OKpowdah Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Each storm last winter had its highlights, and for the most part, all over-performed. I personally really enjoyed the Jan 26-27 storm, even though I was on the edge and only got 4". I did a case study on the synoptic set-up and mesoscale banding. Incredible dynamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Each storm last winter had its highlights, and for the most part, all over-performed. I personally really enjoyed the Jan 26-27 storm, even though I was on the edge and only got 4". I did a case study on the synoptic set-up and mesoscale banding. Incredible dynamics That was a dynamic bomb. Upper level low monstah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 And while we like to discuss the big storms, what really makes a good winter is the small snowfalls... the refreshers. The week-long snow events with 3-4" per day, with a few hours of sun mixed in with a few hours of moderate to heavy snow as the next vort max swings through. Last winter had the perfect mix of big storms and daily sub-advisory 3-5 inch snowfalls. With all the heat talk in the other threads, think back to the days where the streetlights are on at 2pm in the afternoon as a curtain of snowfall continues to fall lightly but steadily... cars in various states of burial depending on how many days they've been parked in one location. I can't wait to get back into that daily snow-globe type snow. Another vort max moving across the mountains creating those classic squalls of SN+... where a beautiful day can turn into a 3-hour NW flow blizzard and then the sun comes back out. But of course, as weenies, we all do love the big storms. For SNE it was January 11-12 but for NNE it was the March 7 monster that dropped over 2" of QPF and 27" in under 24 hours here. Man, how long do we have to wait for it to snow again?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 And while we like to discuss the big storms, what really makes a good winter is the small snowfalls... the refreshers. The week-long snow events with 3-4" per day, with a few hours of sun mixed in with a few hours of moderate to heavy snow as the next vort max swings through. Last winter had the perfect mix of big storms and daily sub-advisory 3-5 inch snowfalls. With all the heat talk in the other threads, think back to the days where the streetlights are on at 2pm in the afternoon as a curtain of snowfall continues to fall lightly but steadily... cars in various states of burial depending on how many days they've been parked in one location. I can't wait to get back into that daily snow-globe type snow. Another vort max moving across the mountains creating those classic squalls of SN+... where a beautiful day can turn into a 3-hour NW flow blizzard and then the sun comes back out. But of course, as weenies, we all do love the big storms. For SNE it was January 11-12 but for NNE it was the March 7 monster that dropped over 2" of QPF and 27" in under 24 hours here. Man, how long do we have to wait for it to snow again?! I'll always remember that day in late January where you reported 30" at 3,000 feet and I had 32" at 450' in central mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Mid July Cryosphere and sea ice has absolutely nothing to do with anything.....it can change so quickly that it's irrelevant in mid summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Man, how long do we have to wait for it to snow again?! For you, most likely not as long as most of us down here. May through August - Months I can do without. I do dispise oppressive heat. and high dews. BTW, I loved the photos you posted throughout the season this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I'll always remember that day in late January where you reported 30" at 3,000 feet and I had 32" at 450' in central mass. Haha yep... I remember the picture you posted, too... looking across the street at your neighbors house with the snow half-way up the windows. That was one helluva month down there. In January when we only had 15-18" of snow on the ground in town we were getting folks up here on vacation from CT wondering where all the snow was because they had 3 feet in their front yard. Weenies understand it, but the general public doesn't quite get the fact that there isn't *always* more snow in ski country, haha. The averages will work out better up here, especially later in the season, but its not the case when parts of CT are getting 70" of snow in a month, lol. Also, in 2009-2010 parts of the Baltimore suburbs had more snow on the ground than the upper elevations of the northern Greens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Winters have been a 6 week sprint around here. Lets stretch this out, next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Winters have been a 6 week sprint around here. Lets stretch this out, next year. You HATE that....you have a real protracted winter fetish. Embrace that last snowfall the 1st week of March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 You HATE that....you have a real protracted winter fetish. Embrace that last snowfall the 1st week of March. I didn't really get anything in March. I hate having February and March barren with little snow. The ground is brown, it's cold, and everything is dead. This year we at least had the Feb 2nd storm and snow on the ground into March, but it gets annoying having it end so early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I didn't really get anything in March. I hate having February and March barren with little snow. The ground is brown, it's cold, and everything is dead. This year we at least had the Feb 2nd storm and snow on the ground into March, but it gets annoying having it end so early. 45*, ptly sunny and windy isn't so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I didn't really get anything in March. I hate having February and March barren with little snow. The ground is brown, it's cold, and everything is dead. This year we at least had the Feb 2nd storm and snow on the ground into March, but it gets annoying having it end so early. move to West Chesterfield. the land of flurries in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 45*, ptly sunny and windy isn't so bad. February especially is normally a good winter month. I guess I just view it as wasted opportunity. I personally find the combo of brown ground, no storms, and winter cold...depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I like a good February and March, and would appreciate it even more after the dearth of late season snow the last few winters. However, I treasure December and January snow the most. December for the holidays, and January because it's the middle of winter and a green torch is a huge slap in the face. I can take it a little better by March. A perfect and still realistic winter IMO would have a snowy December, followed by a dry and very cold January, a snowy first half of February followed by a thaw, then a couple big wet snow bombs in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I like a good February and March, and would appreciate it even more after the dearth of late season snow the last few winters. However, I treasure December and January snow the most. December for the holidays, and January because it's the middle of winter and a green torch is a huge slap in the face. I can take it a little better by March. A perfect and still realistic winter IMO would have a snowy December, followed by a dry and very cold January, a snowy first half of February followed by a thaw, then a couple big wet snow bombs in March. I have developed a new liking for December now. Low sun and limited sunlight make it extra special for snowpack. AI guess I would just like to have it more spread out, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Winters have been a 6 week sprint around here. Lets stretch this out, next year. Agree 100%. I would take a season full of lighter snow falls from November to the end of March, and sacrifice the monster storm or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Agree 100%. I would take a season full of lighter snow falls from November to the end of March, and sacrifice the monster storm or 2. I don't want to give those up...but perhaps stretch it out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I don't want to give those up...but perhaps give mine a tug and stretch it out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Agree 100%. I would take a season full of lighter snow falls from November to the end of March, and sacrifice the monster storm or 2. Absolutely not. You need at least one monster to make the winter. Advisory snows get old after a while. You need a good mix of both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 After all these thoughts though, beggars can't be choosers ... and I'm pretty sure we stretch the limit of the definition of "beggar" when it comes to snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 The one thing I would love to see is a true long duration snow storm. I want a storm that starts Sunday night, rages all day Monday, through Monday night, and people wake up to 2 feet on the ground Tuesday morning with steady light snow still falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 The one thing I would love to see is a true long duration snow storm. I want a storm that starts Sunday night, rages all day Monday, through Monday night, and people wake up to 2 feet on the ground Tuesday morning with steady light snow still falling. That's why I loved 12/19-12/21, 2008. We had the snow on the 19th, another 3-5" on the 20th (some areas more), another 2" prior to 5am on the 21st....then that snow event during the day of the 21st. Even though I changed to rain...that period rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 That's why I loved 12/19-12/21, 2008. We had the snow on the 19th, another 3-5" on the 20th (some areas more), another 2" prior to 5am on the 21st....then that snow event during the day of the 21st. Even though I changed to rain...that period rocked. That weekend was pretty cool, though both storms under-performed in Keene, which made it a little disappointing. The best lift with the overrunning Friday afternoon was to my south, and then Sunday's storm was weaker and further east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 February 1st-2nd this year was supposed to be good, with the moderate overrunning on the 1st followed by a relocation of Gulf of Mexico moisture into New England on the 2nd. I was one of the weenies blinded by the model QPF with that storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 But of course, as weenies, we all do love the big storms. For SNE it was January 11-12 but for NNE it was the March 7 monster that dropped over 2" of QPF and 27" in under 24 hours here. Man, how long do we have to wait for it to snow again?! Um, "parts" of NNE? I got 2" of IP with just enough ZR mixed in to make roads nearly undrivable and knock off the power for a while. Of course, Eustis (40 mi NW and about 870' higher) got 19", so it was close. The one memorable storm IMBY was 4/1, with 15" including 5.5" 10-12 AM. (12/27 and 1/12 were also memorable, but that was because both times I was driving in AUG, which got hit much harder than at my place. My total snowfall from 12/27, 1/12, and 1/26-27 was 15.3", the last being a clean whiff.) The comment about Bal/Wash having more snow OG in 2/10 than in the NNE ski country reminds me that, as Feb began this year, CAR had less snow on the ground than anywhere else in New England except the outer Cape and Islands. +1,000 on the last sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 The one thing I would love to see is a true long duration snow storm. I want a storm that starts Sunday night, rages all day Monday, through Monday night, and people wake up to 2 feet on the ground Tuesday morning with steady light snow still falling. What year was the storm in December that started on Friday and ended Sunday? I think it was in the first 3rd of the month. That was an awesome storm. The Patriots played Miami that Sunday afternoon, and the cameras kept showing footage of the crowd shoveling off the seats early on. It must have been early to mid 2000's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 What year was the storm in December that started on Friday and ended Sunday? I think it was in the first 3rd of the month. That was an awesome storm. The Patriots played Miami that Sunday afternoon, and the cameras kept showing footage of the crowd shoveling off the seats early on. It must have been early to mid 2000's. Probably thinking of December 5-7, 2003. That was an excellent storm for sure. It was my last 20+" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Probably thinking of December 5-7, 2003. That was an excellent storm for sure. It was my last 20+" That storm was also the last that I would consider a true widespread event for New England ... before last winter ... January 12 certainly qualified there too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 That storm was also the last that I would consider a true widespread event for New England ... before last winter ... January 12 certainly qualified there too 12/03 got all of New England all the way to northern Aroostook. 1/12/11 didn't get much beyond BGR with serious snow. (Not much of an objection to your comment, though.) I also favor 12/03 because of what fell IMBY - of course! 24" in that storm, 7.3" Jan. 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Um, "parts" of NNE? I got 2" of IP with just enough ZR mixed in to make roads nearly undrivable and knock off the power for a while. Of course, Eustis (40 mi NW and about 870' higher) got 19", so it was close. The one memorable storm IMBY was 4/1, with 15" including 5.5" 10-12 AM. (12/27 and 1/12 were also memorable, but that was because both times I was driving in AUG, which got hit much harder than at my place. My total snowfall from 12/27, 1/12, and 1/26-27 was 15.3", the last being a clean whiff.) The comment about Bal/Wash having more snow OG in 2/10 than in the NNE ski country reminds me that, as Feb began this year, CAR had less snow on the ground than anywhere else in New England except the outer Cape and Islands. +1,000 on the last sentence. Very true... more like NW NNE. On the flip side, we got skunked on 4/1 with only about 4-6" when we were forecast for a foot or more. That one went east at the very last moment though we were always modeled to be on the edge of the heavy QPF. I think that was the only storm of the season I was disappointed with; mostly because it was late in the season and was our last shot at a "big" above-advisory snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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