 65 TO 85 MPH. EF1...WIND SPEEDS 86 TO 110 MPH. EF2...WIND SPEEDS 111 TO 135 MPH. EF3...WIND SPEEDS 136 TO 165 MPH. EF4...WIND SPEEDS 166 TO 200 MPH. EF5...WIND SPEEDS GREATER THAN 200 MPH. THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND OUR APPRECIATION TO LOCAL OFFICIALS...LOCAL MEDIA AND ESPECIALLY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS FOR HELP DURING THIS SURVEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack123 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Posted in the SE forum PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC 1113 PM EDT THU APR 28 2011 ...TORNADO CONFIRMED BETWEEN LAKE BURTON AND MOUNTAIN CITY IN RABUN COUNTY GEORGIA... LOCATION...LAKE BURTON TO MOUNTAIN CITY IN RABUN COUNTY GEORGIA DATE...APRIL 27 2011 ESTIMATED TIME...11 PM TO 1135 PM EDT MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF3 ESTIMATED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...165 MPH MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH...1/2 MILE PATH LENGTH...14 MILES * FATALITIES...1 KNOWN * INJURIES...UNKNOWN * THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM DATA. ...SUMMARY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC HAS CONFIRMED A TORNADO FROM LAKE BURTON TO MOUNTAIN CITY IN RABUN COUNTY GEORGIA ON APRIL 27 2011. THE TORNADO STARTED AT LAKE BURTON CAUSING EF3 DAMAGE ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE LAKE (POSSIBLY HIGHER PENDING WEATHER SERVICE HEADQUARTERS EVALUATION). THE TORNADO STARTED NEAR THE LAPRADES MARINA OFF OF HIGHWAY 197 AROUND 11 PM. SHORTLY AFTER TOUCHDOWN THE TORNADO HIT THE WILDCAT VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE OLD FIRE HOUSE BUILDING...BOTH BUILDINGS WERE TOTALLY DESTROYED. THE TORNADO TRACKED ACROSS MOCCASIN CREEK AND INTENSIFIED SIGNIFICANTLY. THE DAMAGE PATH ALONG MOCCASIN CREEK WAS A HALF MILE WIDE...TWO TO THREE WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WERE TOTALLY DESTROYED. ONE LARGE HOME WAS TRANSPORTED FROM IT/S SLAB FOUNDATION INTO THE LAKE. THE TORNADO CONTINUED ACROSS THE MOCCASIN CREEK PENINSULA TO THE BURTON ISLAND TIMPSON CREEK ROAD AREA...THEN TRACKED DOWN THE NORTH SHORE OF THE LAKE PARALLEL TO MEETING HOUSE MOUNTAIN ROAD. FOUR TO FIVE RESIDENCES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED WITH MULTIPLE HOMES WITH MAJOR DAMAGE TO EXTERIOR WALLS. THE TORNADO MOVED JUST NORTH OF THE ANCHORAGE MARINA NEAR HIGHWAY 76 AND CONTINUED UP A RIDGELINE NORTHEAST OF THE LAKE. THE TORNADO WEAKENED TO EF1 ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE LAKE. THE PATH REMAINED ALONG AND NORTH HIGHWAY 76...REACHING THE BLACK ROCK MOUNTAIN STATE PARK AT 1133 PM EDT. WIDESPREAD TREE DAMAGE OCCURRED ACROSS THE STATE PARK...INCLUDING A COUPLE OF TREES DOWN ON VEHICLES. THE TORNADO INTENSIFIED TO AN EF2 ACROSS A RESIDENTIAL AREA BETWEEN THE STATE PARK AND HIGHWAY 441 AROUND 1135 PM. THE DAMAGE PATH RANGED FROM 50 TO 75 YARDS. A CONDOMINIUM BUILDING HAD HALF OF THE ROOF BLOWN OFF WITH SEVERAL SURROUNDING HOMES WITH LIFTED ROOF PANELS AND STRIPPED SHINGLES. THE TORNADO PROCEEDED ACROSS HIGH 441 NEAR MOUNTAIN CITY AND WAS LOST IN A FORESTED AREA ON OAKEY MOUNTAIN. That tornado might get upgraded. It sounds like low-end EF4 damage. We will find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack123 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 090 NOUS44 KHUN 290234 PNSHUN ALZ001>010-016-TNZ076-096-097-291445- PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HUNTSVILLE AL 934 PM CDT THU APR 28 2011 ...PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY INFORMATION FROM FRANKLIN COUNTY ALABAMA... A PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY OF THE DAMAGE INCURRED ACROSS FRANKLIN COUNTY ALABAMA HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND FRANKLIN COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL. INITIAL FINDINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS: * EVENT TYPE: TORNADO * EVENT DATE: 04/27/2011 * ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 175 MPH * PRELIMINARY RATING: EF-4 * PRELIMINARY PATH LENGTH: 12 MILES (EXPECTED TO INCREASE) * MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH: 1/2 MILE * FATALITIES: AT LEAST 20...EXACT NUMBER UNKNOWN * INJURIES: UNKNOWN * SUMMARY: FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS SURVEY, THE PATH BEGAN AT THE SOUTHERN FRANKLIN COUNTY LINE WITH MARION COUNTY NEAR HACKLEBURG. FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE TORNADO PATH IN MARION COUNTY...CONSULT INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BIRMINGHAM. THE SURVEY TEAM TRAVELED THROUGH PHIL CAMPBELL AND WITNESSED CONTINUOUS SIGNIFICANT DEVASTATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE MOST PROLIFIC DAMAGE OCCURRED FROM THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 51 AND ALABAMA HIGHWAY 237...TO THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 81 AND COUNTY ROAD 75. WITHIN THIS CORRIDOR, MANY HOUSES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED WITH LITTLE EVIDENCE THAT A HOUSE EXISTED AT THAT LOCATION OTHER THAN THE SLAB AND A DEBRIS PILE. SOME OF THESE HOUSES WERE WELL CONSTRUCTED. AT LEAST 3 CHURCHES ALONG THE PATH SUSTAINED SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. ONE CHURCH IN PHIL CAMPBELL WAS COMPLETELY DESTROYED WITH ONLY THE SLAB REMAINING. MULTIPLE MOBILE HOMES THROUGHOUT THE PATH WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED...AND THEIR MANGLED FRAMES WERE TOSSED AT LEAST 25 TO 50 YARDS. CARS WERE TOSSED AND DESTROYED THROUGHOUT THE PATH OF THE TORNADO...WITH ONE CAR WRAPPED AROUND A DEBARKED TREE IN PHIL CAMPBELL. ALL ALONG THE PATH LENGTH...THOUSANDS OF HARDWOOD AND SOFTWOOD TREES WERE SNAPPED. HUNDREDS OF TREES WERE ALSO DEBARKED AND TWISTED...AND HAD ONLY STUBS OF LARGEST BRANCHES REMAINING. EF-4 DAMAGE CONTINUED SIMILARLY NORTHEAST FROM PHIL CAMPBELL...ROUGHLY ALONG COUNTY ROADS 81 AND 82. SEVERAL HIGH VOLTAGE TVA POWER LINE TRUSSES WERE TWISTED AND TOPPLED...PARTICULARLY NEAR HIGHWAY 243. SIX CHICKEN HOUSES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED NEAR THE FRANKLIN LAWRENCE COUNTY LINE. THE SURVEY TEAM HAS NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO SURVEY DAMAGE IN LAWRENCE COUNTY WHERE THIS TORNADO CONTINUED ON ITS PATH. FURTHER DETAILS... SUCH AS TIMING OF THE TORNADO AND PATH LENGTH...WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION. INFORMATION REGARDING THIS SURVEY WILL BE PLACED ON THE INTERNET ONCE ACCESS HAS BEEN RESTORED. SURVEYED BY: CARCIONE/LATIMER I am sure there probably wanting another experts opinion in which I dont blame them. EF5 tornadoes < .1% of all tornadoes. I would do the same if I were in there position they want to make sure its right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharonA Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Huntsville - Dekalb County EF-4 so far PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HUNTSVILLE AL 1100 PM CDT THU APR 28 2011 ...PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY INFORMATION FROM DEKALB COUNTY... A PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED TODAY /THURSDAY/ BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PERSONNEL IN RESPONSE TO WIDESPREAD DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED WEDNESDAY /APRIL 27/ ACROSS WESTERN DEKALB COUNTY. INITIAL FINDINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS: * EVENT TYPE: TORNADO * EVENT DATE: 04/27/2011 * ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 170 MPH * PRELIMINARY RATING: EF-4 * PRELIMINARY PATH LENGTH: 16 MILES * MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH: 1/2 MILE * FATALITIES: AT LEAST 30...EXACT NUMBER UNKNOWN * INJURIES: UNKNOWN * SUMMARY: THE TORNADO PATH IS LIKELY TO HAVE BEGUN IN THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY NORTHEAST OF GERALDINE. THE TORNADO THEN TRACKED NORTHEASTWARD GENERALLY PARALLEL AND JUST EAST OF STATE ROUTE 75 THROUGH FYFFE...RAINSVILLE...AND SYLVANIA. DAMAGE HAS ALSO BEEN REPORTED FARTHER TO THE NORTHEAST THROUGH THE HENAGAR AND IDER AREAS...ALTHOUGH THESE LOCATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN SURVEYED YET. THUS...THIS TORNADO TRACK MAY LENGTHEN. THE SURVEY TEAM NOTICED INITIAL DAMAGE ALONG A LINE STARTING IN THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY. THE PATH WIDTH HERE WAS GENERALLY AROUND 50 YARDS AND INITIAL DAMAGE INCLUDED MOSTLY FELLED AND SNAPPED TREES AND STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO SMALL BUILDINGS. EXTENSIVE DAMAGE WAS NOTED ESPECIALLY IN THE RAINSVILLE AND SYLVANIA COMMUNITIES WHERE THE PATH WIDTH WAS ESTIMATED TO BE UP TO 1/2 MILE. DAMAGE IN RAINSVILLE INCLUDED HOUSES THAT WERE COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM FOUNDATIONS...WITH DEBRIS SCATTERED FOR ABOUT ONE MILE. NEAR THIS LOCATION...TREES WERE DEBARKED AND A FEW MOBILE HOMES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED WITH DEBRIS STREWN FOR ABOUT A MILE DOWNSTREAM. IN THE SYLVANIA COMMUNITY...A SIMILAR SITUATION OCCURRED WITH HOUSES COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM FOUNDATIONS AND DEBRIS BLOWN FAR DOWNSTREAM. SOME OF THESE HOUSES CONTAINED ANCHOR BOLTS AND FOUNDATION STRAPS. FURTHER SURVEYS WILL BE CONDUCTED ALONG POINTS BETWEEN FYFFE AND LAKEVIEW...AND EVENTUALLY BEYOND SYLVANIA...WHERE ADDITIONAL DAMAGE OCCURRED. OTHER INFORMATION ON THIS TORNADO...INCLUDING PATH WIDTH AND LENGTH IS STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE. THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HUNTSVILLE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OF DEKALB COUNTY...AND OTHER CITIZENS WHO VOLUNTEERED INFORMATION TO HELP IN CONDUCTING THIS STORM SURVEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Geez, from the sounds of that, the Rainsville tornado could be a potential EF5 upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Another high-end EF4 0829 PM TORNADO 4 SE COLLEGEDALE 35.00N 85.00W 04/27/2011 HAMILTON TN NWS EMPLOYEE EF4. MAX WIND SPEED 190 MPH. PATH WIDTH 800 YARDS. PATH LENGTH 15 MILES. CONTINUOUS NORTHEAST TRACK LEADING INTO EASTERN PORTIONS OF CLEVELAND. Probably part of same track as Ringgold. PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN 1045 PM EDT THU APR 28 2011 ...EF-4 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN HAMILTON...BRADLEY...AND POLK COUNTIES OF SOUTHEAST TENNESSEE... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MORRISTOWN HAS COMPLETED AN ASSESSMENT OF THE STORM DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED IN HAMILTON...BRADLEY...AND POLK COUNTIES. THE TORNADO REACHED AN INTENSITY OF A STRONG EF4 IN SOUTHEAST HAMILTON COUNTY WITH A MAXIMUM WIND SPEED OF 190 MPH. THE TORNADO COMPLETELY LEVELED SEVERAL HOMES IN HAMILTON COUNTY...AND PRODUCED EXTENSIVE DAMAGE IN BRADLEY COUNTY BEFORE DISSIPATING IN POLK COUNTY. 150 HOMES WERE ESTIMATED TO HAVE DAMAGE IN HAMILTON...AND BRADLEY COUNTIES...WITH NUMEROUS TREES DOWN IN POLK. THE PATH WIDTH OF THIS TORNADO WAS 800 YARDS OR ROUGHLY ONE HALF OF A MILE. THE TOTAL LENGTH OF ITS TRACK WAS 35 MILES. PRELIMINARY REPORTS INDICATE 13 FATALITIES...8 IN HAMILTON COUNTY...AND 5 IN BRADLEY COUNTY. STORM SURVEY COMPLETED BY: TIM TROUTMAN...WARNING COORDINATION METEOROLOGIST...AND METEOROLOGIST ERIC HOLWEG. $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslkahuna Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 If I recall correctly, the determination of an EF-5 rating for any tornado is made by a special survey team from NOAA which includes people experienced in determining how well constructed a structure was. In the case of the Moore OK tornado of 1999, this survey team included Tim Marshall. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 If I recall correctly, the determination of an EF-5 rating for any tornado is made by a special survey team from NOAA which includes people experienced in determining how well constructed a structure was. In the case of the Moore OK tornado of 1999, this survey team included Tim Marshall. Steve This is true...EF4s and EF5s are determined by regional rapid response teams. It's not really that they are more qualified to make the determination, but they can more readily work with higher ups in fed relief agencies like FEMA and state governments, etc. This is why you'll sometimes see EF3s get upgraded after preliminary reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN 1045 PM EDT THU APR 28 2011 ...EF-4 TORNADO CONFIRMED IN HAMILTON...BRADLEY...AND POLK COUNTIES OF SOUTHEAST TENNESSEE... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MORRISTOWN HAS COMPLETED AN ASSESSMENT OF THE STORM DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED IN HAMILTON...BRADLEY...AND POLK COUNTIES. THE TORNADO REACHED AN INTENSITY OF A STRONG EF4 IN SOUTHEAST HAMILTON COUNTY WITH A MAXIMUM WIND SPEED OF 190 MPH. THE TORNADO COMPLETELY LEVELED SEVERAL HOMES IN HAMILTON COUNTY...AND PRODUCED EXTENSIVE DAMAGE IN BRADLEY COUNTY BEFORE DISSIPATING IN POLK COUNTY. 150 HOMES WERE ESTIMATED TO HAVE DAMAGE IN HAMILTON...AND BRADLEY COUNTIES...WITH NUMEROUS TREES DOWN IN POLK. THE PATH WIDTH OF THIS TORNADO WAS 800 YARDS OR ROUGHLY ONE HALF OF A MILE. THE TOTAL LENGTH OF ITS TRACK WAS 35 MILES. PRELIMINARY REPORTS INDICATE 13 FATALITIES...8 IN HAMILTON COUNTY...AND 5 IN BRADLEY COUNTY. STORM SURVEY COMPLETED BY: TIM TROUTMAN...WARNING COORDINATION METEOROLOGIST...AND METEOROLOGIST ERIC HOLWEG. $$ I believe this is the Cleveland, TN tornado? I really curious as to the exact track of this one. My friends sister goes to school at Lee University in downtown Cleveland and her and her friends shot a video, I'm not sure what time and where it was exactly but they were in a car but by the looks of it, they were in the forward flank hail core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 000 NOUS44 KBMX 290456 RRA PNSBMX ALZ011>015-017>050-291800- PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BIRMINGHAM AL 1155 PM CDT THU APR 28 2011 ...UPDATED FOR MARION AND WINSTON COUNTY TORNADOES... ...EVENT OVERVIEW... THERE WERE TWO WAVES OF WIDESPREAD SEVERE WEATHER. THE FIRST MOVED THROUGH DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS ACROSS NORTHERN PORTIONS OF CENTRAL ALABAMA PRODUCING WIDESPREAD DAMAGING STRAIGHT LINE WINDS AND ISOLATED TORNADOES. THE SECOND WAVE INVOLVED NUMEROUS SUPERCELL THUNDERSTORMS AND PRODUCED LONG LIVED...STRONG TO VIOLENT TORNADOES ACROSS THE NORTHERN TWO-THIRDS OF CENTRAL ALABAMA...WITH WIDESPREAD AND CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS. AT THIS TIME ALL RATINGS ARE PRELIMINARY. TORNADO 1...SHOTSVILLE TORNADO (MARION COUNTY)... PRELIMINARY DATA... EVENT DATE: APRIL 27, 2011 EVENT TYPE: EF-3 TORNADO OR POTENTIALLY HIGHER ESTIMATED PEAK WINDS (MPH): AROUND 140 INJURIES/FATALITIES: AT LEAST 6 FATALITIES. EVENT START LOCATION AND TIME: 34.2869/-88.1529 AT 357 PM EVENT END LOCATION AND TIME: 34.1208/-87.7437 AT 420 PM DAMAGE PATH LENGTH (IN MILES): 19.1 MILES (CONTINUED INTO HUN WFO) DAMAGE WIDTH (IN YARDS): 3/4 MILE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS SURVEYED ACROSS MARION COUNTY IMPACTING SHOTSVILLE. IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE DAMAGE WAS CONSISTENT WITH A TORNADO. WINDS WERE ESTIMATED AT LEAST 140 MPH. THE TORNADO POSSIBLY BEGAN IN MISSISSIPPI AND WILL NEED TO COORDINATE WITH MEMPHIS WFO TO SEE IF THE PATH DID BEGIN FURTHER WEST. ALONG THE PATH...HUNDREDS OF TREES WERE DOWNED...25 STRUCTURES WERE DAMAGED. FIVE OF THESE STRUCTURES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED. THIS TORNADO DAMAGE PATH CONTINUED INTO FRANKLIN COUNTY. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER EVALUATION DONE ON THE WORST DAMAGE POINTS ON FRIDAY TO DETERMINE IF THE RATING NEEDS TO BE INCREASED. TORNADO 2...HACKLEBURG TORNADO (MARION COUNTY)... PRELIMINARY DATA... EVENT DATE: APRIL 27, 2011 EVENT TYPE: EF-3 TORNADO OR POTENTIALLY HIGHER (FURTHER EVALUATION IS NEEDED) ESTIMATED PEAK WINDS (MPH): AT LEAST 140 INJURIES/FATALITIES: AT LEAST 25 FATALITIES. EVENT START LOCATION AND TIME: 34.0433/-87.8225 AT 305 PM EVENT END LOCATION AND TIME: 34.0739/-87.7219 AT 402 PM DAMAGE PATH LENGTH (IN MILES): 25.2 MILES (CONTINUED INTO HUN WFO) DAMAGE WIDTH (IN YARDS): 3/4 MILE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS SURVEYED ACROSS MARION COUNTY IMPACTING HACKLEBURG. IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE DAMAGE WAS CONSISTENT WITH A LARGE TORNADO. WINDS WERE ESTIMATED AT LEAST 140 MPH. ALONG THE PATH...HUNDREDS OF TREES WERE DOWNED...200 STRUCTURES WERE DAMAGED. 100 OF THESE STRUCTURES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED. THIS TORNADO DAMAGE PATH CONTINUED INTO FRANKLIN COUNTY. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER EVALUATION DONE ON THE WORST DAMAGE POINTS ON FRIDAY TO DETERMINE IF THE RATING NEEDS TO BE INCREASED. TORNADO 3...HALEYVILLE (MARION/WINSTON COUNTIES)... PRELIMINARY DATA... EVENT DATE: APRIL 27, 2011 EVENT TYPE: EF-3 ESTIMATED PEAK WINDS (MPH): AROUND 140 INJURIES/FATALITIES: 10 INJURIES. EVENT START LOCATION AND TIME: 34.1065/-87.7906 AT 510 PM EVENT END LOCATION AND TIME: 34.3050/-87.4976 AT 551 PM DAMAGE PATH LENGTH (IN MILES): 12.75 MILES (CONTINUED INTO HUN WFO) DAMAGE WIDTH (IN YARDS): 1/2 MILE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS SURVEYED ACROSS MARION AND WINSTON COUNTIES. IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE DAMAGE WAS CONSISTENT WITH A TORNADO. WINDS WERE ESTIMATED TO BE AROUND 140 MPH. ALONG THE PATH...HUNDREDS OF TREES WERE DOWNED...AT LEAST 45 STRUCTURES WERE DAMAGED. AT LEAST 18 OF THESE STRUCTURES WERE COMPLETELY DESTROYED. THIS TORNADO DAMAGE PATH POSSIBLY CONTINUED INTO LAWRENCE COUNTY. ...ADDITIONAL INFORMATION... SURVEYS WILL CONDUCTED ONCE AGAIN ON FRIDAY AS WELL SATURDAY. THE ENTIRE PROCESS MAY TAKE UPWARDS OF TWO WEEKS. ANOTHER PLAN OF THE DAY WILL ISSUED EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. MEDIA INQUIRIES CAN BE DIRECTED TOWARD WARNING COORDINATION METEOROLOGIST JOHN DE BLOCK AT 205-664-3010...OR METEOROLOGIST IN CHARGE JIM STEFKOVICH AT 205-585-8635. A MAJOR CONTRIBUTION TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR SEVERE WEATHER WARNING PROGRAM IS THE RECEIPT OF STORM REPORTS FROM ALL OUR CUSTOMERS AND PARTNERS ACROSS CENTRAL ALABAMA. IF YOU WITNESSED OR ARE AWARE OF ANY STORM DAMAGE DUE TO HIGH WINDS OR TORNADOES...PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE...OR CALL OUR STORM REPORTING HOTLINE AT 1-800-856-0758. $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Tim Marshall is on his way out to Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtRosen Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 THE SURVEY TEAM NOTICED INITIAL DAMAGE ALONG A LINE STARTING IN THE LAKEVIEW COMMUNITY. THE PATH WIDTH HERE WAS GENERALLY AROUND 50 YARDS AND INITIAL DAMAGE INCLUDED MOSTLY FELLED AND SNAPPED TREES AND STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO SMALL BUILDINGS. EXTENSIVE DAMAGE WAS NOTED ESPECIALLY IN THE RAINSVILLE AND SYLVANIA COMMUNITIES WHERE THE PATH WIDTH WAS ESTIMATED TO BE UP TO 1/2 MILE. DAMAGE IN RAINSVILLE INCLUDED HOUSES THAT WERE COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM FOUNDATIONS...WITH DEBRIS SCATTERED FOR ABOUT ONE MILE. NEAR THIS LOCATION...TREES WERE DEBARKED AND That sounds like an EF-5 to me if I ever heard one. Even so, EF-4 or EF-5... doesn't matter, the number of fatalities from this tornado outbreak is just beyond anything I've ever imagined in this modern day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaPilot Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Got a chance to take a look at the Tornado damage just south of Brooks GA today. Took some pictures from my plane. Apologize for the light level and focus, was shooting through my window and it was getting close to sunset. My map is rough....but I think the track is pretty close. This was only a few miles south of where I live and took only a few minutes to get to by air. I'd estimate the width of damage at about a 1/4-1/2 mile in some places. My estimate of this one would be that it looks to be an EF-2 and possibly slightly stronger. Some significant damage to some homes in the path..one or two completely obliterated. Most homes near the path had at least the entire second floor destroyed or moved completely OFF the first floor. significant percentage of large Oaks in the path completely flattened. Saw a few cars tossed also. The link brings you to a slide show with a map....track was almost 20 miles on the ground that I could tell, we might have missed just a bit up by Hampton, GA. Red arrow is my educated guess at the likley path and direction of the Tornado in the photos. http://s1085.photobu...mview=slideshow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaPilot Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Ok, just saw summary earlier in the thread and the Tornado damage I captured was the EF-3 through Meriweather County, GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 One thing I find interesting is everyone keeps saying "nowadays a death toll like this is basically impossible". At the end of the day though the fact of the matter is it seems just as likely because despite our numerous advances in technology there is really nothing to be done about an EF-3 or greater really. I mean what saved people in my town last year from an EF4 was a basement and I don't believe many people have one in bama because of the high water table. What else could you do really to protect yourself except get in an interior room and hope to god you make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 One thing I find interesting is everyone keeps saying "nowadays a death toll like this is basically impossible". At the end of the day though the fact of the matter is it seems just as likely because despite our numerous advances in technology there is really nothing to be done about an EF-3 or greater really. I mean what saved people in my town last year from an EF4 was a basement and I don't believe many people have one in bama because of the high water table. What else could you do really to protect yourself except get in an interior room and hope to god you make it? 1. Community Shelter or Personal Shelter (safe room) 2. Flee the path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 One thing I find interesting is everyone keeps saying "nowadays a death toll like this is basically impossible". At the end of the day though the fact of the matter is it seems just as likely because despite our numerous advances in technology there is really nothing to be done about an EF-3 or greater really. I mean what saved people in my town last year from an EF4 was a basement and I don't believe many people have one in bama because of the high water table. What else could you do really to protect yourself except get in an interior room and hope to god you make it? Seems like support for another round of VORTEX missions to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Weather Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 ..PRELIMINARY RARE EF-5 TORNADO IN MONROE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI AFTER A REVIEW OF THE DAMAGE PHOTOS TAKEN DURING THURSDAY/S GROUND SURVEY AND CONSULTATION WITH NATIONAL EXPERTS...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MEMPHIS HAS UPGRADED THE SMITHVILLE TORNADO RATING TO EF-5 DAMAGE. THIS IS THE HIGHEST RATING FOR TORNADO DAMAGE AND THE FIRST EF-5 OR F-5 IN MISSISSIPPI SINCE THE CANDLESTICK PARK TORNADO NEAR JACKSON ON MARCH 3RD 1966. * COUNTY/COUNTIES: MONROE * LOCATION/TIME OF EVENT: SMITHVILLE AT 344 PM EDT * BEGINNING POINT: 34.0517, -88.4236 * ENDING POINT: 34.0731, -88.3814 * RATING: EF-5 * ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 205 MPH * PATH LENGTH: 2.82 MILES * MAXIMUM WIDTH: 1/2 MILE * FATALITIES: 14 * INJURIES: 40 * SUMMARY OF DAMAGES: 18 HOMES DESTROYED...2 BUSINESSES /POST OFFICE AND POLICE STATION/ DESTROYED...8 HOMES WITH MAJOR DAMAGE...7 BUSINESSES WITH MAJOR DAMAGE...44 HOMES WITH MINOR DAMAGE...AND WATER SYSTEM DESTROYED. MOST TREES EITHER SNAPPED OR TWISTED AND DEBARKED. MOST THE HOMES DESTROYED WERE WELL BUILT...TWO STORIES...LESS THAN TEN YEARS OLD AND BOLTED DOWN TO THEIR FOUNDATIONS. AN 1965 CHEVY PICKUP TRUCK PARKED IN FRONT ONE OF THE DESTROYED HOMES HAS NOT BEEN FOUND. ALL APPLIANCES AND PLUMBING FIXTURES IN THE MOST EXTREME DAMAGE PATH SHREDDED OR MISSING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 So we got one and possibly two or three other EF5 tornadoes, jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack123 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I was actually agreeing with the original high-end EF4 rating. Talk about a short-lived EF5. It looks like it bombed Smithfield quickly and lifted. The damage looks eerily similar to Parkersburg, Iowa from aerials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack123 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 So we got one and possibly two or three other EF5 tornadoes, jesus. "The Finger Of God." Talk about a tornado practically blow torching the ground, sweeping well-built brick homes clean off their foundations, and ripping trees of all their bark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Seems like support for another round of VORTEX missions to me. Vortex seems like an excellent idea, but because of the logistics, speed of storms, and terrain, they chase later in the season and in the Plains, and I don't know how much data would carry over to Dixie Alley tornadoes. I was noting in the Central forum thread, unlike most Dixie Alley tornadoes, the big Tuscaloosa one wasn't rain wrapped. It also seemed like the density of tornadic supercells, how many tor-warned cells were occuring simulataneously in a fairly small area, seemed higher than Plains outbreaks. I just don't know if higher based and slower moving Plains supercells in mid May compares apples to apples to rapidly moving April cells located much closer to the GOMEX moisture source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUWX23 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Has anyone seen or made a storm reports map of the complete outbreak starting from Monday I guess going through yesterday. That would be quite interesting to see all the reports for the 4 day outbreak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I was actually agreeing with the original high-end EF4 rating. Talk about a short-lived EF5. It looks like it bombed Smithfield quickly and lifted. The damage looks eerily similar to Parkersburg, Iowa from aerials. I posted the aerial, we've seen the damage... Smithville deserved the EF5 for sure. The damage from Hackleburg looks almost EF5-ish as well from the aerials (if the homes were well bolted, then for sure... I've never seen such a high concentration of cleaned slabs since Jarrell). No doubt the "panel of experts" will be working their butts off today in multiple locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFanatica Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 This might sound funny coming from someone that worked on V2 both years, but I'm not all that optimistic that V2 or even a V3 would change anything that went on here all that much. Let's say we know exactly how tornadoes form. Ok, what's changed really? Maybe an extra few minutes lead time on warnings (but probably not since the main observing tool only samples a location every 300 sec)? I don't think warning time was the problem here. Even if you know everything there is to know about tornadoes, they're still chaotic and they still are being affected by small spatial and temporal scale changes in the environment that aren't going to be observed, even if you had a national mesonet. Everyone wants answers when something like this happens, which I totally get, but there's no easy answers here and very little guarantee that this won't happen again in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 This might sound funny coming from someone that worked on V2 both years, but I'm not all that optimistic that V2 or even a V3 would change anything that went on here all that much. Let's say we know exactly how tornadoes form. Ok, what's changed really? Maybe an extra few minutes lead time on warnings (but probably not since the main observing tool only samples a location every 300 sec)? I don't think warning time was the problem here. Even if you know everything there is to know about tornadoes, they're still chaotic and they still are being affected by small spatial and temporal scale changes in the environment that aren't going to be observed, even if you had a national mesonet. Everyone wants answers when something like this happens, which I totally get, but there's no easy answers here and very little guarantee that this won't happen again in the future. I think this is absolutely true, we're about maxed out with lead time given our current technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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